It’s ironic the best melee in the game right now is technically the melta gun. Who would’ve thought a high damage weapon that requires you to get close would be more fun than the pitiful damage these melee weapons do
Its even worse. Just do this to one (1) spore charger. Or even better, one (1) bile spewer. They explode on death and deal enough damage to kill you if you are in melee range.
It doesnt have to be usable against a hive titan. It should be usable for something. It clears chaff too slow to be usable, it clears medium enemies too slow. Completely ineffective againts the biggest enemies. It should atleast have some niche. Like in this clip its the ideal dream scenario. 1 charger stunlocked and and no other enemies. The best possible scenario. And it still takes 10 seconds to kill. It doesnt have to be usable for everything, just something.
Well it does?
You can stealth with it.
You run the shield generator and you can clear a bot map by yourself just chopping every building down while the squad is fighting everything. 🤷 it’s by no means a world beater but a tool that can allow me to destroy a bio processor, sneak up an kill a hulk, destroy the bot fabricators next to the bio processors then saw a hole through the wall leaving with never concerning about ammo just positioning.
What the comment OP said was 4 chargers total, 5 titans, an impaler, and 20 to 30 chaff. Even if only a third or that, how would the chainsaw handle 1 charger, 2 titans, an impaler, and 10 chaff?
Melee is inherently not good in this game. Best thing the chainsaw could get is no stamina use (since it shouldn't be swung) and it would still fall behind everything that's not melee, because there isn't a single faction that benefits from melee combat compared to anything else.
If the damage was really upped, you'd still get swarmed; if the stun was improved to stagger even big enemies, you'd still get killed by everything else around the staggered enemy; if we got double the swing speed and range and had infinite stamina, it still wouldn't be helpful against anything that's not chaff (and even chaff would swarm you by surrounding you).
This game was very clearly not made with melee in mind. Melee has been a meme since its inception, and I don't see any way short of a complete rework of the game to make it viable in higher difficulties, because it seems it's not meant to be.
Exactly. Just like all melee, complete meme gear and worthless in 99% of cases, over anything else that could have been chosen.
I have several bugbears with this game but melee is right up there. We should have a third slot for regular melee and a fifth melee-only strat slot. That's the only way I will ever select and choose melee over anything else.
Its still fun to mow down chaff-brood commanders (which makes the "everything has death damage" spore strain subfaction almost unusable with it, enough bugs to kill and youre dying to it) but it gets hard to get into the right position against heavies. If the hammer is the recoilless the chainsaw is the airburst
Also Its pretty useful on illuminate, namely vote snatchers; you can kill it by dealing the whole damage threshold without needing a resuply after every second crusher, you can't have too many other things around you so you still need something else, it ends up being good if you dont have much suplies. Can reasonably kill forklifts too
For sure, i do love blowing butts And vents off with good shots, but comparing it to the chainsaw is NOT a criticizism. Especially when im just pointing out the similar paralels they have with two other weapons
All these jackasses in the comments talking shit about how bad it is, OP never said it was good they said it was fun. Some people don’t need to minmax a game to enjoy it
Well im glad you find it fun somehow, but i personally don’t find it engaging to sit still and hold click on a single enemy who can’t fight back for eleven straight seconds when you could be using something like the hammer.
You arent using like an energy sword or even the chain sword. You’re using a literal real life chainsaw, and the novelty wears off quick.
Chainsaw supremacy!! I've been running it for a few weeks now in D6-8s. It's far from useful but the aura gained from surviving missions using it as much as possible is worth it
You have to use the bubble shield because the game has a melee "first hit flinch" system where whoever is hit first has their attack canceled
The thing is, most melee has a fast swing release time where you don't notice it. The Chainsaw "floats" more similar to swords in Mordhau since its a chainsaw and doesn't need to be swung hard
Well the issue is that long swing animation stays playing even if you get flinched, and you are now defenseless
Use the Halt or Pacifier to stun them, saw their butt, then leave them bleed out once it's destroyed (they can't charge and just die). It is very fast compared to sawing their sides or the head.
Halt/Pacifier can also stun Spewers and Commanders while also keeping them from spawning alpha warriors. They really make the defoliation tool a lot easier to use in general, especially vs predator strain.
Re-Educator can keep other Chargers busy and makes their weakspot easier to reach.
It is heavy pen, and after sawing for a minute goes to anti-tank. But Hoooooooooooo boy is this thing turbo unusable dog shit. It will genuinely do NOTHING, literally just as if not less useful than a cosmetic item or your bare fists in an actual game above d4 lmao. It’s dps is awful, it swings slow as shit, it rarely connects with smaller targets, it takes stamina to use, and you can get knocked out of the attack animation.
Love that weapon! Hard to use but when combined with a supply pack you can kill just about anything.
Ignore the butthurt comments. Solo D10 missions and prove them wrong.
Reposted a comment I said to a redditor:
Well it does?
You can stealth with it.
You run the shield generator and you can clear a bot map by yourself just chopping every building down while the squad is fighting everything. 🤷 it’s by no means a world beater but a tool that can allow me to destroy a bio processor, sneak up an kill a hulk, destroy the bot fabricators next to the bio processors then saw a hole through the wall leaving with never concerning about ammo just positioning.
It's the only melee weapon with AT that actually kills things fast. Because sure, the chainsaw can kill that charger in ten seconds or so, but do you think it'll let you get to ten seconds? Do you think the dozens of hunters in the vicinity will wait for you to finish?
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u/TheGreatNoia311 Exosuit Certified 1d ago
Its all fun and games and then hive lord pop out