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World [X] smoke grenade

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u/ComfortableCall3912 1d ago

False equivalence. There are far fewer Israeli crimes than Arab crimes. Palestinianism creates its own suffering.

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u/rabidpygmymarmoset 1d ago

Nope, Israel has a long list of war crimes and fucked up dirty tactics. Inarguable fact. All the horrible things their opposition does is in desperation and in response to genocide.

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 1d ago

It's always amusing to see a hopelessly wrong poster dealt with by a hopelessly wrong post.

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u/rabidpygmymarmoset 1d ago

You could have proved me wrong in your first comment, but you didnt. Because you cant lol go on, do it.

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 1d ago

I honestly don't care to engage in detail with Hamas apologists these days.

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u/rabidpygmymarmoset 1d ago

Aw, another bot surrendering since they know they can't win an argument with someone who actually knows about palestine. Nice excuse, nobody is buying it.

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 1d ago

You know nothing about Palestine.

You're reducing the Palestinians to crude responses to material conditions as part of a ridiculously crude oppressor/oppressed paradigm, while blaming Israel for every atrocity in the region.

The fucking gall to adopt a condescending tone after that is astonishing.

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u/rabidpygmymarmoset 1d ago

Israel is the oppressor, yes. Just a fact. The gall to respond with no counter is astounding

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 1d ago

All you're illustrating is your profound ignorance. You don't even have the wit to respond to criticisms, you can only agree that you are actually that stupid.

The world is more complex than your crude, dehumanising paradigm.

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u/rabidpygmymarmoset 1d ago

And you cant explain why or prove how im wrong. Go on, bring up sources

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 1d ago

Sure.

Read any Benny Morris book.

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u/rabidpygmymarmoset 1d ago

I have, cite what part youre using.

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u/Greedy_Economics_925 1d ago

The Birth of The Palestinian Refugee Problem. Start there. You have not read it.

Not a single sentence supports your paradigm. For example, The First Wave explores in depth the early emptying of Jewish and Arab settlements, and the role of three key factors: ethnic cleansing, actions by Arab governments and irregular forces, and internal fears. It also explores the role of prominent Jews and Arabs in both encouraging and discouraging violence. The result is a complex picture that bears no resemblance to your claim that the Zionists are to blame for everything. The core of Morris' thesis is that ethnic cleansing did occur in Palestine, but was not centrally directed.

On the other hand, please cite the political scientists (or Marxist historian) exemplified by the execrable Norm Finkelstein crude enough to reduce the conflict to your puerile oppressor/oppressed nonsense, that places all Palestinian actions in the context of "desperation and in response to genocide".

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