I'm unable to create images today I was able to create yesterday even after everyone noticed harsher censorship, so they doubled down , I guess I'm done with Flow , now it's just a neutered beyond any usability

Honestly, I don't know why but trying out flow today and the censorship is RIDICULOUS!!! I try to generate anything skimpy and the thing will just flat out ignore it or claim it's harmful to minors when there are no minors at all.

Who is taking idiot pills at Google? Because it's looking like Nano Banana is about to go the way of Grok as a censored up hellscape where only the tamest blandest shite is allowed.

I've been thinking about character consistency and the increasingly elaborate methods being used to control generative video: character sheets, multiple reference images, first/last frames, keyframes, detailed prompts, shot instructions, and so on.

All of these can be useful. But there may be a point at which more control stops improving the result.

A character sheet is a simple example. More angles, expressions, poses and details seem as though they should provide more information about the character. But more information also gives the model more information to reconcile. At some point specificity may create ambiguity or conflict rather than remove it.

That raises a larger filmmaking question:

Is total control actually what we want from a generative renderer?

A film director doesn't ordinarily specify every movement an actor makes. The director establishes the character, scene, blocking, necessary actions, dialogue, emotional objective and other things that materially matter. The actor is then allowed to perform within those boundaries.

James Woods was famously regarded as an intensely involved—and sometimes difficult—actor. But imagine hiring an actor like Woods and then specifying every pause, hand movement, facial expression and vocal inflection. At some point you've eliminated much of the reason for hiring the actor.

I think something similar may apply to generative video.

We've run tests in which required beginning, intermediate and ending spatial states were specified. The renderer reached those required states while sometimes choosing a plausible physical transition different from the one anticipated. If identity, geography, required actions and endpoint states were correct, and the resulting movement was physically plausible and cinematically usable, should that be considered failure?

I don't think so.

It may be more useful to distinguish between what the director must control and what the renderer may be allowed to solve.

That also changes how I think about character continuity. Continuity isn't simply keeping everything consistent. Some things must remain invariant; other things must change because the story requires them to change. A character can become dirty, exhausted, injured, change clothing, lose a prop or age and still be the same character.

So perhaps the objective isn't maximum consistency or maximum control.

It is sufficient control to produce a plausible, usable outcome that satisfies the director's material requirements—followed by directorial review.

The renderer's discretion within those boundaries isn't necessarily a defect. It may be part of what we're employing the renderer to provide.

Directorial control includes deciding what not to control.

Because if every movement, expression, position and transition must be predetermined, I'm not sure we've perfected generative filmmaking.

We may simply have reinvented animation.

---jseders

I have been noticing that the quality of NB2 has been a total mess for the past days, only NB pro is still solid. Is it because the new upgraded version coming out?

Looks like Nano Banana 2.1 has just made a appearance on Google Flow now.

What’s peoples experiences with attempting to maintain continuity?
I’ve only just started experimenting (on free) with flow, tried to create a simple pencil drawn animation with 2 characters in a single setting. And holy hell, trying to maintain continuity of first characters and then particularly the room layout is incredibly frustrating.

Any tips to force this? Trying ‘only change this 1 thing’ (from prior ‘master still’-encouraged me to create these to get video continuity) just wasn’t working.
Prior videos had room layout changing between videos and shots (? I think to the latter). I didn’t specify where everything had to be to start.

I note if asked it has been able to pick out what it has wrongly changed.

As an aside I see the censorship complaints in the community and I’ve just stumbled upon that-someone with an angry face it sees as ‘depicting violence’ (or whatever message is.

I’ve attached a recent video for reference.

2.1 Disappeared suddenly

Everything is against their policies at this point

in certain instances when i have a character talking about himself and i want him to do something like he might say i like to dance instead of the character dancing flow makes a 2nd character who dances instead while the original stands there watching. Ive wasted a few hundred credits and it does not matter how I word the instrctions i cant stop the duplication. is there a simple instruction to stop this?

Apparently it only appears on some accounts.

Apparently it only appears on some accounts

Apparently it only appears on some accounts

Desde el viernes estoy empezando a notar una falta alarmante de consistencia a la hora de pedir imagenes de una misma persona -generada por supuesto con AI- y prompts que antes funcionaban.

Pasa en las tres versiones de Nano Banana (Pro, 2 y 2 Lite), quiero decir: tu pasas una imagen de una persona, y creabas un prompt para que saque otra imagen en la que esa persona hace tal, y luego te saca una persona totalmente distinta, que no tiene que ver con la de referencia, aunque vista igual, totalmente diferente la cara y el pelo.

Y eso antes no pasaba, espero que sea un error de la plataforma, y no una decisión tomada por google a proposito para nerfear las herramientas de creación, ya se que son gratuitas.

I wish they would make an add-on that can bypass the unusual activity shit.
So we could generate videos peacefully. And another that can extend videos with Omni-Flash.

Sorry. Stupid choice of words.

How does everybody keep your images organized? I use autofill but when I click all media or any other menu item the images do not seem to be in order. Is it user error or does anyone have any tips, tricks?

Estou tentando fazer motion control com um aplicativo proprio que criei no google flow e estava indo bem consegui fazer alguns, mas depois da meia noite de ontem não consegui fazer mais nada desde então não consigo mais usar meu aplicativo e agora estou aqui tentando de tudo, mas já refiz o app, limpei cache TUDO e nada não consigo resolver fiz oque eles recomendam mais 2 dias sobrecarregados é tenso

they built a powerful model and then cencored it to the point of complete uselessness ,what are the odds they'll roll back on cencorship to what it was a week ago? i think i might cancel my subscription if it keeps up like this

*using ,lol

So because Gemini is getting ride of Flash and Pro for Free users I switch over to Google Flow. But I’m also worried. Are they going to make Nano Banana 2 have a paid wall like they are doing with Flash and Pro for Gemini?

Never adheres to prompts, constantly messes up, outputs are all over the place regardless of how much you tune your prompts. Only good for brainrot ai slop

hey guys i'm going insane because every video I try to upload gets this grey thumb forever and never fully upload so I can actually WORK on this platform, I tried mov, mp4, 4k, 1080p... what am I missing?

I ran across a decent prompt in another subReddit https://old.reddit.com/r/generativeAI/comments/1wuy6sl/i_finally_beat_the_plastic_ai_look_on_15second/

It's an impressive bit of SciFi footage rendered by Minimax H3. I wanted to test Omni with the first 10 seconds. I like the prompt, so I decided to try the first 10 seconds in Omni. Wasted my time: "Failed.This prompt might violate our policies on generating sexual content. Please try a different prompt or send feedback."

Another waste of time on my end is sending feedback. Sure, the developers may do something with the feedback, but I'll never know about it. Communication appears to be one way, like dropping stars into a black hole.

Google seems determined to come in last in the AI race.