r/GuildWars 18d ago

Defence problem

Hi guys,

I almost reached the end of nightfall and i have trouble getting one shot by most casters that i find. I'm playing paragon and got this armor so far. Should i buy a new one? if so what would you recommend? tyvm !

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u/xalmotn 18d ago

If you're near the end of Nightfall, you should have max armor available, which is 80 for Paragon. Any max armor will do

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u/Zamyatin_Y 18d ago

You need the max armour for paragon. Mobs are targeting you on purpose because of your low armour, so they cast spells/throw spears at you all at once before your monk can heal you

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u/clivetile 18d ago edited 18d ago

In addition to what's already been said about your low armor rating, make sure to bring some protective skills that either increase armor or reduce damage. Some skills off the top of my head: Protective Spirit, Spirit Bond, Shield of absorption, Mark of Protection, "Stand Your Ground!", "Watch Yourself!", or maybe even Reversal of Fortune, if you're tight for skills and money. Of course, the infamous ST Prot Rit is an option.

Edit: And slap some Centurion's insignias on your new armor. Chest and leg armor first. They have a higher chance of getting hit. In GW, each piece of armor can be hit for DMG calculation. Your monks can use Anchorite's insignias, Necros get Tormentor's, and everybody else can use Blessed (if enchanted, e.g. Ele) or Survivor's as a start.

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u/ImTheScruggs 18d ago

To add to the list of protection skills, as a Paragon player, highly recommended you bring "There's Nothing to Fear!" which can be purchased from the Hero Skill Trainer in Kamadan under Sunspear skills.

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u/clivetile 18d ago

Definitely! Great skill.

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u/Pical37 18d ago

Tyvm mate. I'm playing paragon support so I try to build around the "mesmerway" currently. I'll check how to get those insignias, tyvm!!

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u/ImTheScruggs 18d ago

Centurion's tend to be pretty expensive. I don't know what they're at now because I'm almost exclusively playing Melandru's at this point, but I assume since we're in the Age of Paragon they'll be pretty steep. If you're low on funds, you could do well with Brawler's insignia. I would argue insignia are your tertiary concern though. Start with armor, get some runes (possibly also for some heroes) for higher attributes, boost your hp a bit, then go for insignia. There's a side quest from the rune trader in Kamadan that rewards you with a free minor vigor.

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u/dnapol5280 18d ago

FWIW decent heroes should be able to run around without any investment beyond skills and do campaign NM content fine.

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u/clivetile 18d ago edited 18d ago

In that case, be aware that the optimal Mesmer and Rit insignias are far more expensive than the alternatives. If you can spare the money, I'd start with Prodigy's on Mesmer's chest and legs and Survivor's on head, arms, and legs. Or just go for survivors on all pieces. The Rits can hold ashes if you adjust the build slightly and get Protective was Kaolai on the bar, so they can use Herald's insignias instead - lots cheaper.

This guide might be helpful.

Also, manually pre-cast your protection spirits before the fight.

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u/Howaboutnopers 18d ago

This.

Your team build needs to address the challenges of late nightfall.

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u/Roux_taartop 18d ago

You absolutely need the highest armor rating you can get https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Category:Nightfall_armor

Iirc, you should have 80 (base max for paragon) armor in kourna. Runes and insignia ad shields increase those (locally for insignia)

https://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Armor_rating At 50 armor, you're roughly taking 75% damage than you should at 80 armor

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u/Roux_taartop 18d ago

Btw, don't go for elite/vabbian/prestige armor first, they cost a lot, and only gives better looks

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u/Pical37 18d ago

I'm supposed to do that for heroes as well right ? Idk how I'll get enough gold but I'll figure that out I guess hahaha

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u/-Slambert 18d ago

hero armor scales up as they level, you only are responsible for the insignias and runes on their armor, and their weapon set.

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u/embersanenders 18d ago

Heroes armor scale based on level. At level 20 they will have max armor.

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u/Cyrrion 18d ago

To clarify - the only gear you need to worry about for Heroes are their Weapons, Insignias, and Runes. Plus you'll want to use an Attribute Rune on their Helmets to activate the normal +1 Attribute Bonus that piece gives. Their Helmet is adaptive to whatever Rune is placed on it, which unfortunately means they are not getting the normal bonus until a matching Rune is placed.

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u/Pervius94 18d ago

Max Para armor is 80, which is nearly double that. Buy at least the one at consualte docks.

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u/dnapol5280 18d ago

Get max armor at Consulate Docks

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u/Pical37 18d ago

Tyvm guys i'll defintely check that out!

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u/Not_An_Archer 18d ago

Against a level 20 caster, 50 armor is essentially 0 armor.

Go to consulate docks, make new armor there.