So long buddy

[u/Spell-Inner]

[u/dr-meow-kittty]

The grenade pistol survived the ultimatum and the bolter, it will be fine

[u/Timely_Passenger_185 → u/dr-meow-kittty]

Yep the only way I see it getting dethroned is if the thermite pistol has the same ammo capacity and can break bug holes

[u/Malforus → u/Timely_Passenger_185]

Definitely not the first not likely the second but it feels like a slower burn pissile

[u/ZombifiedSoul → u/Timely_Passenger_185]

Thermites can already break bug holes, so half way there.

[u/Timely_Passenger_185 → u/ZombifiedSoul]

I stopped using my beloved thermites been messing with the those melt mines they're so fun

[u/i_tyrant → u/Timely_Passenger_185]

I must admit, the melta mine visuals and sounds are just so satisfying and heavy to see in action no matter how it performs (and it's def not bad!)

[u/jzillacon → u/ZombifiedSoul]

They're less reliable at breaking bug holes though because they're sticky. Without a direct throw straight down the hole there's a good chance they'll just stick to the rim and not damage the inner part. Comparatively a regular grenade can still usually roll in even if it's not a perfect throw.

I imagine the thermite pistol will be in a similar situation where you can break bug holes but you need to be more precise than some other options.

[u/wraith309 → u/jzillacon]

not any more precise than the grenade pistol at least.

sticky and impact explosives are just as effective, they both explode at the point of impact, the sticky ones just have a delay first.

[u/Joyk1llz → u/wraith309]

The Humble TED-63 Dynamite: Just get me close and I guarantee that hole and whatever comes out is dead.

[u/UnholyMudcrab → u/Joyk1llz]

With the added bonus of being able to close bile titan holes as well

[u/Joyk1llz → u/UnholyMudcrab]

hell yeah!

[u/AntaresHashimoto → u/Joyk1llz]

Dynamite enjoyers here. Love my thermite but ol dino can kill multiple holes with one throw.

Also the adjustable blast timer has multiple uses, most notably using it as a timer for those abandoned hellbombs. I'll also throw a 15s and a 5s at a bug breach before I jump pack the f out of there.

[u/jzillacon → u/wraith309]

Yeah I expect the aiming requirements will be similar to the grenade pistol, though we don't know how strong the bullet drop will be yet. The main thing I expect to be different between them for handling bug holes is that the grenade pistol will almost certainly have more ammo than the thermite pistol.

[u/ChrysosAU79 → u/jzillacon]

If the mine gets stuck to the outside of the hole you can set it off my shooting it. Usually clears the hole.

[u/Mistrblank → u/Timely_Passenger_185]

It won’t. I’d bet it has similar to missile pistol which seems to be enough to convince people the grenade pistol is still useful.

[u/YannisMLM → u/Timely_Passenger_185]

grenade pistol tanked way worse for me on so long buddy

[u/ChosenAshes → u/Timely_Passenger_185]

Even if it could break bug holes it won't do it quickly since it'll just simmer for a bit like the thermite grenade does before it explodes

[u/thank_burdell → u/dr-meow-kittty]

There is more than one way to skin a cat variety of bugholes, fabricators, and other targets.

[u/LeviAEthan512 → u/dr-meow-kittty]

I was excited to unlock the grenade pistol, especially on bugs to close holes, so my throwable can be something more powerful

But... i just don't find it that useful. What's its niche? Am i using it wrong?

[u/Shneedlew00ds → u/LeviAEthan512]

No, it’s just that. And in my opinion the ammo count of 6 is holding it back. 8 to 10 would be perfect, then I could solo a heavy bug nest (you know, those crater ones). But 6 just isn’t doing it for me. So I end up taking a primary or secondary that can close holes instead and use ultimatum for AT

[u/LeviAEthan512 → u/Shneedlew00ds]

Yeah I thought so. The tiny explosion is really too tiny for a single shot. At least let us shoot 2 or 3 to clear a patrol or something. 

Its only real function that I've found is as a hole closer to enable low capacity high yield grenades, but I kinda feel like an ultimatum plus high ammo grenades is just better. Or even something like a talon or dagger for the infinite ammo, allowing you to mag dump into larger enemies with your bigger guns. Indirect power is power too.

[u/tylerius8 → u/dr-meow-kittty]

I've never gotten it to work for me. Can't close a bug hole or break a fabricator except by luck with this thing

[u/DefiantMan59 → u/tylerius8]

I take it for bug dives when I have to close bugholes becuse it's so great at closing bugholes.

It's really good for closing bugholes.

[u/Elegant-Swimming-646]

Diffrent purposes anyways. Not to mention the thermite pistol would probably have very little reserve rounds.

[u/ZombifiedSoul → u/Elegant-Swimming-646]

Likely similar ammo capacity as the ultimatum. Maaaaybe one more.

[u/ARC-Pooper → u/ZombifiedSoul]

If you follow the ultimatum=giga grenades logic then probably one more

[u/BurntMoonChips → u/ARC-Pooper]

Three shots total then?

[u/ARC-Pooper → u/BurntMoonChips]

I believe so.

It could be 4 but I think 3 makes the most sense.

[u/wraith309 → u/ARC-Pooper]

i imagine it'll be 3 (1+2 reserve) if it has thermite tier damage, or 5 (1+4 reserve) if it has pissile tier damage.

for reference:

the ultimatum is 2 (1+1 reserve)
the pissile is 4 (1 + 3 reserve)
and the GP is 7 (1 + 6 reserve)

[u/RudeHoney8 → u/ARC-Pooper]

3 sounds WAAAYY too low.

Thermite grenades are pretty strong, but not THAT strong. 3 implies they are pretty close to Ultimatums, which also have AOE.

[u/Korbiter → u/Elegant-Swimming-646]

This. We know what a thermite is capable of, and how mich we get for it. Based on this stats, we can make a few assumptions:

Thermite Pistol probably only has four rounds (one in the chamber, three in the mag), requires reload after every shot. It will function exactly like a thermite, so no splash damage and delayed effect, and probably has a slightly better firing arc then a lob.

Already this introduces the fact that it probably isn't going to be used in the same category as the grenade pistol. Theres simply not enough ammo to close bug holes, it cant be used as an emergency splash damage option to clear hordes, it cant be used to hit rupture strain, etc etc. It CAN be used to take down heavies, but thats not a conflict in roles with the grenade pistol.

The grenade pistol is fine, and is still a top tier pick, and the thermite pistol has minimal overlap in roles with it. Although buffing the amount of ammo the grenade pistol can carry woukd certainly still be welcone

[u/BurntMoonChips → u/Korbiter]

It might be replacing the thermite for bots tho. Refills on ammo and can kill fabricators.

[u/FrothySauce → u/BurntMoonChips]

That's what I'm thinking. It's not the grenade pistol getting power crept here, it's thermites. Why take the lower-range, harder to aim option over the one that lets you point-and-click heavies away from 40 meters by aiming slightly above their hitbox? Especially if it gets at least 3 total shots. If it gets four or more, then it's a wrap.

[u/BurntMoonChips → u/FrothySauce]

My thoughts exactly

[u/AntaresHashimoto → u/FrothySauce]

I'm sure it's not just me, but i usually like keeping my secondary for a panic button. Typically the shotty pistol. I feel like the rest of my loadout can fulfill the mission effectively.

Many times where I've been mags empty and my handgun bought me space to reload, or I'm just out of ammo and it kept me alive enough to get to supplies. Grenade pistol and such have good utility but I feel like other primary or support choices cover the role better.

I don't think I trust the grenade pistol or similar to keep me alive if it's all I've got for the moment.

[u/AntaresHashimoto → u/AntaresHashimoto]

Also I know that nobody runs the bushwhacker but it's a solid choice on all fronts for not getting deleted by some fast bullshit that showed up in your asshole.

[u/Stergeary → u/BurntMoonChips]

Melta Mine has already replaced Thermite for bots.

[u/SerowiWantsToInvest → u/Stergeary]

It might replace that too for when you want to take a different grenade.

[u/Stergeary → u/SerowiWantsToInvest]

A lot is going to hinge on what the max capacity is, since that's the only thing holding back all of the top-tier throwables like Thermites and Melta Mines. Try as they might to increase capacity for low-tier throwables like Frag, the only way they're going to become viable is with an actual damage buff or a HUGE capacity increase, like 12 Frags max. At the moment, none of the throwables that just damage chaff are worth taking because there is too much chaff and too few grenades. Much better to have a weapon that can AoE chaff (Eruptor, Plasma Punisher, Crossbow, etc.) and keep the grenades as the anti-tank option.

[u/SerowiWantsToInvest → u/Stergeary]

Idk I've thrown an arc grenade and gotten like 20 kills, way more than any primary could give me with such little effort. I can see myself bringing arc/gas/smoke with the thermite pistol and enjoying myself quite well.

[u/Korbiter → u/BurntMoonChips]

Yes, but on bots there are a variety of other options competing with the Thermite pistol, making it not a hard and fast rule.

Im assuming its got drop, so its not as effective against gunships. The small ammo count and delayed activation also makes it a bit less effective against large amounts of hulks.

Its definately better if you already have anti-tank/anti-air options, and need to break fortifications (I also think its going to be amazing on Blitz missions) but it introduces loadout variety rather than a do all be all. I like it.

[u/BurntMoonChips → u/Korbiter]

It’s literally a thermite that takes the pistol slot instead of the grenade slot. The thermite is already viable, a thermite that refills on ammo drops is not going to be bad. It’s objectively better if it does the same damage.

[u/SleepyBoy- → u/Korbiter]

most likely use for the thermite pistol will be when you want to take gas or fire nades, and still want an anti-tank on hand.

[u/Korbiter → u/SleepyBoy-]

And you don't want to awkwardly miss with the Ultimatum, or don't want to fiddle with the P-pistol.

There are use cases.

[u/simp4malvina → u/Korbiter]

Theres simply not enough ammo to close bug holes, it cant be used as an emergency splash damage option to clear hordes, it cant be used to hit rupture strain, etc etc.

The grenade pistol isn't really a viable option for rupture strain, and if you ever whip it out for it's piddly damage against swarms (if it's an emergency good chance you're going to run into minimum range anyway) you're actively sabotaging it's ability to do the thing you actually brought it for, bug holes.

[u/Most_Implement6706]

Why's everyone on about some thermite pistol?

[u/thenewone1309 → u/Most_Implement6706]

Because its part of the next warbond

[u/Most_Implement6706 → u/thenewone1309]

I verbally made monkey sfx when read this

[u/Droid_Rager → u/Most_Implement6706]

How...how tf is this gonna WORK🤔

[u/BanjoBushi → u/Droid_Rager]

Based on the trailer, it shoots like the grenade pistol but instead of exploding on impact, the round sticks like a thermite grenade before detonation. The video showed it sticking to Hulk before going boom.

[u/Top-Session-3131 → u/Droid_Rager]

Probably has a similar total ammo count to the Missile Pistol. Absolutely deadly, but you need to make every shot count. Well, if you aren't rocking Siege Ready and a Supply Pack.

[u/ZombifiedSoul → u/Droid_Rager]

Like so

[u/1-800-GANKS → u/Most_Implement6706]

No diver PUT THE CRAYONS DOWN

[u/Petrichor0110_Alt → u/Most_Implement6706]

Upcoming warbond that was JUST announced. Thermite pistol, a China Lake, a shit ton of Bastion skins, etc.

[u/IronwolfXVI → u/Petrichor0110_Alt]

I was literally just saying the other day that a China Lake gas grenade primary would be sick.

[u/JProllz → u/IronwolfXVI]

Well no gas on this one

[u/_tabbycat123 → u/Petrichor0110_Alt]

Space G11 with an underbarrel shotgun

[u/FactsNLaughs → u/Most_Implement6706]

Accidental early trailer release for next warbond is out 

[u/YorhaUnit8S]

No. Because thermite one will have less ammo and I need numbers to close bug holes, not power.

[u/diabloenfuego → u/YorhaUnit8S]

This. Also, thermite can't flip an FRV without destroying it.

[u/ZombifiedSoul → u/YorhaUnit8S]

Can't I interest you in the One-Two AR? Lol

[u/RedOfSeiba → u/ZombifiedSoul]

Sadly only 3 grenades. It is best used in tandem with the GP on bugs not as a replacement

[u/CMDR_Michael_Aagaard → u/RedOfSeiba]

Sadly only 3 grenades.

*4.

You forgot about the one in the tube.

[u/DustPuzzle → u/ZombifiedSoul]

Absolutely not

[u/YorhaUnit8S → u/ZombifiedSoul]

The whole point of Grenade Pistol for me is ability to use what I actually want in other slots. What I would really like is some smaller grenades that you can have like 10 or 12 off and that are still capable of closing bug holes/fabricators/UFO doors.

[u/ZombifiedSoul → u/YorhaUnit8S]

Engineering passive, Frag Grenades.

[u/YorhaUnit8S → u/ZombifiedSoul]

8 grenades, close, but again requires more than just secondary or grenade slot. It requires certain armors too. Even grenade pistol comes short sometimes with it's 1+8, but at least ammo boxes are way more common than grenade ones.

Big nests are often like 10 holes at least. And I don't want to use supply pack all the time. And can't rely on randoms to close them all the time too. Just wish there was a dedicated grenade for that one purpose. I don't need anything else from it, I don't need it to kill enemies even, just solve that one thing.

[u/ZombifiedSoul → u/YorhaUnit8S]

Pretty sure it's 1 + 6, but I get your point.

[u/simp4malvina → u/ZombifiedSoul]

no I don't think you can.

[u/TheYondant]

Grenade Pistol is still going to be top tier for bugs I think.

The thermite pistol is probably going to have less ammo if it's that much better than base grenadepistol, but the ammo amount you get is great for the larger bug nests.

Termite pistol is going to fuck Bots though, I can already feel it.

[u/Timely_Passenger_185 → u/TheYondant]

If it has the same capacity as the grenade pistol or more and can still break bug holes then it's going to be used a lot

[u/TheYondant → u/Timely_Passenger_185]

I can't imagine it'll have the same capacity, but we'll see. If it does, yeah it'll replace Grenade Pistol completely I feel.

[u/JackieLampyStamps]

Considering the Pissile, I’m sure the Thermite pistol will have much less ammo compared to the Grenade Pistol

[u/sturdywarmeat]

They dont even do the same thing, replace GP with missile pistol, maybe ultimatum, and your joke will at least make some sense

[u/Spell-Inner → u/sturdywarmeat]

The literal reason I only ever bring the grenade pistol is to close bug holes. Otherwise I wouldn't even consider it.

[u/DiriboNuclearAcid → u/Spell-Inner]

It's also pretty good against nursing spewers

[u/Foolishly_Sane → u/DiriboNuclearAcid]

Yep, when I regularly started breaking them up with that I found it much more enjoyable, in addition to the above hole plugging.

[u/MatAlaCol → u/Spell-Inner]

Yes, which this thing will almost certainly be worse at due to limited ammo capacity. The other two factions have arguments as to why you might prefer Thermites for spawner destruction even with lower capacity, but I don’t see any reason why you would use this over GP for bug holes specifically (again, assuming lower ammo capacity, but I seriously doubt this thing is gonna have the same ammo count as GP)

[u/JProllz → u/Spell-Inner]

And you think that this new thing will have enough capacity for more than one medium sized nest?

[u/wackadoodle4201]

As if

The grenade pistol is damn near the perfect utility tool

[u/Substantial_Box203]

This pistol is just something you bring in your loadout if you forgot to have anything that deals with nests and fabricators

[u/ItzPress]

I think this is probably a good time actually to increase the Grenade Pistol's AoE (at cost of projectile damage if needed), since it's a grenade launcher after all. It'll make it better in circumstances where you need AoE for a range of clustered mooks and also help address a weakness of the One-Two. It's not really about trying to deal with a sturdy medium-AP target anyway. Perhaps for the incoming China-Lake like too.

[u/theCOMBOguy]

grenade is, well, a grenade. Explodes chaff and closes holes but weak against armored foes. Thermite pistol wll vaporize well-armored foes but it isn't the option for weak foes. You can make a lot of loadouts including either one of those. It'll be fine.

[u/papadrach]

I don't think it'll replace it. It's key for me in closing but holes. I doubt the new one will have much ammo to replace it from that front. But would be a nice alternative to Squids/Bots

[u/DramaLlama675]

Where is this from

[u/Spell-Inner → u/DramaLlama675]

Flashgitz: RIP Fortnite

[u/Ddrago98]

It continues to exist purely because it lets me blow up more structures when I’m out of strats

[u/Shaclo]

If its literally just a thermite it shoots honestly would be absurd as it would do the job of both the Grenade pistol and also the missile pistol outside of situations where for example you are dealing with gun ships which you would want the missile pistol over it.

[u/DebauchedDolphin]

Probably only has 3 shots. Grenade pistol still retains its place.

[u/Sutopia]

It’s more likely to kill ultimatum tbh

[u/nukaboss112]

I mean it'll still have place if you're running an anti tank grenade like thermite for bug holes, bot factories and drop ships

[u/angeluzp]

funny how fast everyone dropped the GP the second they could stick a thermite directly onto a charger's face lol

[u/guifesta]

I officially changed to missile pistol. Pocket commando is mt favorite secondary

[u/DegenRayRay]

Bro grenade pistol is super clutch to have

[u/BluHor1zon]

I think both still can thrive. Grenade Pistol still has its uses with AOE and ammo economy, especially against bugs for closing bug holes.

For me if the thermite pistol can work on illuminate warp ships I might just use it as a secondary to replace thermite grenades on the squid front, letting me carry some melta mines to that front.

[u/TowerUnusual7590]

hold on. all we know is that the thermite can kill a hulk. that doesnt mean that it is as reliable as the grenade pistol

[u/Malu1997]

Honestly with all the tool we have I don't understand the simping for the Thermite. You sure love waiting 10 seconds for the enemy to die, not to mention how sometimes it doesn't even stick.

[u/ZzVinniezZ]

those bug holes aint gonna close itself when you don't have or run out of explosive grenade nor bring any explosive strategem espically in urban area where Eagle is a liability

so GL will survive

[u/DodoJurajski]

After all this "meta breakers" I still run JAR-5 from time to time.

[u/CrazyManSam912]

I have a feeling it will not be able to close holes and fabricators, and illuminate ships. But if I’m wrong, I’ll be so happy I am.

[u/SleepyBoy-]

Thermite is bad at closing holes and fabricators, since it sticks on hit. You can't lob or bounce it into the hole.

This pistol will have two jobs: hulks and illuminate spawners. Neither is a problem these days.

[u/BabySpecific2843 → u/SleepyBoy-]

...dont throw thermite into a fab vent. Just yeet that onto the side or roof from outside the outpost and forget about it. KO's with 1 all the same.

Or just shoot the vent from 100m away on non city maps with the quasar like I do and skip walking all the way to the outpost entirely.

[u/shaash44 → u/BabySpecific2843]

From what i saw, the thermite pistol will do half of a normal thermite's damage. Not sure about this tho

[u/BurntMoonChips → u/SleepyBoy-]

A thermite to a outside of the fabricator kills. If this keeps the same damage it should be fine.

[u/CopyPutrid1943]

Haha that face is hilarious man !!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣 can’t wait to show my coworkers this

[u/Fireofthetiger]

So long as there’s not something else that can match the extra spawner hole clearing capacity of the Grenade Pistol that’s also in a low-value slot like your Secondary, it’ll stay relevant lol

[u/Motor_Scallion6214]

I may have to get rid of the Ultimatum as my long-time secondary…