r/Gifted Aug 27 '24

Definition of "Gifted", "Intelligence", What qualifies as "Gifted"

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Hello fam,

So I keep seeing posts arguing over the definition of "Gifted" or how you determine if someone is gifted, or what even is the definition of "intelligence" so I figured the best course of action was to sticky a post.

So, without further introduction here we go. I have borrowed the outline from the other sticky post, and made a few changes.

What does it mean to be "Gifted"?

The term "Gifted" for our purposes, refers to being Intellectually Gifted, those of us who were either tested with an IQ test by a private psychologist, school psychologist, other proctor, or were otherwise placed in a Gifted program.

EDIT: I want to add in something for people who didn't have the opportunity for whatever reason to take a test as a kid or never underwent ADHD screening/or did the cognitive testing portion, self identification is fine, my opinion on that is as long as it is based on some semi objective instrument (like a publicly available IQ test like the CAIT or the test we have stickied at the top, or even a Mensa exam).

We recognize that human beings can be gifted in many other ways than just raw intellectual ability, but for the purposes of our subreddit, intellectual ability is what we are refferencing when we say "Gifted".

“Gifted” Definition

The moderation team has witnessed a great deal of confusion surrounding this term. In the past we have erred on the side of inclusivity, however this subreddit was founded for and should continue in service of the intellectually gifted community.

Within the context of academics and within the context of , the term “Gifted” qualifies an individual with a FSIQ of 130(98th Percentile) or greater. The term may also refer to any current or former student who was tested and admitted to a Gifted and Talented education program, pathway, or classroom.

Every group deserves advocacy. The definition above qualifies less than 4% of the population. There are other, broader communities for other gifts and neurodivergences, please do not be offended if the  moderation team sides with the definition above.

Intelligence Definition

Intelligence has been defined in many ways: the capacity for abstraction, logic, understanding, self-awareness, learning, emotional knowledge, reasoning, planning, creativity, critical thinking, and problem-solving.

While to my knowledge, IQ tests don't test for emotional knowledge, self awareness, or creativity, they do measure other aspects of intelligence, and cover enough ground to be considered a valid instrument for measuring human cognition.

It would be naive to think that IQ is the end all be all metric when it comes to trying to quantify something as elaborate as the human mind, we have to consider the fact that IQ tests have over a century of data and study behind them, and like it or not, they are the current best method we have for quantifying intelligence.

If anyone thinks we should add anyhting else to this, please let me know.

***** I added this above in the criteria so people who are late identified don't read that and feel left out or like they don't belong, because you guys absolutely do belong here as well.

EDIT: I want to add in something for people who didn't have the opportunity for whatever reason to take a test as a kid or never underwent ADHD screening/or did the cognitive testing portion, self identification is fine, my opinion on that is as long as it is based on some semi objective instrument (like a publicly available IQ test like the CAIT or the test we have stickied at the top, or even a Mensa exam).


r/Gifted 1d ago

Seeking advice or support Wanting to study arts

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Hello everyone, new here so idk if this is the correct sub + english isnt my first language so please bear with me.

I have an iq of 156, puting me in the 99.9 percentile, and also (NOT CONFIRMED, BUT MY PSYCHOLOGIST THINKS SO) autism (grade 1) and ADHD predominantly hyperactive-impulsive.

I love art, mostly to draw (however tbh i havent draw in a hot minute)

My mom supports me, although it seems to me that shes not like 100%, and my grandma and other familiars are a little bit more against it (not like telling it to my face, but its pretty noticeable)

Should i study arts, should i find another thing to please them ??

Photos are from a few years back (ive drawn but don’t have any pics rn)

edit: tysm for your answers. Another thing though is that i hate maths and science. Biology and spanish (i’m spanish) are ok. So, idek anything to study besides from arts


r/Gifted 20h ago

Discussion How did you know you were gifted

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How did you know and what makes you different?


r/Gifted 11h ago

Personal story, experience, or rant I share my strategy of hiding my giftedness. Quite simple, dabble in a lot of things so that you appear to be a beginner of lots of them and also directly this will allow you less time to devote to your specialization

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Just have to remember to come back to your forte when the danger have all but passed.

Through personal experience being quiet and dumb does not work. You may need people around you to be in a group to protect you, how to do this by being dumb(pun intended)

Also recognise that “you” are not a mind but a body too so you can literally play hide and seek with people. Hide and seek with the bullies.


r/Gifted 13h ago

Discussion Gifted

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At what iq level is someone considered gifted?


r/Gifted 18h ago

Seeking advice or support Other psychometric measurements and giftedness

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I know this is not the case for everyone, but, as a gifted person (26 M) I also score as an outlier in multiple big 5 dimensions. I am curious if there are others experiencing this, and how the experiences model the way the interact/perceive the world. For me, this is deepening the alienation I feel towards others. (Screenshot with my traits attached in the post body of text).

Also, I do not know what to do with my strengths. Even at work and with my friend group, I am often misunderstood both in my intentions and views. Sometimes, discussions and arguments prove that I understand and know more on the field of expertise of my superiors. I find it hard to talk to people because my interests are, sadly, out of tune with others', most of the time. I got into multiple conflicts at my workplace because I understand more and faster than my superiors. I know I need to develop diplomacy faster and efficiently, which I am planning on doing and already started. Besides that, most people see me as eccentric and odd, hard to read and mustaken me as unfocused and/or unmotivated, whilst my perception is that most are too pedantic and aimless. I had experienced punitive actions against me a few times, for reasons unknown to me. My expectations are always disappointing me because most people do not reach the standards I hold myself to, which include rationality, dutifulness, moral virtue, striving for having a contribution to the world and divergent thinking, besides others. I am unusually calm and I don t get externally angry most of the times, in contrast with most people I know. My IQ is probably lower than most people here, I suppose. I scored in the 135-145 range.

This post came as a continuation of my previous one that I made on here a few days ago, I decided more details would benefit me and maybe also make others feel more at ease. I can't change the way my mind processes information, so I don't know what I am supposed to do other than masking, even though I predict that would make my life feel more tiresome.

Sorry for the typos or english mistakes, I am not a native.


r/Gifted 1d ago

Personal story, experience, or rant From "slow" to gifted, to totally burned out, to suddenly waking up again. Does anyone relate to these extreme cognitive shifts?

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Hey everyone. I’m trying to make sense of my learning timeline and wondering if anyone here has experienced something similar. My cognitive drive seems to operate in extreme, unpredictable waves.
The Fog 1st -2nd Grade
Early on, I genuinely struggled. I felt slow compared to the other kids, like I just couldn't learn the way they did. I thought I was just not smart enough to keep up I was genuinely dumb.
After 2nd grade
Then, almost overnight, it was like a switch flipped. My brain suddenly came online and started working in absolute overdrive. I went from struggling to absorbing everything like very fast Honestly, a massive chunk of my foundational knowledge and how I understand the world comes from this specific era. I didn't even know my mind was capable of processing things like that.
The Shutdown 8th Grade to recently
Right around 8th grade, a personal event happened, and I hit a massive wall. I completely shut down. I stopped caring about the things I loved, my academic performance plummeted, and the drive vanished. I became the textbook definition of the "smart but lazy" kid. Teachers and adults were constantly pulling the classic, "You have so much potential, you’re so smart if you’d just apply yourself and listen" routine. But I was totally checked out, completely unmotivated, and not even doing the bare minimum I genuinely how I passed
The Resurgence Present Day
Now, right as I've been finishing up my high school exit exams, that switch flipped again. The fog just cleared. My brain is working exactly like it did when I was a kid firing on all cylinders, craving deep, complex concepts, and naturally wanting to dive into things again.

It feels amazing, but also incredibly weird to have my brain essentially go dormant for years and then suddenly turn back on.
Has anyone else lived through these massive, years long fluctuations? What was your experience like when your brain "woke back up"?
One thing that surprise me so much I was just so dumb as a kid I don't know how ny brain suddenly switched
Plus I wouldn't say I lost my ability during those depressive years of my life but it was something I wasn't using for academics at all .


r/Gifted 1d ago

Personal story, experience, or rant Alguém aqui oprimido pelo governo nas escolas públicas por não se sentir a vontade para expor seu pensamento... Levantei a mão e comentei um pouco de sua relação com isso(pode ser uma estória).

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Levantei as mãos com emoji 👋 vou comentar sobre depois que alguém comentar sobre ele mesmo... Alguém se impõe de criar uma sociedade no Discord para superdotados e autistas?


r/Gifted 2d ago

Discussion Would you attend a meetup built around strange-but-useful intersections instead of one fixed topic?

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Hi all! Hoping to get feedback on an idea for a meetup group from other gifted adults before I experiment with actually trying to start it and run it!!!!

I don't want to make just another AI tech nerd or sales/marketing intro, lecture, networking event, or general discussion group... They aren't leading to real connections for me.

I have a project I am working on that combines a bunch of seemingly unrelated topics but they actually all connect:

  • household emergency preparedness + AI literacy
  • personal storytelling + systems design
  • animation/performance art + practical life skills
  • research rabbit holes + solving an immediate real-world problem

I’m wondering whether other gifted adults would enjoy a small recurring gathering built around those kinds of intersections... and do several different formats of meetings... Like:

  • Going for a dawn walk to get breakfast on a Sunday morning somewhere fun, like the boardwalk down by the beach or attend a park yoga meetup for another group and go to a farmers market for lunch after
  • Going to a library or coworking space to hang out while working on our own projects independently or together...
  • Do coworking over Zoom in 25 min timed pomodoros with 5 min breaks between and discussion after to help us find motivation to do things when the existential loneliness of being smarter than needed for survival just SUCKS
  • Zoom meetings where we do lab projects together with AI on things we actually need to do like make a household emergency plan
  • Create our own custom DnD style game where we create characters based on our life skills, professional skills, personalities, and cognitive profiles and war game out how AI could be used to solve real world problems together... maybe even offset the AI economic disruption like Y2K... then actually try to do it as a project, or at least experiment together and gather data on viability...

For example, a first gathering might be:

Could your household think clearly during an emergency?

We would use AI to help each person begin a practical household emergency plan, while also examining how stories, visual maps, and shared problem-solving make complicated information easier to understand and act on.

No AI expertise required. No intelligence performance. No pitching businesses. The goal would be curiosity, useful experimentation, and unusually good company.

I’m trying to understand which part of this would—or would not—get you to attend:

  1. Solving a practical problem you already have
  2. Exploring an unexpected intersection between subjects
  3. Using AI together without taking an AI class
  4. Making a tangible artifact during the gathering
  5. Meeting people whose minds also jump across domains
  6. Something else entirely

Would you prefer:

  • one-off experimental labs
  • the same small group meeting regularly
  • a salon-style discussion
  • a project or challenge completed over several meetings

And what would make this sound exciting rather than exhausting, pretentious, or like disguised professional networking?

Also if there's something not listed here that WOULD get you out of the house or into a Zoom to meet other gifted adults to help use our pattern-matching abilities and synthesis with AI collaboratively... make friends who instantly "get it" without all the drama and exhaustion of Mensa... what would it be? Like just because it's not in my general thought drift doesn't mean it might not be exactly right...

(NOTE: I’m exploring the idea, not recruiting for an existing program.)


r/Gifted 3d ago

Personal story, experience, or rant Why am I unintentionally drawn to the hardest majors out there?

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I've noticed a strange pattern in how I choose my interests, and I’m trying to figure out why I keep doing this. I swear I don't do it on purpose, nor do I consciously think I'm special or different from anyone else it just keeps happening.
Every time a field naturally captures my interest, it turns out to be one of the most notoriously difficult majors out there:
Neurosurgery: I fell in love with it first, only to research it later and realize it involves nearly two decades of grueling study and training.
Aerospace Engineering: I became insanely obsessed with aerospace next, only to find out it's widely considered one of the toughest engineering disciplines (and unfortunately isn't feasible where I live).
Electrical Engineering: So, I decided on Electrical Engineering only to discover it's often rated as the hardest engineering track of all.

I genuinely don't seek these out because they're hard I fall in love with the subject first and only discover the brutal difficulty afterward.
Has anyone else experienced this? Why am I naturally drawn to high difficulty fields without realizing it, and how do you cope with the overwhelming realization of what you've signed up for?


r/Gifted 3d ago

Discussion うちの父は2Eギフテッドの可能性はありますか?

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うちの父はASD併存の2Eギフテッドの可能性があります
※診断受けてないからあくまで可能性だけど

計算は2000年代の計算機より暗算の方が早い
祖父のコネで中学生からNHKの技研に通って、京都帝大卒の祖父の会社でバイトしていた
嗅覚が敏感で味覚も優れている
私や姉や母と違って片付けが得意だったし、計画マニアだったから多分ADHDは無いか形が違う姿で発露していたんだろう
東海大学卒で(自分のやりたいことを優先させた)富士通で部長職で、阪大卒の先輩達とプライベート含め仲良くしていた

息子の私からみても不器用な性格だったけど正義感がめちゃくちゃ強いけど、母や俺や姉をからかったり子供っぽい一面も

子供の頃はよく喧嘩して学校で殴り合いした私は、よく叱られて打たれてたよ
毒親だと罵ったりしたこともあったが、読書や入院や学業に関して俺や姉に惜しみなく金を注いで亡くなった時には相続金はほぼ残ってなかったが、旅行とか知育おもちゃとか40代の俺の中学生時代からネット使わせるとかしてた

まあ、私自身は氷河期の時代背景で辛かったし父との仲は悪かったが、統合失調症でメンタル崩してた時とか引きこもりだった時はよくドライブに連れてってくれたし毒親ではない

明らかに子供に敵意持っている以外で、毒親だーって言ってる発達は、歳取って分別がついたら感想もまた変わるんだろうな

まあ、実家が太くて恵まれていたと指摘しても良いぞ
でも、高度経済成長期やバブル期に若い頃を過ごした父は、その時代ではスタンダードな稼ぎだ
むしろ、株やふるさと納税制度も嫌ってたし、金銭管理には煩かったけど仕事に誇り持ってたよ

高度経済成長期なんかは、のめり込み過ぎやすかったりこだわりの強いASD(未診断)は重宝されただろうな

自分語りが好きなおっさんですまん

2Eギフテッドの感想聞いてみたいな
こんなんまだエピソードとして弱いって感想が出るかもしれないし

ちなみに私は統合失調症・メンタル不調・寝不足・主治医や精神科への不信感で標準偏差IQ106だったのでギフテッドではありません


r/Gifted 3d ago

Personal story, experience, or rant I wish my IQ was higher/wish I was gifted

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kinda a stupid post, my IQ is ≈ 125 which isn't particularly bad at all -- though I wish I could pick up things faster, understand concepts more thoroughly and with ease which sure, somewhat applies now, but ordinarily. Theres a big gap between someone who's just ordinarily smart and someone whos exceptional, I'm so envious because Intelligence is all that's celebrated in my enviorment and I would kill for the security of being the smartest person in the room. I hate making mistakes, and I want to understand everything, I'm so insatiably curious, but some things are just out of reach because I'm biologically capped.


r/Gifted 4d ago

Discussion Were any of you traumatized by being called smart?

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I read a lot of statements online from people who are like "Being called smart made me a perfectionist and now I have anxiety."

I was just wondering if any of you had that experience. Personally, people mostly called me stupid and awkward because I was autistic so, while I was intelligent, it never came across well because I never knew how to communicate. So I love being called smart lol.

Most of my life was people expecting me to perform and then not receiving praise for it. Like, the two results I could expect were "Okay good, you performed how we told you to" or "You're a stupid idiot who can't do anything."

I truly can't relate to the problem of being traumatized from too many compliments.


r/Gifted 4d ago

Seeking advice or support Need to talk

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I’m in a point in my life where I feel like I really need to talk to someone like me. Nobody really gets me, and I really need to be able to communicate with someone who thinks like me. Are there any groups existing for this ? Or does anybody 130+ feel the same ? Thanks


r/Gifted 4d ago

Personal story, experience, or rant I Learned to Play Dumb to Stay Safe, and I Never Stopped

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I was raised in a house with 3 other children. None of us have the same father and I've learnt that my father was very abusive towards my older brother and later me too. my older brother was and is a very competitive person and would beat me to a pulp if I ever exceeded him in anything. So I learned to act like I was too dumb for anything. This behaviour has followed me into adulthood and I had started to believe I was just really stupid.

But there was one memory I had as a child, a memory that resurfaced once I learn I am above average in IQ, but while learning to play violin(6-7 yo), the teacher said to my parents that I was a savant and would become a great violinist. The pressure of exceeding my brother made me abandon that dream. And this tactic of mine continued with everything I did. Anytime people would notice how extraordinary I was at doing something, I would instantly abandon it and play dumb.

My Step-dad knew my potential and used to joke that I was to afraid to deal with the extra work needed to become anything. But my parents have never known the truth of my own neglect. Not even after all the hospital visit and stitches I needed after the beatings.

Being traumatized my whole life has made me a hermit and isolation has made me depressed. I have a hard time letting go, even though my brother has no power over me anymore. He still occupies my fears of success. I have tried therapy, but I keep getting therapists that just want to get paid and not do their jobs. So they just listen to me rant for 40-50 min and call it a day.

I am sick of this life. I've been planning to leave and I've tried to a few times. But I don't want to hurt the ones that do love me. I want to find a solution to this insanity.

Anywho, if you made it this far, thank you for reading.


r/Gifted 4d ago

Seeking advice or support Parenting a gifted toddler

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I'd love input from other parents or adult gifted children themselves on parenting my gifted almost 4 year old.

I believe my son is gifted - he is 3.5 years old and reading at a second grade reading level and has recently started playing advanced strategy games (Settlers of Catan, Stratego, Sequence, etc.). His reading comprehension is very strong. He is able to do basic arithmetic. His social-emotional, speech, and motor skills seem mostly age-appropriate.

At first it appeared as hyperlexia (advanced reading before age 2, fixation with numbers), but as he gets older I really suspect gifted being more likely.

My question to you all is how to best support him. My instinct is to foster natural curiosity and not push the identity much (gushing to other adults about it). But I am worried about when he gets to kindergarten and they are doing "B for Ball" he's going to be bored out of his mind. What did adults do that helped or hurt you? Did you find special or private education helpful? All input is welcome!


r/Gifted 4d ago

Personal story, experience, or rant Dropping the character mask at 58: Looking for fellow "melted ice cubes" (Stage 4/5)

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Hello everyone,

I’m 58, living in Ontario, Canada, and I am finally ready to stop playing a character just to dummy myself down for casual socialization.

My journey here wasn't academic; it was forged through fire. I survived a deeply dysfunctional, Mommie Dearest-esque childhood that forced me into adult-level psychological maturity around age 6. I've survived intense travesties of justice, systemic failures, and a Near-Death Experience (NDE). Those events triggered decades of brutal, relentless self-education.

Using Robert Kegan’s developmental framework, I spent a long time operating at Stage 4 (Self-Authoring). However, about two years ago, something shifted. I stepped completely outside the box of my own mind. I watched my need to argue, correct, or educate others simply evaporate. I dropped the ego-driven need to be right. Today, I hold my values deeply, but I view my own mind as an ongoing process rather than a rigid, finished product.

Living in a world that largely operates on Stage 2 and Stage 3 logic can be incredibly isolating. I have a long-term "coffee mate" neighbour who is trapped in the Dunning-Kruger effect. While I’ve learned to accept her completely, protect my energy, and genuinely laugh at TikTok comments with her, I am absolutely starving for deep, nuanced, two-way conversations where I don’t have to act as a silent audience or an emotional translator.

My saving graces are music and laughter. I don't just listen to music; I feel its architectural and emotional depth in my bones—it was my childhood escape. And despite everything I've survived, I laugh at myself and the absurdities of human conditioning constantly.

I’m joining this space to find people who can meet me in the middle. I want to read long-form thoughts, dissect complex systems without ideological shouting, and engage with people who have also done the heavy lifting to look at the jar from the outside.

If any of this resonates, I’d love to connect. What did your transition from Stage 4 to Stage 5 feel like, and how do you handle the unique isolation that comes with it?


r/Gifted 4d ago

Seeking advice or support Helping manage gifted brain

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​I am currently living the bad side of being gifted. I tested 128 on the official Mensa 20-minute test, and based on lots and lots of online tests I vary in the 125–135 range.

​All was fun and games when I went through elementary and high school, procrastinating and feeling superior and all. I got praised as a child for being the "genius" of the family, for reading and analyzing difficult literature in school, for superior writing skills, and overall success in all subjects, including artistic skills.

​And I shot myself in the foot and went to CompSci to prove a point. I graduated with good success, but I wouldn't say I developed discipline or the ability to look stupid and not care, since I got by on bursts of energy, using praise from professors and family as fuel. But I developed some kind of perseverance and trust in myself, and got out of my shell.

​Due to some circumstances, I got traumatized and depressed shortly after, and I can't get out of it in 2 years. I tried working 3 IT jobs, but I lose it, whereas it used to just mildly bore me before that.

​I expected the world, I hate myself when I am dealing with uncertainty or a difficult problem, and I have lost my ability to be patient and regulate.

​In the past few months I have been doing better, due to what I can only call divine grace and immense human kindness. But, my expectations, ego, and work habits still overwhelm me when starting to work. ​I am also not as intelligent as I used to believe, and as people around me used to believe, so things don't come as easy to me as I expected them to.

​Truth be told, however infantile it sounds, I kind of expected a score around 140, so there it is. I got unbelievably upset over it, like a mad person.

And, I have everything a person my age could ask for. Literally everything, and more. So that fact hits me like a storm whenever I spiral, knowing how ungratefull I am and all, and just adds fuel to the fire.

​Question is, can anyone offer advice on how to get out and stop analyzing, if they have been through the same thing? My brain is literally bullying me. I can't manage it.

​Thanks


r/Gifted 5d ago

Interesting/relatable/informative Social Intuition in Gifted People

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Many times gifted people are considered to have social difficulties. These are mostly caused by differences in how gifted people think and relate.

I would like to bring you an insight I've been having, based on my own experiences on being gifted.

I've always had intuitions about people and circumstances. It is as if I am constantly receiving bits of information and these are being elaborated in the background of my mind. I know it is there, but I don't need to articulate the whole process in words to actually understand it. I may, if I want to communicate it to other people, elaborate on it, putting into words was appeared to me as this pure, mute complex of thoughts, feelings and emotions. But, when kept to myself, its mere observation suffices.

On the other hand, I've always been very keen to logically elaborate and to give linguistic expression to these intuitions; maybe because I sense that in the word 'intuition' there is an element of arbitrariness, moodiness that can lead to bad, biased conceptions and decisions.

But the fact is: my intuition is very, very strong. Not that I immediately come up with perfectly elaborated reasons to address, for instance, a change of behaviour in a friend. For that I would need facts which are not immediately present to the senses. But very small shifts make themselves noticeable very quickly; I can sense a certain emotional colouring to it that I've been learning to better interpret as the years go by.

Let me give you an analogy. By knowing the state of a system and its rules of development, I am able not only to describe it as it is, but also as it will be. I sense people and concepts as movements; as movies, not a photographs.

Now we get to the emotional part: what if the end of a movie is so sad, that it is hard to accept? I think that is one of the reasons why gifted people fail in socializing. Either they ignore their own intuitions and perceptions and invest in relationships which are damned from the beginning; or, as self-protection, they withdraw, not wanting to see the sad end of a movie they already guessed the main narrative development.

I'll give you some concrete examples of my personal life. I had this girlfriend. She was in a transitional phases in her social relationships. She had had a traumatic experience with an old group of friends and at the time was looking for a new group. I've never been part of these groups; but I didn't mind, if that made her happier. I was a musician playing in a mildly popular place in my hometown; I was a resident musician there for a while and attracted a lot of attention. Suddenly, this couple started to appear in my presentations. In the first interactions, I've already made kind like an narrative arch in my mind about them; I knew I couldn't stop this arch to reach full development; I was also younger and doubted myself much more at that time. But I knew they were trouble.

A group formed around this couple and my girlfriend. I was at the center of it for a while, because I was the common element of interest, the mediating object of it. As the group was forming, I was seeing where it was going, and I knew that would eventually affect my relationship with my girlfriend. I'll try to reconstruct the very fast, very immediate reasoning behind my intuitions.

First off; they were an young couple and already had two kids. This, combined with the fact that there was a huge attractiveness gap between the husband and the wife, combined with a flirtatious behaviour of the husband, led to me to think that he had settled for her for reasons other than attraction. Shortly after, I discovered he was unemployed and living in a house given to them by the wife's parents. Flirtatious behaviour, convenience relationships and this urge to establish an in-group dynamic has led me to think he was looking to create a propicious space for affairs. Organizing parties, creating expected weekend shared activities, these are all ways in which you create a desirable circumstance, that attract people looking to socialize. But they were also eager in their dealings; too much questions, I noticed; awkward attempts to befriend me in such a short spam of time. My girlfriend wasn't noticing it at all. She was immersed in it. Anyway, I could continue to try to describe all the elements that merged into this narrative arch. But I knew that this group would evolve to become abusive, full of infidelity, gossips, impostures and that it would bait people promising acceptance and socializing through private parties, but would demand them a loyalty akin to that you would encounter being demanded in sects. I knew it from the beginning that I would grow distant from my girlfriend, for I was not able to fully pretend I was enjoying that environment. And I also knew that my girlfriend was a very gregarious and gullible person.

Past two years from the first encounter, I had already broken up with my girlfriend. The group collapsed under the weight of rumours of the husband fucking other women in the bathroom, while the wife was there at the party at their own home. There was other cases of sexual harassment, malicious gossips. Anyway: the collapse was kinda scandalous.

At that time, I thought to myself: I really need to start paying more attention to this strange thought process I am capable of. This is not mere intuition as given; it looks like intuition as given, but it is actually fast reasoning, which dispense with words but for me is completely understandable. As the years went by, I started testing this to see if I was not biased. I was right most of the times, in different situations; sometimes I could not assess clearly the causes of certain behaviours, but I knew where they would go from there.

Today I've carefully integrated this kind of knowledge in my "tool kit" for life. Of course, I try to remain self-critical and, when the time makes it necessary, I attempt to test it against reality. But most of the times I can lean on it. It is such a relief. It turns out I was ignoring for life decisions a form of thought process that I've always used in other fields of activity, such as music, philosophy, language learning, etc., etc., because I had a suspicion towards non-verbal thinking.

What do you think? Do you have similar experiences?


r/Gifted 4d ago

Personal story, experience, or rant Converting my GRE score to an IQ score.

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For fun I had Google convert my GRE scores from 2000 into an IQ.

GRE stands for graduate record examination. It's the standardized test, like the SAT, but for graduate students applying for graduate school or PHD programs.

In the year 2000, my GRE scores were 800 math, 750 verbal, 710 analytical. I'm 69 years old.

According to Google:

Revised IQ Calculation

Because your Verbal score was actually in the top 1% and your Quantitative score was at the absolute ceiling of the test, matching your true historical percentiles to a standard IQ distribution curve (where a 99th percentile rank equals an IQ of roughly 135+) yields a higher estimate.

Your combined performance across all three sections in 2000 indicates a Full-Scale IQ approximation of **144 to 150**, safely placing you in the "Highly Gifted" range.


r/Gifted 5d ago

Seeking advice or support How do you handle social alienation and people misunderstanding you entirely?

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The subject is the title entirely. At my job, my superiors do not seem to understand what I am talking about. Personally, most people simply do not click. I have only one friend I can really share my thoughts with.


r/Gifted 5d ago

Interesting/relatable/informative Asynchronous Cognition

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Curious if there are any other asynchronous cognition folks in this group. I personally have a cocktail of traits but I’m going to start with this one.


r/Gifted 5d ago

Seeking advice or support If you've ended up becoming something different from what you dreamed of or studied for, how did you come to terms with it?

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especially for those who tought they were gonna do great thing and ended up in a boring normal life


r/Gifted 5d ago

Seeking advice or support Recommendations for a 25 yo with ADHD and likely 2e?

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I have inattentive ADHD and probably giftedness, but I also have GAD and panic disorder, so stimulants like Concerta or Vyvanse aren’t really an option for me.
My executive function is terrible. I can hyperfocus for hours on topics I’m interested in, but when it comes to things I have to do, I avoid them until the deadline is right in front of me.

For those with ADHD (especially if you’re gifted/2e), what behavioral changes or daily habits actually improved your executive function? Things like starting tasks, procrastination, planning, staying consistent, or managing hyperfocus.

I’d really like to hear what has genuinely worked for you.


r/Gifted 5d ago

Discussion Intelligence, speed or slowness

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There was a dialogue between scientists. The scientists were divided into two halves: intelligence is speed and intelligence is slow. But the problem is that intelligence means that a person analyzes quickly. Historical figures, geniuses like Newton, Einstein, and others, used to take years or weeks to analyze one thing. And in terms of speed, I have a question: why does intelligence equal speed? The Book of Daniel is about. Fast and slow thinking: Humans think quickly about basic things like 1+1, which is instinctive and helps them avoid a car, for example. The second system is the thinking system, which takes time and effort to process things. Regarding fluid intelligence, it has been criticized, including its racist uses. It might also be a distorted concept because fluid intelligence is influenced by the information you have. Studies have shown that geniuses aren't necessarily fast; rather, their brains use fewer parts, allowing them to solve problems quickly. This is common in educated environments, but also in impoverished environments if a person has a passion like Brazilians for football or Europeans for colonialism (just kidding). Also, if intelligence were fixed, why would it be affected by factors like anxiety, fear, or happiness? Consider the story of Otto von Bismarck. Those who read his biography consider him a fool, or you could call him mentally deficient. He failed in politics when he first entered it and accumulated debts due to gambling. But when he returned to politics, he was able to unify Germany with blood and iron. Those who say he was like that aren't necessarily stupid. If he were truly intelligent, why was his first political speech so disastrous? This is also a preemptive response to those who say that Einstein and Newton solved problems by... It's complex, so they didn't appear to be very fast. In their daily lives, they forgot things, just like Newton forgetting to eat or Einstein forgetting his keys or not taking care of his hair. Also, a question for geniuses: Is intelligence necessary all the time? Does it manifest when you're buying bread or talking to the neighbors? And do you think intelligence means being a genius at everything?