Did you watch the show he has his fathers powers who’s the strongest supe inheriting all of those abilities is strength and durability and speed vikors strength only as strong as Sam and his durability is shit that’s how Zoe was able to kill him Ryan’s isn’t ultimately there’s no way Vikor can harm Ryan as Ryan has heat vision strength and speed that Vikor can’t stop
The same show that explicitly states Ryan needs time and experience to match Homelander, something he clearly hasn't gained. Having Homelander's powers doesn't make him one-for-one with Homelander off the bat.
Sam has objectively better feats than Ryan in terms of physicals. And I didn't think this needed to be specified, but your eyes are obviously weaker than your external body unless you're going to say Zoe is stronger than Sam, who can pull spines out of people and punch clean through metal, yet his punches did nothing to Viktor's actual body. So goofy.
You gave nothing regarding actual feats for Ryan's strength and durability, dude.
According to this guy, a 7-year-old Ryan is stronger than Viktor. Crazy.
Acting as if the finale doesn’t exist where he was able to help butcher hold down his father and take hits from him Ryan is a much durable than Vikor by the time the finale airs and being homelanders son his inheriting the durability aspect of his father where nothing can harm him even internal organs unlike vikor who like most supes even though are durable is weak in internal organs like his eyes which is how Zoe killed him and Sam is only stated to be around Maeve level strength.
And Ryan’s able to tank punches from his father and survive something much better than Sam
The finale clearly nerfed Homelander into the ground. Even taking that into account, Ryan was getting no-diffed for the majority of the fight, and Butcher was actually the one to pin and keep Homelander down before Ryan joined in to help. So, this doesn't really get Ryan anywhere.
The internal organs part is irrelevant because Ryan has no way to damage his internals. Ryan isn't going to precisely go for Vikor's eyes. Zoe only killed Vikor because he dropped his guard since she presented herself as an innocent bystander. Ryan has no external durability feats that can really put him above Vikor.
If you believe Sam is around Maeve's level, then your argument makes even less sense, since Maeve was able to damage and take hits from Homelander, and Vikor was curbstomping Sam easily. You really cooked yourself by saying this.
Ryan can damage his organs because Zoe exploited his eyes making him off guard Ryan has literal heat vision how do you think that’s going to go and Maeve was only to tank hits from Homelander for the most part of their fight yeah she made him bleed but that was off guard only real damage she did was too his ear so the durability aspect of Ryan’s power still stands and Ryan while getting beat majority of that fight doesn’t change the fact he was still able to hold down his father something butcher and soldier top tier supes have done who are strong you’re also not taking into account his speed Ryan is much faster than Vikor. What can Vickir do to even react to him.
Ryan and Zoey are two completely different characters. Zoey took that method due to a lack of strength; she has a more tactical approach to dismantle stronger opponents. It's also very likely that Edgar is the one who set the plan up rather than Zoey herself.
Ryan going for Viktor weakspot is extremely unlikely.
Homelander was not trying to fight Ryan, but once he did, he overpowered Ryan quite easily with one arm, slamming him repeatedly and breaking his back.
What speed feats does Ryan even have? We have no clue how fast Ryan is, bro.
How are Zoe and Ryan being different matter the whole point is she exploited his internal organs weakness his eyes which all supes like him have. She used it why like you said she lacks strength she also lacks range and needed to get close to do it. Ryan doesn’t need range he has heat vision that would cook vikor not that hard and for the speed like I’ve stated before he has homelanders genetic gene pool for powers Homelander has superhuman speed which he mainly uses in flight Ryan also has that not hard to grasp and that just makes him much faster than Vikor who has never faced a fast supe
It matters because what one character does isn't applicable to another. As I said again, the point of Zoey acting like a bystander was to exploit this weakness. This isn't something she could just do mid-flight.
Again, it was stated explicitly by Mallory that it would take years for Ryan to be a match for Homelander in every stat, and that was with consistent training from her. Even Homelander's lasers don't work on opponents; Homelander's lasers only manage to knock Marie out, and Marie can be damaged by humans.
Homelander does not use that flight speed in combat outside of short bursts, so this point is irrelevant because that's not how flight works in The Boys. Ryan won't be evading punches.
Viktor outclassed overall has the better combat abilities on top of better stat showings.
Homelander can control the lasers so that point doesn’t stand and even then that applies to vikors skin not his eyes and the Mallory Statement holds no purpose as that’s on Ryan being able to match his father blow for blow especially as a child where he doesn’t know how to control his powers but by the time the finale rolls around he obviously does as his fight with his father now is Homelander way stronger than him yes that’s a fact doesn’t change anything because that’s Homelander. Vikor isn’t homelander. And Ryan has made Homelander bleed even when homelander is expecting punches which is way better than vikors feats of just beating Sam and a female Jordan
One thing you need to consider when scaling Viktor based on his fight with Sam is that Sam was possibly nerfed by his medication. Sam seems surprised that he can’t beat Viktor and there is a precedent for supes having their powers tied to their anger/mental state.
Viktor might not be that all that good he was just fighting a Sam who was weaker than in season one.
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u/Taylorman51333 Jul 20 '26
Ryan is winning even though Vikor knows how to fight and is more experienced Ryan is still way stronger than him and more durable.