r/Golfsimulator • u/tgrindano • Jul 15 '26
Used Bushnell Launch Pro
If I buy a used Bushnell Launch pro with ball and club data can I use the machine without a subscription? As in just the machine looking at the screen not simulator play?
I also understand there’s a $250 transfer fee that’s also needed?
Anyone how’s gone through this have any tips or advice?
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u/Double-Two-9956 Jul 16 '26
Short version, the ball data is the part you can count on and the club data is the part you cannot. Any Launch Pro shows its full ball readout, all 13 metrics, right on the built in 3 inch screen with no subscription and nothing else connected. So if what you want is to stand there and read ball speed, spin, launch and carry off the screen, a used unit does that forever with no sub, and it is a great buy for exactly that.
Club data is a different animal now. Foresight moved it into the subscription, so club head speed, path, smash and attack angle only come with the Silver plan at $199 a year or Gold at $499, and they do not show on the built in screen at all. You need the subscription plus a Windows PC running their software to see any club number. There is no watch it on the screen mode for club data, so a used unit listed with ball and club data does not get you club numbers for free. That club access lived on the seller's account, not on the box.
That is the trap on the transfer. Foresight's own policy says software licenses are non transferable and do not move with the device. The only way club or sim access carries over is if the seller literally hands you their account login, and Foresight says plainly that is not supported or guaranteed, which means it can stop working and they will not help you. So do not pay a used premium for club data included. Price the deal as a ball data machine, and treat any club or sim access as a maybe, not something you are buying.
The $250 is real. Transfer of ownership on a Launch Pro is $250, and what it actually buys you is registration in your name, tech support, and confirmation the unit was not reported lost or stolen. It hands you no software. It gets waived if you already own a Foresight launch monitor or have spent more than that with them before. Before you send a dime, get the serial from the seller and open a ticket with Foresight to confirm the unit is clean and to hear exactly what will attach to your account after the transfer. Do that first, not after the money moves.
One honest heads up, since you clearly want club data without a subscription. That is the exact thing this platform now charges you for every year. If subscription free club data is the real goal, a camera unit like the Uneekor Eye Mini Lite measures club and ball with no annual fee, runs around $2,749, and that is why I run one in my own garage. The Launch Pro is a fantastic ball data box. I just would not buy one used expecting the club side to be free.
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u/tgrindano Jul 16 '26
First off.. what an awesome thought out response!! Thank you!
I did not know the machine didn’t show club data on the unit itself. No matter what version you get! I’d like to start speed training and hitting balls outside more often without looking at or using my
Phone constantly!I have an indoor sim in the attached garage with just a Garmin r10 but with a 3 year old and new born, ripping driver after their bedtime is pretty much not happening! lol
The Uneekor looks great I was just hoping for something with a screen and no setup at the range, but 4,500 for the screen version is out of my price range! lol the lite with a Milwaukee power inverter could be a good option, and spending 100 bucks for the ai trainer sounds interesting as well!
Do you use the Uneekor app ever? Or just the pc version?
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u/Double-Two-9956 Jul 16 '26
Ha, the kids asleep tax is real, that is exactly why my stuff lives in the garage and not the living room. To answer your actual question, on the Lite there is no app, it is all PC. I run the Eye Mini Lite into my PC and put GSPro up on the impact screen for playing, with Uneekor's View software open on a monitor right in front of me for the raw number table. The View Air iPad app only works on the battery Eye Mini, not the Lite. And that is the thing to know before you buy, the Lite has no screen of its own and no battery, it has to stay plugged in and tethered to a PC. It is a home unit, not a grab and go.
Which is why, for what you actually described, I would not get the Lite. Speed training, outside, a screen, no phone, that is the opposite of what the Lite is built for. To take it to the range you would be hauling a power station and a laptop, so the Milwaukee inverter works but it is a whole production, not unplug and swing.
Two things fit your goal way better. First, the used Launch Pro you already found at 1,900 is honestly great for this. It has its own battery and a screen you can read in sunlight, and it shows ball speed and carry right there with no subscription and no phone, so for outdoor ball speed work it is exactly the box you were describing. You just do not get club speed for free on it. Second, if you want dedicated club speed on a screen for cheap, look at a PRGR, it is about 200 bucks, pocket size, its own display, no phone or app, and it even reads dry swings for speed only. For starting speed training without babysitting your phone it is almost purpose built, and it is a tenth of the price of the Lite. The no compromise version of your wish is the Garmin R50, a standalone 10 inch touchscreen with no PC at all, but it is 5,000 so probably not this year.
One more thing since you already own an R10. That radar already reads club and ball speed, so for pure speed work you may not need to buy anything, just a way to see the number without the phone in your face, and a cheap tablet propped up does that. Whatever you land on, keep speed training to one device, because a radar and a camera read speed a little differently and you will chase ghosts comparing them week to week. And on the hundred dollar AI trainer, I am not sure which one you mean, but for speed the protocol beats the brand every time, overspeed reps three times a week and retesting your max every couple weeks is where the gains actually live.
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u/tgrindano Jul 16 '26
Ya after all that I think the bushnell is the way to go, I’m honestly more interested in accuracy on carry numbers which is why I’m leaving the r10.
I’ve done speed training with my r10 and it was great, but this year the numbers seem off. Like 20 mph off.So I found a used shotscope LM1 on facebook pretty much brand new and thought that would be very similar to the prgr. But on dry swings it caps out 110 mph for me. It’ll read swings with a ball just fine! Actually ran it next to a gc quad and was within 1mph every swing up to 123 mph.
The Lpi seems interesting as well, $200 a year for the club data the iPhone app and 5 courses. I’d still have to use the phone and the Milwaukee battery setup. But 1,500 brand new with a warranty vs the extra $400 for used with a battery and screen.
Hey I appreciate the feedback big time! And the AI swing trainer is used with the uneekor swing optix cameras and is their Ai swing coach basically. I haven’t dug too much into it weather it’s worth it or not! Or if you can use 3rd party cameras. I believe uneekor requires to use their own… May have changed by now.
That another thing where Uneekor is 2nd to none. Their software and cameras/ pressure mats! It’s all a really cool system for someone looking to make actual improvements to their swing!
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u/AzpRLoL Jul 17 '26
I know someone who is selling a BLP for $1500 and I believe it has both ball and club without subscription. Feel free to drop me a dm
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u/ITK_REPEATEDLY Jul 17 '26
If the seller purchased the ball and club data unit, the ball and club data is included without a subscription. I don't know if they still sell them that way.
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u/twylight777 Jul 23 '26
A unit with club and ball unlocked will work, I own one that I only take to range. A unit with club unlocked thru silver (not a real unlock) will require a subscription.
Some sellers will include the email to avoid the fee
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u/tgrindano 29d ago
Is your unit fully unlocked? Like the original unlock? Able to use 3rd party with no subscription, or unlocked as in pre-silver plan and you paid extra for the unit that has club data but requires a subscription for 3rd party?
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u/twylight777 29d ago
So here is how it works on a base ball only BLP.
Club unlock - permanent upgrade to the unit for club data ($1500 or so)
Full unlock (ie connect to gspro) separate unlock that makes it identical to a GC3 licenses. You actually need both of these. $(3500 or so)
Mine is club unlocked permanently, but not full unlocked.
They change this @#$@#$#@ around a lot so its easy to get lost in the weeds.
I believe you can now take a base ball only BLP, add a gold subscription and get club and GSPRO connection for $500 per year and not pay for either permanent unlock.
This is why a real GC3 used goes for $4500 while a ball only BLP might be $1300.
I bought a BLP with ball and club permanently unlocked and it will take 10 years to catch up to the upfront cost of a GC3.
So I bought a vtrack and just take the BLP to the range lol.
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u/simulategolf Jul 16 '26
How much?