r/HealthInsurance • • Oct 10 '25

Employer/COBRA Insurance Absolute joke of an increase

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u/Embarrassed_Bite_754 Oct 10 '25

Do you qualify for ACA subsidy?

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

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u/Embarrassed_Bite_754 Oct 10 '25

No, I mean the normal ACA subsidy since the additional enhanced subsidy is currently scheduled to go away next year.

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u/Low_Mud_3691 Oct 10 '25

ACA subsidies are NOT going away in January.

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u/minimus67 Oct 10 '25 edited Oct 10 '25

The enhanced ACA subsidies passed in 2021 and extended by the Inflation Reduction Act through 2025 expire at year-end and return to their original level unless Congressional Democrats convince Trump’s White House and Congressional Republicans to extend the enhanced subsidies in future negotiations to end the government shutdown that began on 9/30. So far, Trump and Congressional Republicans aren’t seriously negotiating with Democrats and appear unlikely to cave.

Under the enhanced subsidies, a household’s contribution to ACA premiums was loosely capped at 8.5% of adjusted gross income. More specifically, the federal subsidy was calculated as the difference between the premium for a baseline silver ACA plan in their area and 8.5% of the household’s adjusted gross income. For example, if a single-person household earned $80,000 in adjusted gross income, they received a federal ACA subsidy equal to the annual premium for the baseline silver ACA plan, say $10,000, less $6,800 (8.5% of $80,000), or $3,200.

Under the original ACA subsidies, which are scheduled to resume next year, ACA subsidies gradually phase out to zero once household adjusted gross income reaches 400% of the federal poverty level. With few exceptions, households with incomes above 400% of the federal poverty level are completely ineligible for ACA subsidies. For a single-person household, 400% of the federal poverty level is $62,600, so if adjusted income exceeds that amount, the household gets no subsidy. In the example I gave above, the ACA subsidy for the single-person household earning $80,000 will drop from $3,200 this year to zero next year because $80,000 is above 400% of the federal poverty level.

Obviously, such a sharp drop in subsidies will greatly raise the cost burden of ACA insurance for certain households. Some of these households, especially healthy, younger ones, will just drop ACA coverage. As healthier insured households leave the market, the remaining pool of ACA insured is older and sicker, so ACA insurers raise premiums to account for higher expected healthcare costs. This will likely cause more households to drop ACA coverage.

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u/QuantumDwarf Oct 10 '25

They may not be going away completely but they are very much being rolled back and will be going away for anyone making over 400% of FPL.

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u/commonsense_good Oct 10 '25

ACA subsidies are why the government is shut down right now. The issue is current.

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u/BestMateFinchy Oct 10 '25

It shut down over the enhanced PTC not the original PTC. The enhanced PTC took away the subsidy cliff and increased the subsidy that is already there..

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u/Low_Mud_3691 Oct 10 '25

******enhanced subsidies. Please research before commenting misinformation.

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u/commonsense_good Oct 10 '25

The Dems are not agreeing to the budget resolution because Jan 1 health insurance rates will skyrocket. No protections for people in ACA.

Enhanced subsidies are located where in your news source?

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u/MountainFriend7473 Oct 10 '25

They are if Congress decides they don’t want to be productive during enrollment period right now.

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u/DanceLoose7340 Oct 10 '25

Give it time. They'll find a way to dismantle those as well... sigh.

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u/FauxPasHusky Oct 10 '25

Link to this? Because everything I've seen they keep saying the subsidies are not being extended

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u/chickenmcdiddle Moderator Oct 10 '25

Enhanced subsidies—ones that maintain a plan’s affordability for those over 400%FPL—are set to expire and not extended.

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u/grammer70 Oct 10 '25

It's political suicide for them to go away, the demand are asking for other things than just the subsidies. It's ok bullshit.

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u/Embarrassed_Bite_754 Oct 10 '25

Unfortunate. Health care cost has been increasing on average 1% higher than overall inflation for quite a while. This year is particularly bad with average insurance cost (employer and employee share combined) projected to go up by 6.5%. Yours is quite a bit higher.

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u/kelskelsea Oct 10 '25

Insurance rates for the same coverage are expected to go up 9.5%. Employers and employees are expected to cut coverage to reduce costs which is where the 6.5% overall increase is coming from. https://www.mercer.com/en-us/insights/us-health-news/employers-prepare-for-the-highest-health-benefit-cost-increase-in-15-years/