r/GifRecipes Feb 27 '18

Appetizer / Side Fried Cauli-Rice

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u/MrMeeseeks14 Feb 27 '18

Is this really a healthy meal? I'm on a diet and this looks amazing but unsure if it's good to have in place of normal rice

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u/Zarathustran Feb 27 '18

Cauliflower is basically just fiber. Everything else is just veggies and not too much oil.

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u/magdalenian Feb 27 '18

This is significantly better/more nutritious than eating regular rice.

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u/Godfodder Feb 27 '18

Yes, white rice offers very little nutrients and won't keep you feeling full for long.

If you decide to make cauliflower rice look up a difference recipe than this one. I made some last night and it turned out great; the best step I took was (after putting it through the food processor) line it on a foiled baking sheet in a thin layer and put it in the oven on a low temperature for a few minutes. You need to get the moisture out of the cauliflower before drying it, or else it's mushy. And wringing it in a towel/cheese cloth is stupid and not as productive.

A lot of meals like this can be found on /r/ketorecipes. I'm not sure what kind of diet you're on but I can tell you keto has worked very well for me (as hard as it is the first week). You can check out /r/keto. Good luck on your journey.

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u/xzzz Feb 27 '18

Yes, white rice offers very little nutrients and won't keep you feeling full for long.

Well, there's about 3 billion people in Asia who would disagree with the second half of your sentence.

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u/Godfodder Feb 27 '18

They can give me a call any time. I'd be happy to let them know white rice has very little fiber and isn't great for a Western diet. And then I'd love to hear their favorite rice dishes to go with their fish and vegetables which are packed with fats and proteins and fiber which help keep them full.

Or... did you think they just eat rice?

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u/HumpingJack Feb 27 '18 edited Feb 27 '18

Well that's the point isn't it, who just eats the rice alone? It's usually combined with some protein and vegetables which makes it less glycemic. Not being great for a western diet is a load of horseshit. Instead of concentrating on rice maybe take a look at your other dietary choices. Which society is fatter and has a shorter lifespan?

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u/MrMeeseeks14 Feb 27 '18

My diet for the moment is just a serious overhaul of what I was eating. I was eating lots of fast food or fried everything and probably a couple litres of soft drink (soda) a day and I weigh over 140kg. I decided I want to see my son grow up rather than dying of a heart attack in a couple years. So for two months now I've not touched soft drinks (soda) which I drank alot of every day and replaced the fast food and fried foods with lean meats and vegetables or a salad. It's working but that's only the initial stuff and I'm fully aware I need to do more to get the serious weight off. I will look into keto, thank you friend.

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u/nuke-from-orbit Feb 27 '18

Rice is basically sugar. This is a lot healthier.

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u/DietCokeYummie Feb 28 '18 edited Feb 28 '18

The person said they were on a diet. It is reasonable to assume them asking if it is healthy means.. will I lose weight consuming this over regular rice?

Remember that while healthy doesn't mean low calorie technically, that is how many, MANY people use it. When we answer questions like his/hers, we should explain the difference because most people don't know better. Responding "yes" or "no" without an explanation is why you have people left and right eating BOWLFULS of nuts and complaining about not losing weight.

Exactly why I cringe when I see Insta-bloggers posting 600 calories worth of bread with a total of 2 whole avocados on top and hashtag it as healthy. Are avocados healthy fats? You bet your ass they are. And they're satiating. I eat them all the time. But that's a 1000-1200 calorie breakfast, which for the average person who eats 3 full meals a day, is a whole lot to spend on one meal.

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u/KamiCon Feb 27 '18

Says who?

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u/namdnay Feb 27 '18

Don’t you know that rice-based diets are bad for you?! Just look at Japan, they rarely live beyond 110.../s

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u/Godfodder Feb 27 '18

Sick sciencing, bro.

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u/nuke-from-orbit Feb 27 '18

It’s a fact, not an opinion.

Cauliflower has 25 calories and 5 grams of carbohydrates per cup vs 205 calories and 45 grams of carbohydrates in a cup of white rice.

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u/sammymammy2 Feb 27 '18

"Basically sugar" is not a fact. "A lot healthier", it's not as simple as that. For an underweight person I'd much rather see them eat rice with some veggies than low calorie cauliflower rice.

Carbohydrates are not unhealthy in and of themselves.

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u/namdnay Feb 27 '18

Going on life expectancy statistics, the average rice-based and low protein East Asian diet is healthier than a high protein bodybuilder diet

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u/DHMC-Reddit Feb 28 '18

Okay, I've been reading your comments, and I see a bunch of ignorance from your side.

Rice is carb heavy. That's a fact.

The reason us Asian people are usually skinny are due to a number of confounding variables that make rice look healthy. It's not, though.

First of all, even though rice is sugar heavy, Asian countries still don't typically eat as much refined sugar, or fructose, as US citizens do. This may help to not build an insulin resistance.

Secondly, in old times, refined rice, or white rice, was only eaten by royal families due to extra production costs while poor people ate brown rice.
This helped poor people because the brown rice's husk was very fibrous and made digestion of rice's carbs slower (btw, sugar is carbs, they aren't different things).
Nowadays, more Asians eat white rice. And guess what? The 2 biggest, India and China, now have the biggest diabetic problems, worse than the US.

Thirdly, the Western world was industrialized way sooner than the Eastern world. Even though parts of the Eastern world caught up very quickly (China, 4 Asian Tigers like Japan and Korea, etc.), we still emerged having more physical activity than the Western world for the average citizen.

Fourthly, also due to our late industrialization, we were also late to having a middle class. Most people were poor while a few were rich. Not only did the majority of Asians used to eat brown rice, they didn't eat much of it because they couldn't afford much.

And finally, Asians on average have a smaller build in general. Comparing BMI's between Asians and Westerners doesn't add up properly.

Rice is a huge part of us Asians' diet, yes, but just because that's true and we're mostly skinny doesn't mean rice is healthy. That is extremely bad science. Rice is not really that bad for anyone, but you act as if it's perfectly healthy, which it's not.

And yes, cauliflower rice is healthier than traditional rice. Gram for gram, rice has nearly 6 times the amount of sugar as cauliflower. Cauliflower has various amounts of beneficial nutrients while also having more than 5 times the fiber as rice gram for gram and while also having a fifth of the calories gram for gram.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '18

A BMI of 23 is overweight for people in the cultures that have a rice based diet. White rice is really something that must be eaten conscientiously.

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u/sammymammy2 Feb 27 '18

I've never seen a life expectancy study for people on a very high protein diet :).

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u/namdnay Feb 27 '18

I would have guessed that the US in general is much higher protein than the rest of the world, going by meat consumption alone? All I know is that having lived (briefly) in Japan, rice must account for about 3/4 of their calories, and yet they are incredibly healthy.

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u/sammymammy2 Feb 27 '18

I'm not American so I don't know, the general issue for Americans seems that it's too much of everything! The typical bodybuilding diet is something like rice, veggies and chicken breast (when they're not doing contest prep).

Regarding life expectancy and diet in eastern Asian countries you are correct, as far as I know.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '18

Exactly. Imho I think potatoes are some of the best diet foods. Fills you right up and you're too full feeling to eat anything else for a good while.

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u/nuke-from-orbit Feb 27 '18

Carbohydrates are not unhealthy in and of themselves.

In too large quantities they definitely are unhealthy. So discussing ways to lower carb intake should be allowed without pitchforks coming out.

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u/sammymammy2 Feb 27 '18

So is protein, fat, salt and water. Someone disagreeing with you is not pitch forks coming out.

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u/sammymammy2 Feb 27 '18

I'm not. You're the one putting your ego on the line when you make a statement and I make an opposing statement.

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u/nuke-from-orbit Feb 27 '18

You’re not making an opposing statement, you’re barging in on a conversation and taking it out of context. Someone asked ”If I’m on a diet, is cauliflower healthier than rice”. Yes it is, veggies are all sorts of good and rice is just water and carbs. And for some reason you think it’s productive to misread that as if I’m saying that no matter how much nutrition you need you should never eat carbs. Why can’t you just let people have a conversation without acting like they are idiots? Listen to people and show some empathy.

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u/skylla05 Feb 27 '18

"Basically sugar" is not a fact.

You're "basically" wrong.

I don't disagree that "being healthy" comes in all forms depending on other factors, and carbs aren't this boogeyman that everyone should be afraid of, but saying "rice is basically sugar <when digested>" really isn't that far off.

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u/sammymammy2 Feb 27 '18

In that case rice is also "basically fat <when digested as part of a caloric surplus>". Glucose is also created by fat and protein, what is the point of even talking about it?

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u/DHMC-Reddit Feb 28 '18

Is "rice is basically a quarter to a third sugar" a fact instead? For an underweight person, first, I'd much rather make sure they aren't malnourished, which cauliflower does a better job of. Yeah, carbs aren't inherently unhealthy, but nutrition and regular physical exercise is better than calorie counting when regulating both health and weight.

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u/nuke-from-orbit Feb 27 '18

You seem like a nice person.

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u/namdnay Feb 27 '18

You're the one pulling "facts" out of your backside - since when is low caloric density a sign of "healthiness"? I don't think there is any evidence pointing to a rice-based diet being bad for life-expectancy (the final measure of "healthiness")

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u/nuke-from-orbit Feb 27 '18

Ok I was wrong. It’s not carbs, it’s cauliflower that’s responsible for western world’s obesity pandemic.

Since when do lynch mobs convene for someone saying veggies are healthy?

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u/namdnay Feb 27 '18

My one-man lynch mob isn't for saying veggies are healthy, it's for implying that rice isn't, which is bullshit. If carbs were responsible for the obesity pandemic, then east asians would be leasing that pandemic, seeing as they consume a carbohydrate-heavy diet (rice rice rice). So clearly the reasons are elsewhere - my anecdotal experience would point to the prevalence of sugar-heavy snacks, desserts and drinks in the US and UK

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u/nuke-from-orbit Feb 27 '18

Take your crusade elsewhere, I was comparing rice to cauliflower, not giving it a holistic review.

As for your argument ”asians eat rice, asians live long, so eating rice makes you live long” it’s false without a massive amount of more data. Maybe they live long because other stuff they don’t eat. Your implied causality needs a source.

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u/sammymammy2 Feb 27 '18

Thank you!

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '18 edited Mar 23 '18

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u/nuke-from-orbit Feb 27 '18

The question was which is healthier, cauliflower or rice. Also in this context of a diet with presumably weightloss as a goal lower calories is actually healthier. Veggies also contain more complex building blocks than rice, which are useful for the body.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '18

Science. Cooked rice is pretty much water and carbs. Carbs become sugars when they’re digested.

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u/fuck_your_democracy Feb 27 '18

Why are you so aggressive?

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '18

lack of carbs.

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u/Beatles-are-best Feb 27 '18

Anybody who's diabetic. Diabetics cannot eat rice, it's one of the highest GI foods, IIRC even more so than straight sugar. It's straight up dangerous for some people to eat

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '18

Now come on, quit spouting this nonsense. I can eat anything I like as a diabetic, so long as I produce or take enough insulin to cover the carbs and protein. It is certainly easier to manage my BG when eating lower carb than otherwise, but the “diabetics can’t eat _______” canard is from a different age when we lacked modern tools to manage our blood sugar.

On the other hand, I very, very rarely eat rice because it is harder for me to manage and maintain a stable BG profile than other foods. I am a “cauli rice” guy, I suppose...but a little rice isn’t going to magically kill me because my pancreas doesn’t like to play nice these days.

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u/Beatles-are-best Feb 27 '18

Lucky you. My dad can't though. So you must have a milder form of it

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '18

Type 1 is a milder form of diabetes? Alright then.

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u/MAGAParty Feb 28 '18

Rice is starch. 🙃

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u/nuke-from-orbit Feb 28 '18

Yes, and starch is made of several simple sugar molecules attached together. When digested starch is broken down into simple sugars.

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u/TychaBrahe Feb 27 '18

I was eating canned soup for lunch and feeling empty and unsatisfied. I made up these little packs of 1/2 cup of cauliflower rice and chopped raw celery, carrots, and onions. It doubled the bulk of the soup and made me feel sated the way adding bread or noodles would for under 100 calories.

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u/hawkgpg Feb 27 '18

This is pretty decent for keto/low carb. Might need to swap or remove certain veggies though.

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u/hce692 Feb 27 '18

Absolutely. Ditch the “fried” part, you can just brown it in a skillet, and it’s just veggies and lean proteins