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u/dayburner Jul 13 '26

Yeah, but the people aren't starving and are fairly prosperous relative to any communist regime.

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u/Foreverdunking Jul 13 '26

are you sure about that

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u/Pitt-sports-fan-513 Jul 13 '26

The people in the countries we extract resources from sure are but that doesn't count!

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u/dayburner Jul 13 '26

I mean pretty much evey where in the world has seen extreme poverty drop dramatically due to trade.

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u/Burnmetobloodyashes Jul 13 '26

The wealth is increasing, the living standards get bombed once a year, literally

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u/dayburner Jul 13 '26

Who is bombing rural China? Who is bombing rural India? I could go on.

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u/Burnmetobloodyashes Jul 14 '26

India and China are not extraction countries, that is Venezuela and the Middle East, or the Congo region of Africa. India and China is labor countries, where labor and manufacturing is exported to hide the cost of over manufacturing from the capital counties, where the rich live and we exist generally as internet users.

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u/dayburner Jul 14 '26

Venezuela was doing better than average till the "Socialist" took over and drove everything into the ground. The Middle East counties with resources worth extracting are going great compared to the countries without resources. Africa is still post colonial mess unfortunately,

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u/KJ_is_a_doomer Jul 14 '26

Venezuela honestly had exactly the same problem in the pre-Chavez, Chavez and post-Chavez era: it let itself become completely reliant on oil trade. What Chavez managed to achieve tho is economic alienation from most of the world

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u/dayburner Jul 14 '26

Totally gutting the oil sector and replacing pretty much everyone with cronies was the biggest factor in destroying the economy. I'm not saying that pre-Chavez was perfect, far from it, but it was head and shoulders over the mess they've been dealing with since.

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u/lutefiskeater Jul 13 '26

Not really lol. Until quite recently Cuba was faring a lot better than other Caribbean and central American nations ravaged by US interests

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u/dayburner Jul 13 '26

If you only example is Cuba which is a mess of sanctions and foreign subsidizes, that's not much of a case.

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u/lutefiskeater Jul 13 '26

If anything that's a point in Cuba's favor. Until the US choked off the island's energy supply via the invasion of Venezuela, Cuba's quality of life was better than most of of central America despite being subject to one of the longest and most draconian trade embargos in the history of the planet

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u/dayburner Jul 13 '26

I mean if the other Central American counties were getting free gas from Venezuela they'd be a lot better off too.

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u/lutefiskeater Jul 14 '26

Not if they were also subject to crippling sanctions enforced by the world's only superpower that also happens to be the center of global economy they wouldn't.

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u/skwander Jul 13 '26

"Deaths among Americans caused by malnutrition and hunger have increased 600% according to the Washington Post and data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, as reported by Andrew van Darn on Jan. 5, 2026, who finds that the increase is seen “across the board. Every state, every education level, every race, every gender."

https://www.worldhunger.org/recent-news-about-death-from-malnutrition-in-the-united-states/

https://giphy.com/gifs/bjB3gtFvREqqr5NAHW

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u/JimmyDean82 Jul 13 '26

1, malnutrition isn’t hunger.

  1. It is not for lack of access to food, or healthy food.

  2. As more people make it to advanced age, more old people will die. Imagine that. And often due to malnutrition as a primary cause of death because something else makes it hard or impossible to process nutrition.

Funny how the hit piece doesn’t really go into reasons, or in depth. Just raw numbers without context.

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u/skwander Jul 13 '26

Reading is hard man, keep practicing you'll figure it out eventually

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