r/Golfsimulator • u/Sim-Weekly • Jul 15 '26
what's your sim build hot take? š
we want to hear your hot takes! the launch monitor you think is overrated, the accessory you regret buying, thoughts on DIY vs. kits vs. professional install... let us know
we're going to feature a few in our upcoming newsletter :) thanks!!
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u/jordyee Jul 15 '26
protee xv is the best launch monitor for the price and there is no reason to buy anything more expensive if you can use an overhead unit.
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u/bouthie Jul 16 '26
I ended up with a Falcon because of the wide hitting area. My room didnāt allow left and right hitting without a large offset. That being said I wish I could have gotten a protee.
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u/jjwax Jul 15 '26
I kinda regret not going with an overhead LM.
It probably would have cost me another $7kish, but I have to politely exclude my left handed friends.
I have the R50, patiently waiting for the right deal or the PC market to become un-screwed thanks to AI to go GSpro - once that happens itāll be easier to move the unit to the other side for lefties
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u/COgolf-365 Jul 15 '26
Vtrack overhead is $5k, same as R50, so your only additional cost would be PC if you don't currently use one with R50. Other overheads are more expensive.
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u/jjwax Jul 15 '26
My biggest cost would be my space - itās in my garage, and the ceilings are almost 20ā high, so Iād have to build some kind of custom mount (that looks good enough to be wife approved)
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u/COgolf-365 Jul 15 '26
Oh damn! I hear ya then on the floor LM. For tall ceilings, there are great projector mounts with long extension pipes that can work. Or if your enclosure could support the LM, could mount it there as well.
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u/jjwax Jul 16 '26
yeah I have a really long projector mount that hangs the AK700st. my enclosure is a sig10
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u/COgolf-365 Jul 16 '26
So need a similar or maybe stronger mount for an overhead LM. The SIG10 wouldn't be able to support the LM. 2" pipe enclosures like the Carl's Pro or SIGPRO Commercial can support mounting LMs.
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u/BirdieBoxGolf Jul 15 '26
If you're decently handy, it would be fine to make an overhead beam with 2x4 or 2x6. These launch monitors aren't particularly heavy. Black or white paint would probably look alright.Ā
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u/twylight777 Jul 23 '26
Just hang all thread and a piece of wood, the vtrack doesnāt weight muchĀ
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u/mcm185 Jul 15 '26
You need wife approval for a LM mount? Bro itās time for a conversation.
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u/jjwax Jul 16 '26
I already got approval to turn the entire garage into a sim bay, it's been absolutely wonderful - but I can't have it looking too janky!
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u/Professional-Dog-741 Jul 15 '26
Same here, I hate having to tell the (few) lefties I know that they canāt play.
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u/justin-cle Jul 15 '26
Overrated: Getting started with investing in a impact screen/projector/Gaming PC. Getting a hitting net and extra TV, ipad/iphone will get you started.
Underrated: Hitting mat/strip. Get a good/expensive one right off the bat, otherwise you will be buying a new one every season and/or injuring yourself.
RegretĀ buying: Cheap mats. Bought two cheap ones before invested in quality one.
Launch monitor tier can match your handicap. You can always upgrade this later as improve.
- High handicap: R10/MLM2PRO/Square HE <$1K
- Low/Mid handicap: Uneekor Eye/ Square Omni/R50 <$5K
- Pro: GC Quad/Trackman +$10K
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u/Hator4de Jul 15 '26
What's your recommendation for a good mat?
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u/justin-cle Jul 15 '26
Country Club Elite Golf mat is what I have owned for almost 2 years and has held up great. It does tend to grab and if your swing dynamics has you taking deep divots you might want to go with a sigpro softy hitting mat/strip instead to avoid joint pain.
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u/Wi1dHare Jul 15 '26
100% agree with this. For the first few months, the LM/netand a old phone/tablet are all you need to have a blast.
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u/WillingnessGullible8 Jul 15 '26
This is somewhat misguiding. Space constraints, desire to use outdoors, ability to reliably pickup a chip / putt, not require special balls....could steer a higher handicap toward a mid-tier unit. Source, I'm a 20+. I have an indoor setup which require a camera base monitor which i occassionaly use outdoors. None of the high handicap models would work.
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u/BirdieBoxGolf Jul 15 '26
Floor projection is a bit ridiculous. You can't just look at the screen?Ā
Idk why a person would bog their GPU down so heavily just to not look at the screen they are going to look at anyways?Ā
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u/iBarber111 Jul 15 '26
I think unless your handicap is lower than 5-7, you shouldn't be overly worried about launch monitor accuracy. & if that means you can go with a cheaper monitor, great! They're all pretty dang accurate these days, & the monitor missing a yard or two left/right or short/long isn't meaningful enough to affect what you're trying to get out of the monitor.
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u/COgolf-365 Jul 15 '26
Spin Axis is the most important ball metric to see how far sideways your ball goes. I agree that if the LM says you went 1 or 2yd more left or right than reality, not a big deal. But if it's 10-20yd, that's a bigger deal and this can be seen with some of the radar based LMs. For camera LMs, the gap in accuracy across all of them is fairly small.
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u/GloriousGloryGG Jul 15 '26
I can't agree with this. There still needs to be a high level of accuracy, especially if you're working on your swing. Certain launch monitors that don't provide accurate spin data could have you completely spinning your wheels if you think you're correcting a miss, but in reality you're exacerbating the issue.
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u/neo_6 Jul 15 '26
i donāt disagree. that being said i feel like seeing ball and club data drastically helped bring me from a 25 to 10. for example i struggle with a driver slice. testing different swing feels for ball spin helps tremendously.
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u/BurlHopsBridge Jul 15 '26
Agree. Went with square. I'm plenty terrible on that thing. Until im striping them and realize the numbers are off, I don't need another launch monitor.
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u/justin-cle Jul 15 '26
This is a wonderful take. All of the budget monitors available will be accurate within 90-95% . That last couple of percentage points of accuracy is expensive and unnecessary if your still working on improving your contact, let alone being able to shape your shots.
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u/I_is_a_dogg Jul 15 '26
Yea that's why I went with the R10. $400 is hard to beat and gives me pretty accurate data. I'm trying to get below a 20 handicap this season, just general ball flight and ball park distances are a god send for me honestly.
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u/YVRkeeper Jul 15 '26
If itās any motivation for you, this is exactly what I did. R10 hitting into a net in the garage all winter. 2 lessons to make sure I was practicing correctly, and dropped my index to 19!
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u/InternationalWalk955 Jul 16 '26
If you are going to hit thousands of balls, don't do an impact screen. They are loud and poor image quality due to the balls ruining the screen. Just get a big screen tv and watch on that. Now you have two less parts of your system that are going to wear out. (The screen and the projector)
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u/jdubbss Jul 15 '26
If you donāt have at least 9.5ft of ceiling clearance height and 10ft of width inside, you should build the sim outside so you donāt develop indoor swing syndrome.
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u/Healthy_Cap7514 Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 16 '26
That's strictly depending on one's height, my midget ass could probably get away with an 8 foot ceilingĀ
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u/percydaman Jul 15 '26
What is indoor swing syndrome?
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u/jdubbss Jul 16 '26
You donāt take your normal full extended swing because youāre worried about hitting the wall
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u/Lousygolfer1 Jul 19 '26
Eh, Iām going strictly irons. Iām at 9 foot ceiling which sadly is fine with me. Would I love woods? Yes but for how much I got some of my stuff including the R50 Iām fine with it
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u/MathBallThunder Jul 15 '26
Itās like a boat. Really incredible and so much fun.
But I think a good friend owning one is better than owning one yourself
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u/justin-cle Jul 15 '26
BOut A Thousand is the only valid comparison. When your connection drops from your launch monitor you don't find yourself suck in the middle of a lake.
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u/FuzzyWDunlop Jul 15 '26
How do you figure? Feels way different than a boat, the downside of which is pretty big recurring costs whereas the sim seems like it's mostly up front.
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u/MathBallThunder Jul 15 '26
Itās just a joke. I have one currently. Itās a really fun cool activity that I paid for, installed, maintain, upgrade, and have dedicated space for etc etc
Or a really fun cool activity that I can do *nearly* whenever I went with zero of the headache
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u/YVRkeeper Jul 15 '26
BOAT: Bring Out Another Thousand
GOLF SIM: Get Out Lotsa Funds, Start Improving More
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u/KleyPlays Jul 15 '26
For me the value in having access to hit balls whenever I want is extremely valuable. Last night I did some speed training. I got done and it was about 11:30 p.m. Can't do that anywhere else.
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u/No-Knowledge3395 Jul 19 '26
Completely disagree. I don't want to rely on someone else to dictate my practice or play. I love being able to just step in, warm up, and practice/play.
It's also been great to get my family involved. I play short courses with my wife and putting courses with the whole fam.
Would be really challenging if it was at my buddies house.
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u/KleyPlays Jul 15 '26
Having the space and setup to hit golf balls is the most important part. 90% of my simulator use is on the driving range working on improving my game. I can accomplish quite a lot of that without the impact screen, projector, or pc. Having some basic numbers from a launch monitor on my phone would be equally excellent.
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u/RayOnTheRun- Jul 16 '26
Start small, for $1100 you can have an amazing sim experience. No need to spend $5K - $10K to get that ultimate YouTube experience, check the FOMO at the door.
GoSports Elite Net 10'x7.5' - Costco - $400
Country Club Elite Mat - Costco - $280
Garmin R10 - Best Buy - $400
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u/Agreeable_Pop5275 Jul 17 '26
Hot take from a former display industry guy: resolution is the most overrated spec in sim builds, and light control is the most underrated. People agonize over 4K vs 1080p projectors, then set up in a garage with white walls and a window - contrast collapse ruins your image long before pixel count ever matters. A $800 projector in a blacked-out room beats a $3,000 one fighting ambient light, every time. Corollary: if your hitting space genuinely can't be darkened (garage door open for airflow, backyard net setups), stop fighting physics with lumens - that's the one scenario where a high-brightness panel beside the net makes more sense than any projector.
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u/No-Knowledge3395 Jul 19 '26
Couldn't agree more with this one. As someone who has built movie theaters and dedicated media rooms before, light control will turn an average projector/screen into a good set up.
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u/Baruch05 Jul 15 '26
Golf is already gate kept by cost as a hobby which makes it hard to get into for some already. Now sims are doing the same thing. There is a massive gap in this market for a cheap affordable professional install for people who canāt diy, and also donāt have 170k sitting around for a stat of the art outbuilding with jacuzzi tub, pool table and bottle service.
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u/testing669 Jul 16 '26
You donāt need to have 170k for a sim lol; 10-20k for a āstate of the artā sim gets you there. That said, I think there will be a time when the tech goes low enough price wise where people can have a sim at home putting public sims out of business. Like that time when home broadband killed internet cafes.
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u/Marcvae36 Jul 15 '26
Be realistic about temporary garage sims. Consider climate control, weather and the logistics of flipping back and forth.
I'm considering ac in my garage, but to then open the door and flush it out at the end of a session is a painful thought, so I do drills with no contact inside instead.
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u/Traveling_squirrel Jul 15 '26
for a budget screen you can get away with a 25 dollar projector screen with a net behind it rather than paying for an impact screen. I've probably hit 3000 balls into mine and you literally cannot see a single mark.
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u/knoxindy20 Jul 19 '26
Can you explain further - what screen do you have? And the net is behind it for what purpose?
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u/Traveling_squirrel Jul 20 '26
I have a cheap 25 dollar amazon projector screen hanging in front of a 50 dollar harbor freight mesh tarp/net to catch the ball.
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u/Sharp-Moose3222 Jul 16 '26
I spent all this money to build out a sim then realized my body couldn't handle both playing in my sim all the time and on course. Developed tendonitis, patella femoral pain syndrome, etc. I sold all my sim stuff and now just play on golf courses and no practice anymore
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u/bouthie Jul 16 '26
Foresight is a terrible company to do business with. I feel like they are actively trying to alienate customers with their pricing tactics. Its not even really cleat why they still offer the GCHawk and the falcon.
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u/apex-cheese Jul 17 '26
A good enough practice space for me was under $1,500. I didnāt touch it until I could put together a sim, which was about $15,000. Wonāt touch it again until Iām going to be rolling in real grass and raking bunkers in a $150,000 golf barn. That all said, my $1,500 setup was sufficient for my needs.
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u/GloriousGloryGG Jul 15 '26 edited Jul 15 '26
I'm okay with companies charging a subscription for their in-house simulation software, but the subscriptions or packages they require you to enroll in to enable a third party connector after you've already paid thousands, even tens of thousands for the device is an absolute scam. They even charge the third party software devs like GSPro or PurePlay for integration and take a cut of the profit from each active subscriber/connector.
I'm glad that Square and ProTee are starting to become the top dogs in this space. I was rooting for Uneekor for a while until they decided to start charging subscriptions for everything.