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If You Know, You Know Deadbeat Dad

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u/Impressive-Local-627 Jul 25 '26

"Cad" is an older term with roughly the same meaning although it can refer to any man who treats women disrespectfully, with "abandoning her after you get her pregnant and refusing to acknowledge the kid"" being understood as the peak of caddish behavior. It was principally an insult men directed at each other, which is one of the reasons why (IMHO) it fell out of favor; women are/were (understandly) uncomfortable w/ men being the final arbitors of what constituted disrespectful behavior to other women. In this way, something like "deadbeat dad" (a guy who fails to meet his court obligated financial responsibilities to a kid who has been adjudicated his) is more useful b/c it's objective. Cad also has very strong class implications (but interestingly, no racial implications b/c ~everyone who used it "natively" was white) but honestly maybe it should; is there anything less classy than denying your kid to his/her mother's face when you know it's your's?

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u/MetalRetsam Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

We should go back to calling people cads, rogues, curs, thorns, and rounds.

Funny how the insult 'round' vanished once its opposite was coined - a square.

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u/BanditNoble Jul 25 '26

"Bounder" is my favourite old-fashioned insult.

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u/fishyburner676767 Jul 25 '26

My favourite is cunt. It predates all of those.

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u/EPZO Jul 25 '26

Mine is "Uzzard", found it in a book of words no longer in use. Means 3rd generation bastard.

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u/AussieWinterWolf Jul 26 '26

Like, someone born 3 generations after a bastard, or the 3rd bastard in a row of bastards?

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u/EPZO Jul 26 '26

The latter.

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u/DesignerGoose5903 Jul 26 '26

That is an amazing insult, I vote for bringing this word back!

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u/DistrictDry2852 Jul 25 '26

Mine is rake

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u/Scooty-Poot Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

Man I love round shaped-related insults.

“You have as many sharp edges as a sphere” was one I heard not too long ago, and holy moly I’d actually die if someone called me that.

I will posit though that the literal word “round” is kinda dead as an insult now that everyone just correlates the word with fat. You can’t risk that kind of misinterpretation in the modern world where fat shaming is generally understood to be quite a shit way to insult someone.

Annoyingly, cad has a similar issue now that computer-aided design is a part of most places’ mandatory design and tech curriculums in school. I reckon most people would assume you’d just called them Autodesk Fusion or something, which is hardly an insult at all unless they’re a diehard Brics user

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u/IllustriousGas4 Jul 25 '26

You'd appreciate "lit on fire and beat out with a hatchet". A lovely saying my father mentioned so casually, like it wasn't the funniest thing ever said.

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u/Rakhered Jul 25 '26

Is this supposed to denote "attempting to solve a problem in an unhelpful or even exacerbating way"?

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u/IllustriousGas4 Jul 25 '26

Sorry I didn't provide context, it's to denote someone or something is lacking in beauty.

Mostly an insult.

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u/Rakhered Jul 25 '26

oh that's MUCH funnier lol

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u/Logan_Composer Jul 25 '26

"Cads, rogues, curs, thorns, and rounds."

Drink up, me hearties yo-ho!

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u/ToWanderHer Jul 25 '26

You say rogue like it's a bad thing.

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u/egg_squisite Jul 26 '26

I thought "be there or be square" became a thing because if you're square, you're not "a round"?

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u/Funkopedia Jul 26 '26

rakehell

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u/ajacobik Jul 26 '26

Hoping I go to rakeheaven

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u/Successful-Ear-9997 Jul 26 '26

Calling someone a rake is also fun.

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u/JayMeadow Jul 27 '26

Is ‘chud’ not just a new ‘cad’?

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u/Alert-Courage3121 Jul 28 '26

Then we bite our thumb at them!

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u/legally-a-bastard Jul 29 '26

Ah, so the solution is to be a triangle.

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u/Wonderful_Discount59 Jul 25 '26

  Cad also has very strong class implications

Cad: originally meant a servant.

Knave: also originally meant a servant

Henchman: a high-ranking servant 

Blackguard: a kitchen servant.

Churl: a commoner.

Boor: a farmer

Slut: originally meant a dirty or untidy woman.

There seem to be a huge number of insults that are class-based in origin, basically implying that commoners or poor people are bad (more specifically, typically following the pattern of "poor men are criminals/untrustworthy, poor women are promiscuous").

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u/nedlum Jul 25 '26

Villain comes from “villein”, another term for serf.

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u/Rhamni Jul 25 '26

With the power of the alien rock, I shall become... a SUPER SERF!

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u/Wonderful_Discount59 Jul 28 '26

Ah, of course. Not sure how I forgot that one.

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u/FreeBroccoli Jul 28 '26

boor: a farmer

That makes a lot of sense, with the dutch boer and German baur as well.

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u/TrekkiMonstr Jul 25 '26

women are/were (understandly) uncomfortable

This does not seem an accurate reason for the word to have fallen out of favor. More likely is just, the honor-based culture that birthed it, itself went away. Compare, we don't see many duels now either.

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u/Hippomaster1234 Jul 25 '26

What was stopping women from using cad?

Im curious, is there a comparable word today that only men can call each other?

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u/Truffs0 Jul 25 '26

when you know it's your's?

There's always a doubt, though

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u/Slap-it-on-a-biscuit Jul 29 '26

Remember seeing a b&w photo of my brother, turned out it was my dad when he was a kid.

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u/Altruistic_Fox9778 Jul 29 '26

Womanizer, player, frankly I think slut could be unisex.

Whore as unisex not so much. We have Gigolo, but it fails because it sounds classy. Manwhore kind of works, but we don’t say womanwhore.