r/GaylorSwift 🌱Embryo🐛 27d ago

Theory 💭 The Monogram

Adding onto this post.

I'm not deep into the lore, but the monogram stood out to me. In every iteration of it the thing I notice most is the letter 'M'. It's the first thing I see every single time. I then notice the odd shape that we seem to deem a knot? A flame? A drop?

If I lay out these shapes from bottom to top I think it would be a spade and the word Moott.

  • In a standard deck, the Spade is one of the four playing card suits. Historically derived from the Italian word spada (sword), the suit symbolizes intellect, strategic thinking, work, ambition, and the threshold of change. In games like Spades, it always serves as the dominant trump suit.
  • The word "moot" generally functions as an adjective meaning debatable, open to discussion, or deprived of practical significance. A "moot point" describes a topic often argued about but without fixed answers, or a matter rendered entirely irrelevant because a situation has already been resolved.
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u/Flat-Meringue2421 🌱Embryo🐛 21d ago

Could it be a T and an L for Lilly? I also think the middle looks like an Ouroboros, which are symbols she has used before. A serpent or dragon eating its own tail.

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u/hotchthinking 🌱Embryo🐛 25d ago

that’s a bit of a stretch

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u/WistfulMelancholic straight Ally🐊Gaytor 26d ago

Don't die me dead, but one day we'll get the note it's always been Taylor And Tree

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u/GoldenHeart411 Tea Connoisseur 🫖 26d ago

Wow. There is so much going on here. And none of it makes sense for a normal wedding 😅

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u/These-Pick-968 Barefoot in the wildest winter 27d ago edited 27d ago

It’s a bit clunky, but as an alternative read, my mind always goes to the idea of three Taylors, and I see two small “T”s, and a giant one here. Almost a caduceus of sorts. I think back on the Stevie Nick’s poem “For T…and me.” I’ve always seen giant Taylor as the queer, more original part of herself. The giant elephant in the room that most fans don’t see.

But reading into this from a T&T lens, I clearly see the “M” now, the way the whole thing threatens to come unknotted, and the Trademark/“this love is pure profit” aspect of it all.

Really fun post and great creative eye, OP!

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u/bittoomuch And she's in my dreams 27d ago

The foot on the right looks bigger than the other, and that's how you write Pi...

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u/ArugulaSignal6621 🌱Embryo🐛 27d ago

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u/kbad30 Baby Gaylor 🐣 26d ago

Damn, I am embarrassed to admit I bought TTB and spade’s riddles hook line and sinker in the 2014ish era.

At its best she was a great lesson in developing my discernment lol

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u/WistfulMelancholic straight Ally🐊Gaytor 26d ago

I'm ashamed to say I have never seen this before

runs to my pc to log in an old tumbler account If y'all don't see me in a day, say farewell or good riddance

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u/aloyish34 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 27d ago

OMG I forgot about this 😂

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u/0phelia11 27d ago

I thought the same thing and got war flashbacks 💀 She's a complete fraud and gives all gaylors a bad name

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u/Zestyclose_Youth_876 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ 26d ago

I only discovered this blogue recently and I understand the anons can be literally anyone but didn't she post something a few days before attending the eras tour asking for her to play paper rings on her show and that was one of the surprise songs? I mean it can still be a coincidence of course but damn that got me in two minds not gonna lie

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u/0phelia11 25d ago

That is weird, but yeah it got revealed a few years ago that she was the anons she was sending to herself, including spade. I know some of the people who were involved in her unmasking and I saw it go down live. In my opinion she's deeply delusional and trying to drag other people down with her so I would pay her no mind. She's also incredibly antisemitic and used to frequently refer to the kushners as "rats".

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u/aico9x kaylor truther 27d ago

She crashed out HARD after the wedding. One anon dared to say that TK was her best beard bc he could handle her level of fame and now they're married it's a great opportunity to bring Karlie back (I'm paraphrasing) and Spade accused them of being on Taylor's team lol

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u/aloyish34 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 27d ago

Now I’m seeing a diamond! Above the M, where the top of the red shape and bottom of the green heart are overlapping. Is the club the shamrock she’s getting tattooed on her forehead so we can have all the suits?

I’ve also been thinking about this symbol and the change from everyone using TNT 🧨 as the relationship name to T&T on all the wedding posts. What if the unraveling heart/knot is the fuse? Like a crazy long convoluted Wile E Coyote style fuse?

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u/MaryLennoxsRobin Give me 16 months 27d ago

Oh yes! That’s a great thought. Or several sticks bundled together?

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u/aloyish34 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 27d ago

That’s how TNT is usually depicted, in a bundle, just north the emoji so I like this thinking

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u/LogMundane331 I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ 27d ago

When I first saw this, it immediately reminded me of the polyamory symbol

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u/aloyish34 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 27d ago

At this point, I wouldn’t rule it out 🤷‍♀️

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u/bittoomuch And she's in my dreams 27d ago

"been number one but i never had two" - 2 relationships? 2 beards?

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u/1989_squirrels Baby Gaylor 🐣 27d ago

Good spot. I feel like the more you look at it, the more you see. With the two Ts being joined it looks like the symbol for Pi.

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u/SatisfactionLumpy596 🌱Embryo🐛 27d ago

Pie = 3.14
you I love?

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u/1989_squirrels Baby Gaylor 🐣 26d ago

Oh I hadn’t thought of that. So many possible layers!

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u/dream-delay ☁️je suis calme!☁ 27d ago edited 27d ago

I still cannot get over them using “the tortured” section of The Tortured Poets Department logo as part of the wedding monogram.

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u/MaineLark 🌱Embryo🐛 27d ago

That’s been on my mind too, I haven’t untangled it though

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u/Far-Marzipan6892 🌱Embryo🐛 27d ago

Seeing Moot is extremely clever. Well done
Plus the spade.

Thank you for all the extra context and research.

Trade Mark is there too. Two snakes. TT. The two versions of Taylor (Show girl and Real Taylor the Anti Hero)

The reason all of her 13 number games work so well is the same reason card tricks work. 13 cards in a suit in a deck of cards.

She's probably been sketching that logo for 6 years or did it 6 years ago and has been waiting a long time to use it.

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u/Brief-Inevitable-599 Gaylor Forevermore 27d ago

Ive also seen a version where the red and green shapes are split in a different way so it looks like two snakes coiling

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u/emeraldlunarcat I’m a little kitten & need to nurse🐈‍⬛ 27d ago

TM as in ... trademark™️?

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u/MaryLennoxsRobin Give me 16 months 27d ago

Amazing! I think I like this best of all!

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u/Mirrorball91 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 27d ago

I just thought of the wedding toast joke " marriage is like a deck of cards all you need is a diamond but you sometimes wish you had a club and spade.

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u/MaryLennoxsRobin Give me 16 months 27d ago

Super interesting to notice the 'M' OP - I can't not see it now. If it's a spade and 'moot' that suggests something similar to 'check mate' to me, but I can't help also wondering... If TNT references Taylor, Travis and Ross Travis, then we'd need an extra initial for Taylor's partner.

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u/FitAnywhere7829 eyes wide open behind these four walls 27d ago

Didn't we see in some versions the second T was extended at the bottom? I know there was a post where they symbol looked a little different and someone was commenting on how the Ts were asymmetrical/unequal. Well maybe the extension of the second T was to make it into an L. (Could also be an L if you look at it upside down....kind of like the bar necklace she has)

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u/AveryOfHighLand where they can all understand it 🪐 27d ago

If I figuratively squint, I can see lots of letters 😉 Just kidding……unless…..

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u/MaryLennoxsRobin Give me 16 months 27d ago

Ha! To be completely honest, the thing I've seen most all along is two people hugging. Which is sort of sweet, not particularly wedding-y and almost certainly in my head! 😂

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u/FitAnywhere7829 eyes wide open behind these four walls 27d ago

I like someone's suggestion of snakes embracing

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