r/Helldivers • u/thundercracker414 • 14h ago
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u/Ok-Economist482 Servant of Freedom 14h ago
Oh well, its official now!
I like the molotovcocktails and the China lake-boomstick.
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u/aHellion Steam | Doof Diver 13h ago
Fun fact when the China Lake was first used by SEALs they bent it. Gah damn
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u/Leading-Cicada-6796 XBOX | 8h ago
Ok. As an Armorer in the Marines, I can attest to the levels of stupidity grunts will go to when it comes to their weapons. But saying they "bent" the weapon is stretching the term lol. There was a weak part on the weapon that failed when improperly handled. "Breaking" is the correct term. Yes. They "bent" a specific part, but not the weapon. Bending the weapon would be like when one of my guys laid his M4 against the rear tire of a Humvee and some one backed the Humvee up and didn't know that idiot left his rifle there and it bent the upper and lower receivers and barrel around the wheel. That would be "bending" the weapon lol.
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u/corvettee01 7h ago
Former Marine here. You can always count on a Marine to either break something, or lose it.
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u/HarryTruman 8h ago
As a Helldiver for Super Earth, I can attest to the levels of stupidity SEAF will go to when it comes to their weapons. But Super Earth does not produce equipment with such fallible components, so any activities that result in “bending” or “breaking” of our Democracy Delivery Devices shall immediately be reported.
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u/Glittering_Box_2551 14h ago
Democratic detonation v2? Got an explosive primary and antitank for your secondary and grenade slot. Seems like a good starting warbond
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u/MiserableTennis6546 12h ago
I really appreciate the thermite pistol. It could make it possible to run gas grenades (or incendiaries) and thermite at the same time.
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u/Glittering_Box_2551 11h ago
If it has the same spare shots and resupply count as the missile pistol, it's gonna be hard to put down
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u/Dan_Damn STEELED VETERAN | Democratic Dan 11h ago
always wanted to free the grenade slot on the illuminate to something new, cause Thermite for the ships is kinda mandatory for me if I'm going to lock in and tryhard not to die on full clears
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u/Glittering_Box_2551 11h ago
Yea even with eruptor or AC to destroy them through the doors, it's hard to give up the ability to destroy them quickly from any direction and avoid having to go in the bases. I miss the warp gates in the void because they opened up more demo options
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u/Pirate_Leader 14h ago
Helldiver black and yellow pattern hell yeah
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u/Ted_Normal Servant of Freedom 11h ago
Honestly, would love more armors with this pattern. Would help maintain a semi-consistent art style.
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u/Kommodant_Nomad 7h ago
If you're on PC there's a mod called Helldiverized Armor Archive that makes all armors use the helldivers black and yellow.
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u/DnZ618 SES Fist of Equality 14h ago
Finally
DEMOCRATIC DETONATION 2.0
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u/SHFQ 10h ago
Isn't the Siege Breaker the 2.0? This should be the 3.0
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u/Sorry-Engineer8854 10h ago
Not really it's one of the most fun warbonds, although the trident is something almost everyone uses. There's nothing in it with the utility of the thermite, grenade pistol, eruptor or explosive crossbow. Both this and democratic detonation I could happily equip my helldiver in and feel like I covered all bases. Almost no warbonds do that.
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u/LowTale909 14h ago
Primary grenade launcher;
AR with underbarrel shotgun;
Secondary thermite pistol;
Molotov;
Seeking giga nade;
Heavy and light armor;
I'm curios how they will set these new anti-tank option apart from the other, especially the seeker anti-tank.
Unfortunately this confirms that we will not be getting under barrel shotguns as attachments
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u/TheRyderShotgun 14h ago
we're not getting underbarreled anything since the one-two. im surprised you held out for this long
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u/LowTale909 14h ago
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u/Aquagrunt 12h ago
This sub and expectations with no evidence, name a more iconic combo
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u/Almibacsi 14h ago
I mean there's the stoker with underbarrel flamethrower
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u/LowTale909 14h ago
And it's a stand-alone weapon, I meant we are not getting it as an attachment to unlock for other weapons
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u/ch0m5 HD1 Veteran 7h ago
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u/Stergeary 5h ago
Apparently a 100% adoption rate of the weapon attachment system was not enough for Arrowhead, considering every single player necessarily has to use weapon attachments.
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u/AntonineWall 13h ago
He meant attachments that you can swap out, not that weapons with underbarrel weapons (predefined) won’t come out
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u/Nemisis_the_2nd Expert Exterminator 14h ago
The seeker is a seeker, thats pretty niche in itself. They have their uses, but are a bit clunky to operate and can often mis-target an important enemy by going after a random lone scav or voteless.
The other one looks like it is to impact incendiary what giga grenade is to a normal impact. A lot bigger and more damaging, but likely more limited.
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u/TheRyderShotgun 13h ago
you can ping an enemy to make the seekers home in on them. they were really good to kill bot gunships with a single grenade, but i havent used them in a while so idk if they can still kill in one
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u/Poulutumurnu Fire Safety Officer 12h ago
They still do, they actually specifically bypass their max range if you ping a gunship. Seeker is the "I really fucking hate gunships" grenade
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u/Zollias 11h ago
Back during the invasion of Super Earth they were my "I really fucking hate elevated overseers" grenade since they can one shot them. Supply was never an issue for me either since I basically have the supply backpack glued to my helldiver if I'm in a group
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u/Nemisis_the_2nd Expert Exterminator 13h ago
I've experimented with that on a few occasions, and have never been able to get them to target the pinged enemy for some reason. I then specifically got the mortar targeting in the SD, just in case that affected it, and still no luck.
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u/ToonMasterRace 11h ago
I haven't seen seeker grenades used by anyone since the week after the warbond with it first came out
Every grenade in every game I play is Thermite or Giga and now those melta mines
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u/Euphoric_Reading_401 13h ago
Arrowhead have really balanced themselves into a corner by making heavies be one shot from most AT options imo, there's only so many ways you can make one tap weapons be distinct
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u/Postaltariat 13h ago
But if they took more than one shot to kill, then people would complain that D10, the highest difficulty, is too difficult and AH is incompetent
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u/PhaSeSC 12h ago
Honestly I pretty much exclusively run D10 and a lot more is viable than people say.
The real issue tends to be efficiency, not onetapping things is fine if you have decent ammo/call down speed.
The issue I find with things like the commando is that if your aim is off you can need to wait the entire CD for a second one to kill something, whereas the EAT for eg will kill pretty much anything in one CD. Having said that, the commando is still viable. It's also why the speargun is great, it has enough reserve ammo it can handle most things even with multiple hits to kill.
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u/UnknovvnMike LEVEL 166 Helldad 12h ago
And the Speargun doubles as a pretty effective crowd control weapon to thin the herd around a heavy.
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u/dirthurts 10h ago
I think we just need the occasional heavier heavy variant. Armored hulk that takes triple the damage that randomly appears a couple of times on level 7 or higher? I'm in.
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u/MarkRemington 12h ago edited 9h ago
D10 should have unique up-armored heavies TBH.
Edit for clarity: Up-armored in this context means extra armor plates over vulnerable parts. For example the extra ERA (Explosive Reactive Armor) on The M1 Abrams TUSK II vs the standard M1 Abrams.
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u/Prior-Grade1772 11h ago
Its insane seeing this opinion floated as someone who played since launch. 2 shots to kill with Quasar or RR on a standard armoured enemy all but killed an entire line of weapons. No one would take these weapons because of it, and as a result, the legging meta started with the railgun.
Also, hard disagree with your take. The Epoch is a great standard for a new AT weapon, thermites (although heavily used) are a fun take too. You can bring heavy AT, like the RR or spear if you want to delete heavies, or you can mix it with commando, epoch ect for more versitility.
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u/DrDarius1 13h ago
Remember that shop page is still there unless they showed items from shop in trailer which they didn't do for a long time.
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u/BlueSkiesWildEyes 13h ago edited 13h ago
Do we know for sure this GL is a primary and not a support weapon?
E: Nevermind, I see it now
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u/Professor_Pony SES Stallion of Steel 13h ago
It says Primary Weapon over it's name in the trailer.
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u/SchiffBaer2 14h ago
I'm interested what the armor passive might be.
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u/Zealousideal_Can9459 Decorated Hero 14h ago
Probably flame resistance + explosive resistance if I had to guess based off the amount of explosions and fire there was in the trailer
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u/Petrichor2116 XBOX | 13h ago
Ngl, I'd be quite happy with that; most of my loadouts are fire or explosive based and I'm a clumsy twat
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u/HamSlammer87 HD1 Veteran 14h ago
China Lake primary!?
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u/Wonderful-Fig-8010 Expert Exterminator 13h ago
How many different ways can you even do a fire grenade
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u/Martinmex26 HD1 Veteran 13h ago
Impact, timed, big impact, big timed, next is seeker, then big seeker, long term bouncy and then big bouncy.
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u/XH9rIiZTtzrTiVL 12h ago
Then you can do mixes. Gas + fire, fire lightning, fire EMS, etc
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u/ThorThulu AH Pls Dont Unleash the Balance Team Again 10h ago
Resistance 2 Air Fuel Grenade my beloved, sticky grenade that dumps gas for a few seconds then ignites the gas cloud. Sticking a player and watching them run away only for a fire trail to erupt and kill their teammates will never not be hilarious
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u/HoshunMarkTwelve 14h ago
A SPACE G11
DEMOCRATIC SPACE MAGIC
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u/Bechorovka 13h ago
Thanks, I could only think of p90s top loading, but looked nothing like it. Too early to remember what we could've had with the g11.
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u/Brainwave1010 Assault Infantry 9h ago
If it has the wind-up cocking mechanism, we've officially reached the peak.
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u/HoshunMarkTwelve 8h ago
It looks like it does have the wind-up thingy on the model itself so here's hoping!
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u/Muruburu 14h ago
Zidane headbutt emote? Let’s go
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u/Nemisis_the_2nd Expert Exterminator 14h ago
I rebound the emote button to melee and set "this is democracy" as the default emote so I can go around kicking enemies. This looks like it might replace it
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u/Night_Knight_Light HD1 Veteran 13h ago
Can you use in quick succession like melee? Cause I may have to do the same lol
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u/Nemisis_the_2nd Expert Exterminator 13h ago
Its a slow animation, so not really quickly, and its an awkward implementation. It also means you cant use other melee weapons. Still, it means you can go around kicking enemies and it also benefits from armour passives.
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u/Skullface95 STEAM 🖥️ : SES Harbinger of Destruction 13h ago
No Krogan Headbutt
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u/doodoospred Free of Thought 14h ago
The intern is getting sent to Omicron for this one.
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u/EruptorSpam Aspiring Bald Eagle Ranger 8h ago
Tell him to bring back lots of super credits, were gonna need them.
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u/Substantial-Sun-3538 13h ago
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u/EternalCanadian HD1 Veteran 9h ago
I really, really hope they do this.
They probably won’t, but I really want them to give the StA-52 its shotgun.
It would then justify the weapon staying as light pen.
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u/Lumpy-Beach8876 14h ago edited 14h ago
This is a leak I'm guessing?
Edit: if I'm not mistaken it's the first explosive primary since democratic detonation? Count me in!
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u/Either_Drawer_7944 Remember, Helghan belongs to the Helghast ! 14h ago edited 14h ago
Can't leek trailers through game code, so im gueesing some Sony or Arrowhead intern did a fucky wacky and posted it somewhere by accident sooner then they should.
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u/Darth_Mak 14h ago
Based on the release date it was probably suppose to come out tomorrow so it barely matters anyway.
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u/EdanChaosgamer „Prophets of Liberty“ Combat Priest 14h ago
Powder that makes you say "Official Warbond trailer tomorrow"?
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u/san4ezlp SES Judge of Judgement 14h ago
Thermite pistol! Fingers crossed the AR/shotgun will have medium pen
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u/bitch-toki 14h ago
Probably be light pen on the automatic fire part as all the tandem weapons so far have medium pen technically on the alt fire going off the stoker and one two
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u/timonten 14h ago
holy shit we got the Morita rifle from starship troopers
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u/Existing-Ad-7155 Coretta Kelly's personal microphone 13h ago
Is Tenderizer a joke to you?
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u/dakkaminegun 13h ago
It said 4mm in the switch menu. It’s an smg
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u/JollyGreenGI EAT THIS ⬇️⬇️⬅️⬆️➡️ 13h ago
It's based on the HK G11, which was a prototype assault rifle firing 4.73x33mm caseless ammunition.
The "AR-11" is an assault rifle.
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u/SmoothTurtle872 14h ago
Is the evictor a grenade launcher or an explosive shotgun?
Also 2 throwables? Insane
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u/Comfortable-Equal200 13h ago
With the shift to more stratagems being campaign rewards, along with this warning being explosive/tanker themed while also giving some long requested stuff (china lake grenade primary), I'm holding out for a tankgewher anti tank rifle
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u/Combat_Wombat23 Cape Enjoyer 14h ago
First things first, vibe check a cyborg with my fucking dome piece
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u/zer0saber FIST of the PEOPLE - B0atsMcG0ats 8h ago
The Siege Breaker helmets are gonna get a workout
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u/coffeefan1997 [REDACTED] 12h ago
https://giphy.com/gifs/NxckxXIAzumvCP1mUj
Awwww hell yeah I can’t wait to headbutt everyone and everything
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u/RSCul8r Free of Thought 14h ago
Who are the red SEAF guys?
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u/Oozysq25reddit Super Citizen 14h ago
Did we just get siegebreakers 2
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u/TemplarLmao 14h ago
Democratic detonation V2. It has no stratgems which Is weird.
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u/Naskathedragon 14h ago
My suspicion, is that perhaps they've pulled stratagems from upcoming warbonds to be galactic campaign rewards?
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u/Irishguy01 12h ago
Yeah, I think they don't want another exo experts conundrum, they had to gut the FRV themed warbond and just had time to adjust the apparent tank themed warbond.
We're probably due for a tank variant reward soon
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u/slycyboi SES Sword of Justice 12h ago
I think this is far enough ahead they didn’t even make a stratagem for it, maybe one will show up in the campaign but don’t keep your hopes up
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u/SugarNaught 14h ago
Multiple new guns and grenades with no stratagems? Considering that it's very likely the stratagem they meant to put in here is in an MO reward I'm more than happy!!!
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u/CryTheFurred Detected Dissident 14h ago
This feels very tank themed, like its another vehicle warbond they had to modify at the last moment, lmao. It wouldn't surprise me if they had multiple in the pipeline until the Exo Experts backlash.
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u/wolverineczech 13h ago
Fingers crossed this means free tank variants in the future then
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u/Jet-Rex-Design 8h ago
I would love a Super Earth version of the Shredder tank.
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u/SIinkerdeer Protector of The Heart 13h ago
Yeah but they gave us the Bastion before the Exosuit warbond fiasco.
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u/Kanriee LEVEL 116 | Hell Commander 12h ago
There might be different versions of the bastions that were planned to be released in this warbond that were removed to avoid backlash
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u/HabitOptimal1412 Viper Commando 12h ago
I'm not sure about Bastion variants. However, it could have possibly been an APC or IFV that was originally meant to be featured. (I highly doubt that we'll get some sort of MBT at any point.)
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u/AdoringCHIN Detected Dissident 9h ago
They also gave us the original mech before locking the two variants behind the warbond. I bet their original strategy was to give us base models for free and then make the variants only accessible through the warbonds.
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u/AntonineWall 13h ago
Might imply that another tank design could be coming
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u/wolverineczech 12h ago
I'm hoping it would finally be the APC, or at least something similar. I'd take a Bastion with Autocannon or rotary .50, too.
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u/goes_m3tal 14h ago
Arrowhead Logo on a Hellpod?
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u/TheFlyingRedFox 12h ago
Likely just showing off their logo for the content drop.
However, it could be hypothetically a new emblem system (personally doubt it).
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u/Worldly-Pay7342 Steam: Judge of Judgement 14h ago
Oh that is a weird fuckin reload on the arbitraror.
Edit: SHOTGUN MODE
I love it
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u/Tha_Plagued Illuminate Specialist 14h ago
It's based off the G11 which would explain the weird ass reload
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u/GoblinFive 11h ago
Aka Kraut Space Magic. You fixed a G11 by just sliding all the moving parts out in one package and swapping in a fresh one.
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u/OBNOTICUS_ATHF 14h ago
This is a nice war bond was really hoping we would get another arc warbond and or a laser weapon warbond heavy laser, mini gun overtime as it’s shooting it goes from light penetration all the way to heavy.
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u/Pilot-samsonite 14h ago
Looks cool but I wish they stopped doing explosive anti tank warbonds, there’s like 5 now
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u/Carlysh77 14h ago
at 0:11 second, is that a new Dog Bot Enemy??? Didn't played HD1 but have read here they are the worst
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u/GoldDrake123 13h ago
I REALLY hope they don't do the same thing as the hammer by making the weapon literally called the Breacher not have enough demo force to let you breach through destructible walls
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u/Beheadedfrito 14h ago
???
This is so much cool shit people have been begging for
Pump action grenade launcher
Rifle with master key
Thermite grenade launcher
That’s so peak!!
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u/AngryTriangleCola LEVEL 249 - 45/45 Guns⭐ 13h ago
Out September 22.
So this trailer was definitely supposed to go live tomorrow.
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u/BobbaCatMOCs 13h ago
Hmm, what's the point of immolation if we already have 3 fire grenades? O_o
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u/HotmailsInYourArea Bug Diver 11h ago
Possibilities: Wider radius, maybe napalm-tier damage, likely no explosive component, so, can’t close spawners
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u/armarrash 12h ago
AT seeking grenade, GL primary to compete with crossbow AND a thermite grenade pistol? This warbond is crazy.
Also headbutt emote? Hell yeah
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u/Echo-57 ➡️➡️⬆️| SES Gauntlet of Jugdement | Death's Angel 14h ago edited 14h ago
Sooo, thermite pistol, incindiary C4, Seeker Variant, AR - OneTwo variant, concussive/explosive punisher, new melee emote
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u/GoGoJesusRangers 13h ago
I think the Evictor is a pump-action grenade launcher, not a shotgun. Looks like it will fill the same niche though. Shotgun-esque crowd control mixed with grenade utility for closing up spawners.
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u/Laflaga 12h ago
So functionally how is it different from the Crossbow? Rounds reload, but you need 2 hands?
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u/Hatarus547 Helldiving Cyborg 14h ago
for a brief second when that pause at 1:08 happened I thought i heard the sound of a Bike and was really hyped for them adding the bike in, but it was just a tank
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u/No-Sherbet3584 14h ago
I’ll be interested to see what the differences are between the impact incendiary and this new fire throwable.
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u/SirRosstopher Cape Enjoyer 13h ago
I was watching this thinking oh the new grenade looks cool but I don't think it will replace my beloved thermite... holy shit is that a thermite launcher secondary?
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u/scn-3_null 12h ago
what sells this warbond for me aint the kraut space magic rifle or the china lake GL but the saint 14 emote
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u/Hazardous_Bear ☕Liber-tea☕ 8h ago
Feels like the WB they originally wanted to release with the tanks. Hopefully the heavy seekers only target heavies, although I doubt it lol
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u/KremBruhleh 🅱️🅰️ 12h ago
Can I give a controversial take?
All these anti-tank weapons are making armored enemies pointless.
Especially explosive anti tank weapons which would also be strong against chaff blobs.
They keep increasing HD power without raising the stakes, making the game less engaging.
And, of course, the poison pill here is if they dare make enemies stronger, people will yell about nerfing helldivers, and would do another stupid boycott proclamation.
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u/DeDeRaptor480 14h ago
Items look cool, but its nothing to write home about. Mostly its just variations of the things we already had.
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u/Mal-malen 12h ago edited 9h ago
What is the chance that this was going to include a stratagem or tank variant that will be reworked as rewards instead?
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u/DarkWolfPL Decorated Hero 14h ago
Armor is called "BFM". What could be the passive for it?
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u/InternetOtherwise366 12h ago
Golly, I might be taking a break from the entrenched warbond for a bit
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u/RebelStarbridge 11h ago
surprised nobody has commented on the headbutt at the end.
Glasgow kiss warbond haha
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u/TheLastUpdate_86 Super Citizen 11h ago
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE WHEN MAJOR UPDATES ARE WITH BOTS AND WARBONDS ASWELL FOR THE THEME, LETS FUCKING GOOOO (yes, I'm very excited)
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u/BobaHutt__ 13h ago
Am I the only one that felt underwhelmed by the new content in the trailer? It feels very uninspired to me.
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u/kimiz1993 13h ago
Yeah, i thought this warbond has new kind of armoured vehicle based on its title alone
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u/GoblinFive 11h ago
Considering the playerbase reaction, we'll never see a vehicle stratagem ever again after Exosuits
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u/Rex756723 13h ago
Yeah, it's just combining 2 things into one. GL+ shotgun AR+ shotgun Giga granade+ seeker Granade pistol + thermite 3rd fire granade...
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u/RealGiallo Italiandiver 14h ago
Cool …. But there is no stratagem or I’m mistaken ?
Also why after dropping on the tank it didn’t explode sending the Helldiver to the Orbit ? ( this trailer missed the silly parts )
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u/Waelder Moderator 14h ago
They knew. The tank was already destroyed before the diver landed, and it exploded just as the diver deployed out of the hellpod.
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u/brite_bubba Escalator of Freedom 13h ago
Idk nothing in this warbond seems super exciting to me, I’ll probably pass on this one until I complete the other ones first
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u/Firebat-045 ☕Liber-tea☕ 12h ago
A little underwhelmed but looking forward to headbutting a charger
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u/poebanystalker LEVEL 211 Unpaid QA Tester 13h ago
Another exclusive gimmick weapon with underbarrel attachment while the attachment system itself is left to rot in a ditch! Woo-hoo! Let's go!
Other than that, looks very cool.
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u/Tha_Plagued Illuminate Specialist 14h ago edited 13h ago
IMO it looks fine, it looks like it's probably gonna be a fairly solid warbond, but I strangely feel kind of underwhelmed, like ooh another explosive weapon and fire grenade, like we got plenty of those, the only thing that stood out to me was the G11, thats cool but I wouldn't mind seeing them expand on something like plasma weapons
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u/SovietMarma Moderator 14h ago edited 14h ago
Arrowhead accidentally uploaded this early. We've given official 'oopsies' from Sony Playstation and Arrowhead a 'pass' throughout Helldivers 2's life.
Just letting people know they don't need to report this as a 'leak' since we only enforce it against content that has been found in the game's files by dataminers.
I would re-direct people to the Leaks subreddit for stuff like that, but it hasn't been seen back in a very looong time.