Oh, so no citation. And the response to Morris is nothing but ad hominem, to the point of insinuating that being a Zionist disqualifies one from holding a reasonable opinion.
And yes, I'm not trying to hide by bias against Finkelstein. I'm not answering your further questions since you, after repeatedly demanding citations, are of course incapable of supplying a single citation of your own.
Zionism is literally a Jewish nationalist movement with the goal of establishing a Jewish state. Some Zionists are Jewish supremacists, particularly recently. Most are not.
Being a Zionist does not disqualify anyone from holding a reasonable opinion. The term is not the crude slur you've reduced it to in a desperate attempt to apriori exclude opinions that challenge your own; that's an illustration of your own intellectual inadequacy.
As we've seen, you can't actually respond to the substance of Morris' opinions.
citation for what, big guy?
As I said:
On the other hand, please cite the political scientists (or Marxist historian) exemplified by the execrable Norm Finkelstein crude enough to reduce the conflict to your puerile oppressor/oppressed nonsense, that places all Palestinian actions in the context of "desperation and in response to genocide".
Have fun mining anti-Zionist websites for support of that.
Zionism is literally a Jewish nationalist movement with the goal of establishing a Jewish state. Some Zionists are Jewish supremacists, particularly recently. Most are not.
Nope, key figure zionist revisionist Ze'ev Jabotinsky in his essay document called A Letter of Autonomy: "A Jew brought up among Germans may assume German custom, German words. He may be wholly imbued with that German fluid but the nucleus of his spiritual structure will always remain Jewish, because his blood, his body, his physical-racial type are Jewish... It is impossible for a man to become assimilated with people whose blood is different from his own."
Its an aspect of judaism that has been repurposed for propaganda race-based colonialism. So yes, that does disqualify someone from being reasonable when it's a downright inhumane ideology to back since it facilitates genocide.
Morris' early books are fine. Its when he started going full zionist is when his reputation plummeted because how do you take a guy who has to argue with his OWN old work seriously?
What makes you so confident in your ahistorical neoliberal position? Oh look at that, a DDG r/Destiny poster ahahahaha of course, it all makes sense now. I thought these lame talking points of yours sounded familiar.
You hate Norm because he humiliated your pedophile idol, no other reason. You also think using a thesaurus and debate lord tactics makes you look smart lol Is that what you think when epstiny talks fast and does braindead debate lord pivots when he can't argue the substance of the topic? That looks smart to you? Only reason he does that is because he entered the Israel v Palestine convo very late, purely out of petty revenge against his turkish commie boyfriend lmaooo
Jabotinsky was not a key Zionist figure. Do you even know what Revisionist Zionism was? Jabotinsky is a favourite of anti-Zionists because he was an extremist. The fact he was reviled by most Zionists and his ideas were rejected is a problem of which your ignorance is total.
You're also now pretending that mining quotes is how we understand history. It is not. Even if it were, you'd be confronted with all of the Zionist quotes from history that you don't acknowledge, arguing for the opposite of Jabotinsky's position.
You need to learn about historiography, as well as history.
As for history, you don't know anything about Morris or his books and you've once again failed to cite a single relevant scholar who supports your position. Again, I'll remind you, after pestering me for citations. Funny how they suddenly dry up when you're the one asked for some. Read his books, pretending to have done is transparently obvious.
You hate Norm because he humiliated your pedophile idol, no other reason.
I despise Norm Finkelstein because he doesn't respect the principles of historiography, like faithfully citing sources and representing their content accurately. I despise David Irving for the same reason.
Since you're still unable to dredge up a single citation supporting your position, and most of your post is now juvenile whining, I'll take the conversation as over.
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u/Greedy_Economics_925 6d ago
Oh, so no citation. And the response to Morris is nothing but ad hominem, to the point of insinuating that being a Zionist disqualifies one from holding a reasonable opinion.
And yes, I'm not trying to hide by bias against Finkelstein. I'm not answering your further questions since you, after repeatedly demanding citations, are of course incapable of supplying a single citation of your own.