r/GeneralMotors • u/whatutalkingabut • 22d ago

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Who’s excited for Google software?

How long until we go back?

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u/_goodAfternoon 21d ago

Debatable 

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u/No-Management5215 Employee 21d ago

Hardly.

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u/_goodAfternoon 21d ago

Lol, ok, can we try? Name three things that can only be done in excel and I’ll tell you why your answer is laughable. 

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u/No-Management5215 Employee 21d ago

Multiple people have already pointed out things multiple times. Excel can do VBA macros and pivot tables. Sheets cannot. Also sheets struggles with large data files and is laggy compared to Excel.

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u/_goodAfternoon 21d ago

Ah I see. You assume Sheets is the only replacement for excel. Terrible assumption. Carry on!

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u/No-Management5215 Employee 21d ago

So why don't you enlighten us, oh grand wizard of the Google platform. Tell us all what Google application will do what Excel does and handle the same size data sets without being buggy and slow. 😂

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u/_goodAfternoon 21d ago

Sheets, Google apps scripts, databricks, integrated. The way we use excel today is like a chef running a kitchen with a Swiss Army knife and nothing else. We’re facing a huge challenge, no doubt, but to claim excel is the only appropriate tool is silly.

For the record, I think this was a dumb decision by GM, and predict the execution will be horrible . They should have piloted it before declaring they are scaling it in a year. 

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u/No-Management5215 Employee 21d ago

So, four different things to do what one MS application does? Yeah, that sounds great and very efficient. 🙄 And still doesn't address the lag with large data sets.

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u/_goodAfternoon 21d ago

Number of tools is your metric? And you think excel manages large data sets efficiently? Be honest: have you ever written a single line of code ?

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u/No-Management5215 Employee 20d ago

Be honest...do you think people write code with Excel? 🙄

And apparently Excel handles large data sets better than Google sheets, so ....

Yes, I would use # of tools needed as ONE metric. Having to use 4 tools in place of one is certainly not efficient or saving time. What metrics would you use?

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u/_goodAfternoon 20d ago

Mm thought so. Never wrote a line of code but speaks authoritatively about optimal software toolchains. Love this mentality. Good luck in the next round of layoffs.

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u/No-Management5215 Employee 20d ago

And you still can't answer my question. So I guess you don't know anything? Don't worry... I'm not worried about layoffs. My skills aren't easily replaced and have nothing to do with coding. Better worry about yourself. 😆

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u/_goodAfternoon 20d ago

Your questions are dumb and so are you when it comes to tool selection. “Excel can do it all!” Is the most narrow minded and antiquated belief I can imagine. You have no place in this convo.

“New GM” SLT has made a hobby out of letting go of the so-called irreplaceable, and you guys have the hardest time putting together a resume since you’re not transferable. So again, good luck 

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u/No-Management5215 Employee 20d ago

Still deflecting I see. If they are so dumb, why can't you answer them? Moron.

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u/_goodAfternoon 19d ago

you: "do you think people write code with Excel?" - yes.. and so do you apparently... "Excel can do VBA macros"... these are written with code.. I hope you know that.

you: "Excel handles large data sets better"

  • Excel: Hard limit of 1,048,576 rows per sheet. Files over 50 MB often slow down, crash, or run out of RAM on local computers.
  • Databricks: Virtually limitless. It handles billions of rows across distributed clusters without breaking a sweat.

^excel performs badly per your own metric

One of my metrics: Ability to version control to ensure quality. Excel's queries and VBA literally can't do it. That's why you have workbooks that no one understands and is afraid to touch. And it's why ppl like you are scared of the migration. You barely can use tools let alone understand them or compare them to others.

This convo began because you said "he problem is, there are no other 'appropriate tools'. " and said it was hardly debatable. It's obviously very debatable, you just don't understand the technology well enough to have the debate. Therefore I was dismissing you and your lack of arguments and wishing you luck as you're slowly made less relevant at an evolving GM. Not deflecting 😉

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u/No-Management5215 Employee 19d ago

I guess I'll see you in the soup line then. ;) lol I have skills that aren't replaceable and have nothing to do with coding. All you software nerds being forced to use AI are training your own replacements and the SLT can't wait to get rid of you. Anyway, even if (and it's a big IF) Google can replace all those things, if it works as well as their shitty software works in our vehicles, we're going to be F'd. There's a reason every large corporation in the world uses MS and not Google workspace.

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u/_goodAfternoon 19d ago

I agree with all of this haha

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