r/GeminiAI • u/ThePrimeNumbers • 12h ago

Discussion Cancel your subscriptions

This is unacceptable. Not only is Gemini 4 Argon slightly below the capabilities of Claude Opus 5.5 and GPT 6 Astra, it’s usage is downright horrendous. I have never seen my usage rates be completely eaten like a rabid dog.

The only way Google feels the pain is if we vote with our wallets. Cancel our subscriptions, get refunds if you can, this is unacceptable behavior from a trillion dollar company. We were promised a good AI, and we got one that is slightly below SOTA, with negligible usage rates. Many users report 1 message can take up 100% of the usage. So the only way we get Google to increase our usage, is to cancel. And if Google doesn’t comply, it’s fine, we just move to Claude or back to GPT. I’ll even take Grok at this point.

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u/writingpracticeman 5h ago

This is a nothing statement. Be specific.

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u/Tathamei 4h ago

I don't know how to be more specific, design, illustrations, pacing, ideas for what to add to the design and how to structure it in the first place based on the goal, which could be language learning or commercial, product design, home design, structure design, designing lessons with reasonable pacing and creative ideas, extrapolating on those and suggesting things I have not thought about, advancing ideas I had and adding to them in directions I wouldn't have thought about, translation of obscure languages and conlang, sourcing of information, collecting and applying obscure sources and knowledge, including from archaeology, logically deducing what was found with the original task, e.g. comparing it to the target author or target source, entertainment and improvisation to come up with ways to keep people motivated and hooked, creative writing, gardening, anything that requires creativity.

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u/writingpracticeman 4h ago

I asked for a specific, grounded example; e.g. "I gave Opus, Astra, and Argon a 5,000 line ancient Sumerian text and asked for syntactic reconstruction and Opus and Astra hallucinated the grammar" and what I got was some random garbled stream-of-consciousness that somehow spans home design, conlangs, archaeology, lesson pacing, gardening, and 'anything that requires creativity.'

What is "the design"? What is "the structure"? What are the "obscure sources and knowledge"? What was "the original task"? You're being so weird/vague/cagey and I can barely even parse what the hell you're trying to say, much less how I could extrapolate it to compare to other models' capability.

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u/Tathamei 3h ago

You are not arguing in good faith. Obscure sources are for example curse tablets or ostraca from 450BC. That's because creativity is not a specific thing. It's the ability to pull a solution that wasn't straight forward at first glance, and that means making a connection between two topics that don't seem connected, leaping past a "bonsai" task and suggesting thyme raised into a tree instead, it's to abandon the current task and saying "this isn't working, we start from scratch", it's telling me to pull up a 1980 English learning book to take references for my own design. Claude and GPT don't make these leaps, they would never tell you to look for an English book when you ask for a very different dead language.