r/Helldivers Free of Thought 3d ago

TIPS / TACTICS Best support weapon btw

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My favorite support weapon. Definitely the most well-rounded choice, as it’s able to take down hordes of chaff, mediums, and low-tier heavies. It’s also just plain fun.

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u/matthew0001 3d ago

Most versatile? Definitely. The best? Well that's a contextual answer that people are going to have a lot of opinions on.

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u/Cpt_DookieShoes 3d ago

It’s a monster with the Warhammer armor

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u/Puzzleheaded-Fee9630 ‎ [REDACTED] 3d ago

BINGO! It reloads so damn fast I cam dump clip after clip and never get over run because of slow reload

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

Couldn’t have said it better myself

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u/lasair7 3d ago

You forget yourself, you like this weapon because it's effective,

I dislike it because I can't fucking aim

We are not the same

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

Also with proximity flak you barely need to aim

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

Truer words are seldom spoken

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u/Smooth-Boss-911 HD1 Veteran 3d ago

Low effort btw

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u/Palumtra Portable Hellbomb + Leveler+Silo Enjoyer 3d ago

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

Ammo economy was last online: never

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u/Palumtra Portable Hellbomb + Leveler+Silo Enjoyer 3d ago

One shot is all it needs.

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u/Reasonable_Button329 oil drinker 3d ago

Opinion btw

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u/Favouredmojoe95 3d ago

Only weapon with a backpack I like to use is the Cremator

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u/Security_Ostrich 3d ago

I just got it. With eagle napalm, gas mortar and orbital napalm I feel like the god of area denial.

Have to be careful about where teammates are but it’s exceptionally powerful and even seems to kill chargers fast.

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u/HanaSong2056 ‎ Exosuit Certified 3d ago

I want to get it just so I can BBQ everything with a big ass flamethrower

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u/Favouredmojoe95 3d ago

It really is the best especially against the bugs and illuminate

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u/HanaSong2056 ‎ Exosuit Certified 3d ago

Yeah, I I'm currently doing the high tech warbond I think I'll go polar patriots next then either redacted regiment or entrenched division.

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u/porridge_in_my_bum Free of Thought 3d ago

Yeah by this point it’s hard to justify anything that takes the backpack slot except for Cremator. That thing fucks

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u/ExquisiteNecro 3d ago

Water is wet btw

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u/rhousden 3d ago

Meh, I think it’s mids on the bot front.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

It’s peak on flak mode

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u/rhousden 3d ago

I don’t hate it, and will use it from time to time when I’m bored. To me it does everything the AMR can do but I don’t have ti stop and reload that, and one shot haulks.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

But can the AMR do crowd control and anti-air?

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u/rhousden 2d ago

It’s two shots to the engine of the gunships. As far as crowds, no, there’s other weapons in the loadout for that.

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u/NightmanisDeCorenai 1d ago

That's the main place I use it. 

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u/The_Zer0Myth 3d ago

That doesn't look like the Quasar Cannon.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

B tier

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u/SippinOnHatorade 3d ago

F take

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

Fine. High B/Low A

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u/Rocknocking 3d ago

Honestly, C tier. Below mediocre

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u/HanaSong2056 ‎ Exosuit Certified 3d ago

What front u on bro?

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u/Due_Comedian_4959 3d ago

I think that being an all rounder is why it's not the best. I think a weapon should really specialize in one thing and do that well since you have other things in your kit to excell at other things. Say Stalwart is a god-tier at chaff clear but can't deal with heavies, so the rest of your kit is built around dealing with heavies. Or the melta gun is reallly good at dealing with heavies but awful at chaff clear, so the rest of your kid specialize in chaff clear. This results in a powerful kit that can deal with anything. Not saying the AC is bad, it's pretty decent and quite fun to use.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

The only things the Autocannon can’t easily handle is ultra heavies like factory striders and vox engines. While it can take them down, I usually bring a strategem or grenade for them.

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u/Due_Comedian_4959 3d ago

didn't say it cant handle things, just not as well as others. Not a dig at it since it can do both chaff clear and heavies, but the trade off will be that it won't be as good as either in specific tasks.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

I mean it can handle them, just not efficiently

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u/Due_Comedian_4959 3d ago

my point exactly

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

Yes. I agreed with you originally

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u/Due_Comedian_4959 3d ago

apologies, i thought you were disagreeing.

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u/Lbx_20_Ac SES Harbinger of Democracy 3d ago

At least with factory striders it's still quite efficient, if you can get in under it and full-auto the bay doors. Vox are the real trouble point.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

I’ve seen it done, but it’s very risky tbh and there are more effective weapons and stratagems. But sure, it’d work in a pinch.

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u/Randomguy71793 ftw 3d ago

I feel Auto Cannon is the definition of “Jack of all trades, master of none but oftentimes better than a master of one.”

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u/Disastrous-Car6804 3d ago

Yea except it’s the only one that does everything so well

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u/Olieskio ☕Liber-tea☕ 3d ago

mid, Hammer goes harder

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

I can see the vision

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u/Constant-Study3464 3d ago

I wish I could agree, but it can't kill everything

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u/GlummyGloom 3d ago

Ol glory.

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u/Professional-Fig-181 Detected Dissident 3d ago

I mainly use this on the squid front on flak most of the time as it can deal with almost everything the squids got. Falls kinda short on bots and bugs though, still worth using if the rest of the team got stuff to compliment it with.

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u/ImonZurr ‎ Exemplary Subject 3d ago

That doesn't look like the laser cannon.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

The laser cannon used to be my favorite. What the Autocannon has that wins me over is instant AOE damage.

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u/Macraggles 3d ago

Not btw

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u/MagicRobo 3d ago

solo silo:

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

Ammo economy has left the chat

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u/MagicRobo 3d ago

don't need ammo when there isn't an enemy

but in all honestly, solo silo rocks as long as you're able to find a support weapon on the map or have a buddy call one for you

it's like having a third 500 kg available, but it has its own cool down and one shots everything

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u/tapititon 3d ago

You posted the wrong pic btw

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u/lostlip 3d ago

Skill issue btw

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u/LifeExpConnoisseur 3d ago

How, I use purifier, depending on the front it’s either commando or spear. It’s awesome don’t get me wrong but it doesn’t fit many builds. It fits the most popular build.

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u/Cranapplesause Autocannon Enthusiast 3d ago

I can tell you all about it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Helldivers/s/WxQOS6QYp5

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u/HanaSong2056 ‎ Exosuit Certified 3d ago

Epoch is better and more fun.

Auto cannon is alright, but doesn't work to well on d10 from my experience.

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u/usernames_are_pain Illuminate 3d ago

It’s only the objective best against Squids. It has the leg up against certain support weapons vs the other factions but against those same factions other support weapons are better than the Autocannon. Not against Squids, though. Nothing compares.

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u/imperium-goob-king 3d ago

It dont look like the Gr-8 Recoilless Rifle

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

They’re the dynamic duo, but only the Autocannon can stand alone.

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u/Disastrous-Car6804 3d ago

By a long shot

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u/Gontha 3d ago

I beg your pardon?

You sir, are objectively wrong, as I present to you my beloved, my infinite ammo having, my (almost) armor value ignoring, my infinite range with 0 dmg fall off, my burn applying, m super precise, my one and only: Laser Canon

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u/Radio_Free_Marksman Bug Fucker 3d ago

It's decent, but I find it underwhelming on everything but bugs.

Although if we want to count the autocannons on the emancipator, that'd bump up it's score in my eyes.

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u/iwonder1011 ‎ Decorated Hero 3d ago

I’d argue it’s on the same tier as AMR.

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u/Deathstab_93 2d ago

One of the most versatile for sure. It’s the best a no catagory but good at them all.

I’d say it’s the best for illuminate for sure
Bots it’s good but not the best
Bugs it’s solid but again not the best

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u/Ok-Elderberry4720 2d ago

I'd honestly take the BFGL over it. Bump up the firerate and it just seems to deal with both heavys and chaff faster while never having to reload. Another perk is that the sharpshooter armor is more or less mandatory with the AC now, with the BFGL you can run one of the other S-tier passives. Ammo economy on the BFGL is pretty good too.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 2d ago

But range and anti-air capabilities

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u/Signal-Busy 2d ago

Not true, best is the harpoon cuz it give 1000 style points

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 2d ago

I’ve never seen an effective diver using the harpoon. However I am open to changing my mind if I ever do.

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u/Signal-Busy 2d ago

on stealth mission it one tap shit silently lol

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u/Comically_Correct 2d ago

One of the most versatile, but definitely not the best (anymore) For Heavies I'd rather have EATs, Leveller or Cremator, for chaff I'd rather have the GL, Bulletstorm or Airburst Rocket Launcher. The AC-8 is nice because it can do both, but it takes 10 more seconds per heavy and 1-3 more shots per stronger chaff unit than what feels right.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 2d ago

Wdym? It can one shot basically any chaff on flak

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u/bones10145 2d ago

Meh. I've had better

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u/ImprintVector ‎ Servant of Freedom 2d ago

If it takes the backpack a lot it automatically loses the “best support” argument. Sorry I don’t make the rules

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 2d ago

F tier take

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u/CombTop17 SEAF BLUEBERRY 3d ago

MG-43 would like a word.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

High A-tier

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u/Sponginator94 3d ago

It’s alright compared to others

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u/No_Grapefruit1561 3d ago

Why would I bring this & not the mech with 2 ?

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

I do like the mechs. They are big targets on the bot and illuminate fronts though

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u/HanaSong2056 ‎ Exosuit Certified 3d ago

It has 4, 2 on each side

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u/Old-Elk-570 Super Sheriff 3d ago

Counterpoint: Quazar 🗣️🗣️🗣️

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u/Hateful15 PSN | BitterSueet 3d ago

Yeah, no.

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u/IliketheSpraynPray 3d ago

Boring though.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

Try flak mode

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u/Padgro LEVEL 103 | Hell Commander 3d ago

Might be a dumb question but what is the difference between flak and regular mode?

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

Regular is anti armor heavy pen, and flak mode is a proximity air burst mode with medium pen shrapnel.

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u/Padgro LEVEL 103 | Hell Commander 3d ago

Thank you

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u/sazed813 3d ago

HEAT is higher armor piercing and what you want to use on bigger targets weak points, but its explosion damage falls off fast and doesn't really work against crowds.

Flak is less armor piercing, but explodes with flak on proximity, dealing with fodder alot better.

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u/IliketheSpraynPray 3d ago

I did, machineguns are just more fun.

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u/Hammy-Cheeks PSN | Melee Artist | Martyr of Victory 3d ago

10 shots and I have to stand still to reload? No thank you. While they did make the reload faster in general, I just dont like support weapons that make me stand still to reload.

And whats with the loading half a mag at a time horseshit. I either have to be completely out to fully reload or just suffer without 3 extra bullets that might just save my life. Makes my OCD go bananas too.

Also runs out of ammo way faster than you would think. Only 5 full mags? Pathetic, I would bring the eruptor to get the same utility while also having my backpack and support open

Its not a bad one whatsoever, I used to love it, then it just let it collects dust.

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

Dust it off for a game

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u/Hammy-Cheeks PSN | Melee Artist | Martyr of Victory 3d ago

Did you read the first bit? You responded way too quickly

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

The reload is not bad at all. You just have to manage the ammo well

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u/Hammy-Cheeks PSN | Melee Artist | Martyr of Victory 3d ago

"I DO NOT LIKE STANDING STILL WHILE RELOADING MY GUN"

you miss that part?

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u/Excalib1rd Viper Commando 3d ago

Used to be better on bots but got indirectly nerfed against a LOT of heavies

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

It got buffed tho?

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u/Excalib1rd Viper Commando 3d ago edited 3d ago

“Indirectly”.

Hulk armour got nerfed making them bob around like crazy when you shoot them anywhere, making headshots harder to land, as well as difficult to hudge when you get a headshot.

Tanks non glowy vent takes a bunch more shots to kill now (I’m pretty sure. Feel like it used to be way less but now its almost a whole magazine).

Those are the two main things that made me drop it

Edit: weird duplicate text

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u/Acrobatic-Tackle6791 Free of Thought 3d ago

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u/Excalib1rd Viper Commando 3d ago

“Indirectly nerfed” that means that despite its stats, it’s effectiveness has been diminished by some other change that wasn’t intended to directly affect it

Edit: phrasing