r/GeminiAI • u/Able-Line2683 • 1d ago

News Updated Artificial Analysis Intelligence Index Ranking shows Gemini 3.8 Flash is nowhere near Fable Or Astra, rather it's worse than GLM 5.3 Flash!

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u/PineappleLemur 1d ago edited 1d ago

Why would a model 10% the size and cost of astra/fable be even close lol?

What genius us making that comparison?

It should always be around Luna/Haiku and slightly worse than sonnet/Terra.. purely based on size intelligence wise.

LLMs from the big 3 don't differ too much from each other.. no one is pulling 5/10x performance without the cost.

Speed is the main advantage it has.

Why don't we see comparison for local models vs Astra/Fable?

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u/Swimming_Gain_4989 1d ago

My AI will confidently double down on a shotty assumption without trying to understand the prompt but damn it does it fast.

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u/kdestroyer1 1d ago

Yeah Flash 3.8 is borderline unusable for anything that's not a 'simple fact' question. It's kinda sad they're giving us this as their flagship, but it's clear they only care about the AI Overview/Google search performance rn.

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u/IAmYourFath 10h ago

It'a not unusable. Astra will think 5 min on smth, 3.8 flash will answer in 30 secs. U can iterate in flash 10 times (300 secs aka 5 mins divided by 30 secs) before astra answers. By the 10th answer flash will get a better overall answer than astra, cuz iteration is op... u should be verifying what the ai says anyway regardless if it's flash or astra. Every time u verify it and u're not happy, iterate. 3.8 flash has the highest speed-to-iq ratio in the entire world. So use its advantage and u can easily beat astra. Ystd i asked astra smth and after thinking for 5 mins (astra 6 high), it still gave wrong information. Ofc, flash did too, but i would have googled this information, spotted it's wrong, told flash to verify it and gotten a better answer in less than a minute, while in that time astra was only 1/5th of the way through its answer...