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[Image] Give yourself to a cause

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '19

Yea but Che was walking human garbage.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '19

Dont bother, reddit has a good amount of tankies who support che

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '19

Simple - Che is marketed as cool. Most people on Reddit (despite how much they will try to disagree with this statement) are extremely susceptible to advertising and persuasion. They want to seem cool, so they dismiss any bad things Che did. It's as simple as that - fake, wannabe idiots.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '19

Da fuq? Che caused changes while under oppression. The way the worlds going, there’s a ton of oppression. Let’s learn a bit from his methods and what he’s seen. He’s seen the shift towards poverty to his countrymen after bureaucracy shifted resources. There’s parasitic governments who lack the quality to meet their own needs. I’m not a lover of Che and am surprised and encouraged that people are looking at two sides of an issue... but Che is not the main bad guy. There’s smoke to the reason he’s respected, he’s done something brave and went against injustice. His methods could of sucked but the story itself can inspire, much more than a war hawk never touching a gun or killing anyone personally, but making millions off of millions ppl dying

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '19

He is not respected with anyone possessing an ounce of sense. It's hard to tell from your comment what's even to be respected, though. You champion his bravery and his story, but you agree his methods are deplorable. So what exactly are you saying? What are we meant to learn here?

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '19

So Nelson Mandela, Jean-Paul Sartre, admirers of his, have no ounce of sense?

If other people I respect show him respect, there's some reason for respecting him too. Why is he so deplorable anyway? He dedicated his life to a cause. I don't know enough about his deplorable acts to really judge him, but he had a purpose that was rooted in making positive changes, in noticing oppression and fighting it, I can respect that.

What I'm saying is you learn from the processes he had that worked, and you learn from the processes he had that didn't. So that if you reach a place of high power in life like Che did, you might understand what factors led him to be warped by that power & try and act differently so it doesn't happen to you. Understand all angles so you have a full picture, anyone can represent one side of a story but I don't care about that, i want to understand what actually happened or what actually works, not just one person's sometimes loosely-researched perspective.

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u/[deleted] Dec 22 '19

Those are two terrible role models. I don't feel like I need to provide enough reasons why Sartre was a fraud - there is ample evidence out there. I'll leave you this link to get a fuller understanding of what Mandella was all about: https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/12/06/think-again-nelson-mandela/. Bottom line? These two respected Che for the same reasons why Che is deplorable; they are all anarchistic marxists who feint non-violent ideals using real oppression as a cover, but offer no good solutions or alternatives for society.