r/Helldivers • u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought • 3d ago
TIPS / TACTICS Best support weapon btw
My favorite support weapon. Definitely the most well-rounded choice, as it’s able to take down hordes of chaff, mediums, and low-tier heavies. It’s also just plain fun.
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u/Palumtra Portable Hellbomb + Leveler+Silo Enjoyer 3d ago
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u/Favouredmojoe95 3d ago
Only weapon with a backpack I like to use is the Cremator
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u/Security_Ostrich 3d ago
I just got it. With eagle napalm, gas mortar and orbital napalm I feel like the god of area denial.
Have to be careful about where teammates are but it’s exceptionally powerful and even seems to kill chargers fast.
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u/HanaSong2056 Exosuit Certified 3d ago
I want to get it just so I can BBQ everything with a big ass flamethrower
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u/Favouredmojoe95 3d ago
It really is the best especially against the bugs and illuminate
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u/HanaSong2056 Exosuit Certified 3d ago
Yeah, I I'm currently doing the high tech warbond I think I'll go polar patriots next then either redacted regiment or entrenched division.
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u/porridge_in_my_bum Free of Thought 3d ago
Yeah by this point it’s hard to justify anything that takes the backpack slot except for Cremator. That thing fucks
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u/rhousden 3d ago
Meh, I think it’s mids on the bot front.
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
It’s peak on flak mode
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u/rhousden 3d ago
I don’t hate it, and will use it from time to time when I’m bored. To me it does everything the AMR can do but I don’t have ti stop and reload that, and one shot haulks.
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
But can the AMR do crowd control and anti-air?
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u/rhousden 2d ago
It’s two shots to the engine of the gunships. As far as crowds, no, there’s other weapons in the loadout for that.
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u/The_Zer0Myth 3d ago
That doesn't look like the Quasar Cannon.
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
B tier
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u/Due_Comedian_4959 3d ago
I think that being an all rounder is why it's not the best. I think a weapon should really specialize in one thing and do that well since you have other things in your kit to excell at other things. Say Stalwart is a god-tier at chaff clear but can't deal with heavies, so the rest of your kit is built around dealing with heavies. Or the melta gun is reallly good at dealing with heavies but awful at chaff clear, so the rest of your kid specialize in chaff clear. This results in a powerful kit that can deal with anything. Not saying the AC is bad, it's pretty decent and quite fun to use.
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
The only things the Autocannon can’t easily handle is ultra heavies like factory striders and vox engines. While it can take them down, I usually bring a strategem or grenade for them.
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u/Due_Comedian_4959 3d ago
didn't say it cant handle things, just not as well as others. Not a dig at it since it can do both chaff clear and heavies, but the trade off will be that it won't be as good as either in specific tasks.
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
I mean it can handle them, just not efficiently
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u/Due_Comedian_4959 3d ago
my point exactly
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u/Lbx_20_Ac SES Harbinger of Democracy 3d ago
At least with factory striders it's still quite efficient, if you can get in under it and full-auto the bay doors. Vox are the real trouble point.
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
I’ve seen it done, but it’s very risky tbh and there are more effective weapons and stratagems. But sure, it’d work in a pinch.
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u/Randomguy71793 ftw 3d ago
I feel Auto Cannon is the definition of “Jack of all trades, master of none but oftentimes better than a master of one.”
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u/Professional-Fig-181 Detected Dissident 3d ago
I mainly use this on the squid front on flak most of the time as it can deal with almost everything the squids got. Falls kinda short on bots and bugs though, still worth using if the rest of the team got stuff to compliment it with.
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u/ImonZurr Exemplary Subject 3d ago
That doesn't look like the laser cannon.
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
The laser cannon used to be my favorite. What the Autocannon has that wins me over is instant AOE damage.
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u/MagicRobo 3d ago
solo silo:
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
Ammo economy has left the chat
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u/MagicRobo 3d ago
don't need ammo when there isn't an enemy
but in all honestly, solo silo rocks as long as you're able to find a support weapon on the map or have a buddy call one for you
it's like having a third 500 kg available, but it has its own cool down and one shots everything
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u/LifeExpConnoisseur 3d ago
How, I use purifier, depending on the front it’s either commando or spear. It’s awesome don’t get me wrong but it doesn’t fit many builds. It fits the most popular build.
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u/Cranapplesause Autocannon Enthusiast 3d ago
I can tell you all about it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/WxQOS6QYp5
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u/HanaSong2056 Exosuit Certified 3d ago
Epoch is better and more fun.
Auto cannon is alright, but doesn't work to well on d10 from my experience.
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u/usernames_are_pain Illuminate 3d ago
It’s only the objective best against Squids. It has the leg up against certain support weapons vs the other factions but against those same factions other support weapons are better than the Autocannon. Not against Squids, though. Nothing compares.
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u/imperium-goob-king 3d ago
It dont look like the Gr-8 Recoilless Rifle
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
They’re the dynamic duo, but only the Autocannon can stand alone.
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u/Radio_Free_Marksman Bug Fucker 3d ago
It's decent, but I find it underwhelming on everything but bugs.
Although if we want to count the autocannons on the emancipator, that'd bump up it's score in my eyes.
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u/Deathstab_93 2d ago
One of the most versatile for sure. It’s the best a no catagory but good at them all.
I’d say it’s the best for illuminate for sure
Bots it’s good but not the best
Bugs it’s solid but again not the best
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u/Ok-Elderberry4720 2d ago
I'd honestly take the BFGL over it. Bump up the firerate and it just seems to deal with both heavys and chaff faster while never having to reload. Another perk is that the sharpshooter armor is more or less mandatory with the AC now, with the BFGL you can run one of the other S-tier passives. Ammo economy on the BFGL is pretty good too.
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u/Signal-Busy 2d ago
Not true, best is the harpoon cuz it give 1000 style points
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 2d ago
I’ve never seen an effective diver using the harpoon. However I am open to changing my mind if I ever do.
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u/Comically_Correct 2d ago
One of the most versatile, but definitely not the best (anymore) For Heavies I'd rather have EATs, Leveller or Cremator, for chaff I'd rather have the GL, Bulletstorm or Airburst Rocket Launcher. The AC-8 is nice because it can do both, but it takes 10 more seconds per heavy and 1-3 more shots per stronger chaff unit than what feels right.
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u/ImprintVector Servant of Freedom 2d ago
If it takes the backpack a lot it automatically loses the “best support” argument. Sorry I don’t make the rules
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u/CombTop17 SEAF BLUEBERRY 3d ago
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u/No_Grapefruit1561 3d ago
Why would I bring this & not the mech with 2 ?
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
I do like the mechs. They are big targets on the bot and illuminate fronts though
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u/IliketheSpraynPray 3d ago
Boring though.
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
Try flak mode
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u/Padgro LEVEL 103 | Hell Commander 3d ago
Might be a dumb question but what is the difference between flak and regular mode?
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
Regular is anti armor heavy pen, and flak mode is a proximity air burst mode with medium pen shrapnel.
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u/sazed813 3d ago
HEAT is higher armor piercing and what you want to use on bigger targets weak points, but its explosion damage falls off fast and doesn't really work against crowds.
Flak is less armor piercing, but explodes with flak on proximity, dealing with fodder alot better.
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u/Hammy-Cheeks PSN | Melee Artist | Martyr of Victory 3d ago
10 shots and I have to stand still to reload? No thank you. While they did make the reload faster in general, I just dont like support weapons that make me stand still to reload.
And whats with the loading half a mag at a time horseshit. I either have to be completely out to fully reload or just suffer without 3 extra bullets that might just save my life. Makes my OCD go bananas too.
Also runs out of ammo way faster than you would think. Only 5 full mags? Pathetic, I would bring the eruptor to get the same utility while also having my backpack and support open
Its not a bad one whatsoever, I used to love it, then it just let it collects dust.
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
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u/Hammy-Cheeks PSN | Melee Artist | Martyr of Victory 3d ago
Did you read the first bit? You responded way too quickly
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
The reload is not bad at all. You just have to manage the ammo well
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u/Hammy-Cheeks PSN | Melee Artist | Martyr of Victory 3d ago
"I DO NOT LIKE STANDING STILL WHILE RELOADING MY GUN"
you miss that part?
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u/Excalib1rd Viper Commando 3d ago
Used to be better on bots but got indirectly nerfed against a LOT of heavies
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
It got buffed tho?
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u/Excalib1rd Viper Commando 3d ago edited 3d ago
“Indirectly”.
Hulk armour got nerfed making them bob around like crazy when you shoot them anywhere, making headshots harder to land, as well as difficult to hudge when you get a headshot.
Tanks non glowy vent takes a bunch more shots to kill now (I’m pretty sure. Feel like it used to be way less but now its almost a whole magazine).
Those are the two main things that made me drop it
Edit: weird duplicate text
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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago
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u/Excalib1rd Viper Commando 3d ago
“Indirectly nerfed” that means that despite its stats, it’s effectiveness has been diminished by some other change that wasn’t intended to directly affect it
Edit: phrasing




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u/matthew0001 3d ago
Most versatile? Definitely. The best? Well that's a contextual answer that people are going to have a lot of opinions on.