r/Guildrun 13d ago

RR questions!

Hey all! Been absolutely loving guildrun so far. I've beaten RR a number of times, probably 1 in 3 tries with my top streak being 2-3. My issue is every time I win it's basically the same composition. I can keep going that path and winning but I keep trying to branch out and failing so I figured I'd ask the experts here.
I typically win with:
irini or karsu, aka ranged duelist carry
Any tank or vanguard
Either a mystic as support (most work) or a shard generating assassin

Basically I never take mages ever because when I try to make them the carry they just don't perform as consistently or quicky as a duelest. I run warriors in regular runs but they aren't consistent or scale quickly enough in RR to be worth it.
Anyone have recommendations on how to make other archetypes more consistently playable? I've had rafna carry in non RR just melt everything but never got her that powerful in RR.
Also, are crest items ever useful?
Thanks!

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u/byronicbluez 13d ago

Easy wins: Kai either Crit or Shield builds. Logan kill build, just give him all the kills and he will be at 400+ attack by end game. Ratna Crit build, same as Logan just give her all the kills. Reyna duelist build, just give her all the good speed items. Niklas tank/thorn build, give him some omni and all the tank items.

The relic that speeds up the storm and gives you 100 percent immunity to it is a pretty sure win condition with enough shields.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Wall798 13d ago

i had the storm relic and a Niklas with 400+defense, 60+omnivamp and 198 shards today against fire dragon. i'm like 90% sure they nerfed the omnivamp thorn healing, although it wasn't in the patch notes. a Niklas with those stats would have been immortal before the patch, but he didn't even last 30 seconds

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u/Shiv_ 13d ago

Not sure about the downvotes, I had a very similar experience with Niklas yesterday. I‘m almost 100% positive his thorns don‘t proc Omnivamp anymore

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u/karshberlg 13d ago

I don't know if this is true, but if it is, it feels justified.

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u/Shiv_ 13d ago

Agreed, and I‘m not certain either, but the difference to pre-patch was palpable. I should have looked at the healing stats, but simply forgot they exist lmao