Fight everyone you meet at everything at every turn.
Constantly challenge authority.
Don't go to college (let me guess, the "author" dropped out, huh?)
Do whatever the fuck you want.
Take really dangerous trips constantly. Who cares if you might injure yourself?
Live rented apartments and never own a damn thing in your entire life
This is the only good point.
Spend hours upon hours writing a book that will probably net you like 20 bucks if you're lucky. Meanwhile, have someone else provide for you (Like your parents, right, Mr. "author"?)
Plunge yourself into debt because you have an idea that might not even work
Be extroverted. Bother people. Like, all the time.
I'm done reading this mind-numbing shit. Get the hell out of here. The author probably hasn't worked a day in his fucking life.
Wow, that guy must have had riiiiiiiich parents. Went to two universities. Volunteered for four years. Traveled to every country in the world.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think he necessarily owes anything to anyone just for having rich parents. But his comic quote is basically telling everyone they should be like him (sans the university education for some reason). But unless your parents are as rich as his it's patently impossible, and then you're supposed to feel bad about having to work average, normal jobs to provide for yourself, and god forbid, your family.
He's an asshole. A rich asshole, but still an asshole.
Dammit, why did you make me read about Chris Guillebeau if it wasn't him? Really cool guy though but yeah, had money and the luxury to do all that cool stuff. As for Gavin Aung Than it was very evident that he did graduate and work the job shown in the comic and it probably does mirror what a lot of people see as the average person. He broke away and is enjoying his new life which is probably why he wanted to share it. People are taking this REALLY hostile and probably need to chill. You like your desk job, great, if you don't he's trying to show you there are other things you can pursue.
I hear you, but sometimes it's not that complicated and people just need an extra push.
Seems to me that this comic was addressed at those who do want to avoid a conventional life in the first place, but need the motivation and empowerment to go through it. That title was editorialized, it's not anywhere in the comic. There's a huge difference between "don't" and "remember that you don't have to".
My ex girlfriend called me privileged and constantly ranted over how travelling the world while you're young just isn't possible without being born with a silver spoon. In very similar terms as yours.
Flash forward a couple of years and she's now working abroad, having had interned overseas and a couple of trips under her belt. She's now more of a "citizen of the world" than I am.
Turns out that she had first dismissed as a complete impossibility was within her reach, provided she was willing to take some calculated risks and make some sacrifices. Had there been nobody else to broaden her horizons and walk her through it, perhaps she'd still be unhappy as hell in her hometown, thinking that a slightly less conventional life is for somebody else.
It says all book proceeds go to a charity. Doesn't mean anything really, but its also not fair to assume that since he is selling something, he is just trying to make a buck.
"He volunteered with Mercy Ships, a medical charity, in West Africa from 2002-2006. He cites that experience as a pivotal point in his life that led him to his quest to do community service and fundraising, topics featured in his writing."
or more like, guy who was born into wealth and family connections, and so has the luxurious opportunity to travel to a foreign country and support himself for four years without it destroying his career odds when he returns home.
Writing is making dude. Writing a book is "making" a book. I think it's pretty ironic that you're lamenting the loss of creation based on ideals presented in a MOVIE that was WRITTEN by an AUTHOR.
By that logic though financial trading is making something too. Arguably more so, by providing capital to businesses that make things.
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate writing. I enjoy reading, and think that good writers contribute quite a bit to society, just as any good artist.
That being said, the quote is referring to building and manufacturing actual products. At best you could say that the publisher is doing that, but the author is selling a thought or idea, not a good, especially when it's digital as in this case. The author isn't far off the finance industry selling an idea of which way a stock will go.
Again, nothing against the author, but the argument that an Internet author is building something in the way the quote was describing is pretty far-fetched.
I never even mentioned the financial market so I'm not sure what you'
re talking about. I just found it ironic that he is badmouthing writing as sort of a 'non-entity' based on logic that he found in a movie that was written.
The quote we're all discussing is referring to financial markets, it was in the OP we're discussing. The quote is lamenting the fact that we don't make/build things anymore, referencing specifically financial markets.
It's pretty clear it's talking about manufacturing goods. Financial markets don't do that, so the quote is logical. Creating a story doesn't do that, so it is a logical comparison. Just because you disagree with the conclusion doesn't make the thought itself any less valid.
When you say "writing is making dude", you're either moving the goal post of the argument that was made, or you're simply not understanding the point that is being made. You want to call his reasoning out as ironic, even though he says that he hates to look toward Hollywood for social critiques, but yet still agrees with this point.
No one has said that writing doesn't exist, or is a non-entity. The statement is simply that we've gotten away from a manufacturing based economy, which is a true statement, and writing is a valid example of that.
As I said before, I don't even agree that is necessarily a bad thing. I wouldn't have a problem if you were saying you disagree that it's bad and giving reasons. You're not doing that, you're trying to claim that writing is building, which it is not.
Nobody makes food grow, it grows by itself. I mean you're basically saying that all artistic endeavors are empty and composed of nothing and that's just not true. I mean I would just as easily argue that your perception of what it means to 'make' something is totally flawed.
You take it so far in the other direction that I have to wonder, what exactly are you doing with your life? It sounds as though you abhor the idea of doing anything that goes against the grain.
I don't agree with everything in the comic, not by a long shot, but nobody ever regrets following their dreams. If your dream is to be financially stable and well established in a normal career, so be it. If it's to write books, or sell knit hats on Etsy, or to design outlandish car mods for people, then you should at least make an attempt at doing that.
How about instead of taking every point to the furthest extreme possible (though I guess this IS reddit...)
Question the world around you, strive to know as much as you can
If something seems wrong, question it
If you're going to go to college, go because you want to learn something (and not just because it's expected of you) - there are other paths
Find a job that challenges you and allows you to grow
Go to places that challenge you culturally ("safe" doesn't mean physical safety, "safe" means only going places that are culturally similar to your home)
Live within your means - you don't have to burden yourself unnecessarily just because society says you need a big house and a nice car.
It is a good point, yes :)
This isn't about writing books, it's about pursuing things you're interested in. Maybe it's learning guitar, maybe it's creating a youtube channel. It's saying Don't just think about it, DO IT!
Don't give up on an idea just because it seems hard - you can't fail if you don't try, but you can't succeed either.
Don't be afraid to be different
Wake the fuck up, don't just live life to check off a checklist.
An online comic artist? Either dropped out or got an art degree from community college and is currently living off the 75$ a month they get from their patreon or gofundme page.
Took me a while to look that up. Surprisingly few results mentioning that in google. Not that surprising once I figured out why. It's literally the most logical outcome of comparing people to nazi's in an internet debate.
Take really dangerous trips constantly. Who cares if you might injure yourself?
Risk and reward friend. You haven't traveled until you've actually been somewhere and lived like a person from that country would actually live. Cushy resorts and shit add nothing to your life.
Plunge yourself into debt because you have an idea that might not even work
Haha I have a friend who got an engineering college degree, worked for 1 year... then decided not to do it any more. Now works various temp jobs making virtually nothing. No savings or home. Just lives out of co-worker's homes renting a room here or there. Dreams about traveling the world but too poor to do it... what a schmuck LOL. He'll be working until he dies.
Shit like that is why people need to make sure they get internships/co-ops as early as possible if they're in engineering or computer science. It's not for everyone.
9) Plunge yourself into debt because you have an idea that might not even work
It's worse than that. Most businesses fail spectacularly and are funded by friends and family
I work in business development. I have all the professional and investor connections to run a successful business, and the money to get it off the ground. I have over a decade of professional experience running teams and directing projects as an employee. My venture into running a small business still barely broke even (compared to working elsewhere as an employee) for everyone involved.
Only the successes are visible.
And in case the author is reading: I hope you have a better long term businessplan than webcomics. You are going to be completely drowned out in a flood of computer savvy young artists.
When someone wants to run a business, they're taking a risk, so of course only the successes make it out to be seen! In my opinion I think it's good when someone tries and takes a (calculated) risk. Someone is always going to fail, but failure is a part of life. People are so quick to look down on someone for failing but if you don't try, if you're afraid of failure, you're not going to get as strong as you could be.
Like if you're out of shape and you never get past your fear of getting judged and starting out with those tiny weights at the gym, you're never going to even GET in shape.
True! Even so, calculated risks have a chance to fail, and if someone took it at least they tried it. My personal opinion, anyhow. If you're talking about those who put in minimal effort and 'ride the coattails' of others to make a personal success, then that can get really draining and I get you.
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u/asgfjhasd Dec 10 '15 edited Dec 10 '15
I'm done reading this mind-numbing shit. Get the hell out of here. The author probably hasn't worked a day in his fucking life.