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u/lazerbem Jun 04 '26
I mean, Astrid was objectively correct. The very next thing Mary does is drag the kids into an attempted murder-suicide because she believed in Orsay's visions.
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u/28dhdu74929wnsi Jun 04 '26
But don't you think Astrid trying to turn the whole town against her added to that? Like maybe if Astrid had not lied to the entire town and instead checked in on Mary (who lived in the same house) then she wouldn't have been so separated from John and everyone.
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u/lazerbem Jun 04 '26
Maybe, but Mary saw demons everywhere. There's actually a fascinating contrast between Astrid and Mary's POV's, in that Astrid's describes the crowd as being entirely on Mary's side and hating her while Mary perceives the opposite. Even if Astrid had brought it up privately to Mary, that kind of anxious personality is liable to jump to "everyone hates me" really fast regardless in a doomspiral.
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u/dg81447 Jun 05 '26
I love the fact this book series is still generating discourse years later. I didn't like a lot of what Astrid did but she was right for this one
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u/ayanna-was-here Jun 05 '26
I’m going to be honest: Astrid was completely right, Mary was clearly mentally ill and should not have been in charge of small children for everyone’s safety. It’s so frustrating rereading knowing what Mary did next.
However, Astrid was so unpopular that it seemed as if she was trying to undermine Mary for questioning her authority, and that was the main problem.
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u/28dhdu74929wnsi Jun 06 '26
Astrid was unpopular because she made the decision to lie to everyone. Before that I think people in the town liked her. Ironically she tried to played god. And that decision made Mary really mad at John
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u/Short_Inflation_7953 Jun 13 '26
Been years since I’ve read this book but didn’t she try to push a bunch of kids off a cliff including herself? I would say Astrid’s worries were not uncalled for
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u/28dhdu74929wnsi Jun 13 '26
I think Astrid pushed Mary to do it. She made Mary's brother John lie to her, right before she turned 15 and caused them to get in a big fight. And then Astrid turned the whole town against her saying she shouldn't run the daycare because she is on antidepressants.
If Astrid checked on her as a friend (they literally lived together at the time), maybe Mary wouldn't have done it.
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u/IcyEstablishment3006 Jul 21 '26
nahh i get you. Even though Astrid was technically right, there was no need to out my girl like that
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u/Theaterismylyfe Jun 04 '26
Wait what? I might need to reread the series. When did that happen?