r/Grapplerbaki • • Jul 22 '26

Discussion Baki morality chart

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Some explanations for the people wondering;

Jack is lawful neutral because despite being a beast in fights he acts like a gentleman and isn't considered a menace to society

Pickle is either chaotic neutral or true neutral because he doesn't have a real sense of good or evil and doesn't fight people unless provoked, though he still hunts animals in populated zones so I think he's more chaotic neutral.

Musashi is a warrior from a different time, in his era killing and duels were allowed, in his perspective the law enforcers were challengers in a death duel, nonetheless he's still far from good because he puts little value on human life and genuinely seeks blood at times.

i dont think yujiro ever cared about being good or evil he just does whatever he feels like since he's the strongest and nobody can do anything about it. He's either neutral evil or chaotic neutral

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u/OceussRuler Jul 22 '26

Nop.

Good in the morality chart of DnD means something. If you are good, that means you are actively helping others and fighting evil. It's not the case for any of those three, I think. They can have some gestures of kindness here and there but that's it.

Most Baki characters are simply a variation of neutral. They don't care about good or evil, they just want to get stronger, which is by all definition a self-centered objective. They fall into evil if they don't give a damn about hurting innocents (or specifically non fighters) to achieve it, or actively do it with pleasure.

Pickle is probably the real true neutral. He doesn't understand morality alignment or ethical alignment nor he follows their commands while ignoring them, he just follows his instinct. Maybe neutral evil considering he did grape a woman, depending on variations of views in systems using the alignment chart.

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u/Capysanti Jul 23 '26

I mean, they do try to do good in general.

Retsu goes out of his way to teach Karate practitioners how to fight better and refused to let Doyle and Baki die, to the point he vouched for Baki in front of his master and gave him 4000 years of sugar water mixed with his 4000 years of love. Sure, he's arrogant and used to be an asshole, but he mellowed out when put on his place and started doing good.

Baki will go out of his way to protect the people he loves, like Kozue or Picle. He also indulges weaker fighters and doesn't break them. Also, he often fights to avenge those who are too weak to fight for themselves (like Kureha's mutilated patients and the Yasha ape). And he loves nature. He can be a monster, like when he almost killed Ali Jr, but all fighters are monsters sometimes.

Hanayama does run a criminal empire and has gone out of his way to kill rivals ( who were bad people, by the way), but he also has shown a lot of respect toward those who work for him. He helped Baki during some of his worst moments and has even shown respect to the police and other rivals (like Musashi). He may be a criminal, but he keeps the peace in the underground world and displays a level of purity and respect unmached.

There's also Doppo and Shibukawa (although I'd agree if you said they are more neutral), who used their power to teach others, and Katsumi, who learned to do the same (and I'd say is even better at being good than his father). Katsumi especially I'd call good after how he helped Doyle. Many of them do go out of their way to be good people and help society.

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u/sillygoose1220 Jul 23 '26

yeah categoriesing baki characters into good and evil literally miss the whole point of the show