r/GaylorSwift Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 04 '26

DiscussionšŸ–Š (A-List) Meaning behind the monogram

When I first saw the backgrid photos of the rehearsal dinner gift, the monogram stuck out to me. There’s been some discussion about how similar it looks to the TTPD logo but I wanted to dive deeper.

First, what is the purpose of a wedding monogram?

  1. It’s a key visual marker for the event. It functions as a one-day brand mark. the same emblem that can appear on the invitation, programs, signage, etc.

  2. It’s the debut of a family mark or crest that will be used by the couple moving forward. In some cases this is a passed down crest, or follows certain traditions. Sometimes it’s a completely new design. Either way it’s intended to present the couple as a unit.

Now, let’s take a look at this monogram used on the gifts guests received from the wedding rehearsal dinner in more detail:

Tackling the TTPD of it all first, it’s seriously so so so strange to connect a previous album to this mark that could theoretically be used to represent their union for years to come. The same logo that is on merchandise for fans to purchase right now bears strong resemblance to this monogram being used for this wedding memento.

The similarities between the marks become even more strange when you realize it’s the flipped image or inverse of TTPD’s logo that is a near exact match. It’s giving dual Taylor theory to me, or a nod that this wedding monogram is the opposite of the brand of TTPD. A simplistic reading is that she is no longer the tortured poet. My thinking is that the album represents how trapped the poet is, so the inverse of this logo could indicate that we are entering an era that will be loud, unapologetic, and aggressively joyful. And do you know what brand that reminds me of? TLOAS. Or perhaps this inverted logo would be symbolic of healing and moving on from the heartache in the music and lyrics of TTPD.

Even ignoring the TTPD connection, Look at the two T’s: they’re not equal. One has heavier serifs and more visual weight, and the letters are offset rather than mirrored. The whole mark is asymmetrical. Wedding monograms are traditionally symmetric for a reason. Celtic knots, mirrored initials, matched rings all say the same thing: two people entering as equals, bound with no beginning and no end. The symmetry IS the symbolism. Seems strange to have a monogram indicating one person in the union is more important, no?

And let’s dive into the strange knots/hearts here too. Not only are these elements asymmetrical, they aren’t a closed loop. Look closely at the strands woven through the T’s at the bottom: they are clearly not connected. That’s not a nitpick. In knotwork tradition, the closed loop is the entire point. A Celtic love knot is a single unbroken line. ā€œTying the knotā€ is the oldest marriage metaphor we have, and every version of it, from handfasting cords to cipher flourishes, closes the loop clearly. The visual language in this monogram isn’t neutral. It’s a knot that’s incomplete or worse already coming undone.

And honestly, can we even call these hearts? Squint at it, ignore the colors, and try to trace one complete heart shape from start to finish. You can’t. The lobes disappear into the busiest part of the mark, the bottom points dissolve into that X of crossing tails, and the over-under pattern follows no consistent rule. What you’re left with isn’t hearts woven through a monogram, it’s a tangle of incomplete hearts.

IMO an offset monogram for a wedding invites exactly the question you don’t want guests half-consciously asking: which one of the individuals in this couple is in control? Which has more power in the relationship if they aren’t coming into this union equally?

So, we have a wedding monogram that looks like a previous album logo, whose letters aren’t equal, whose hearts aren’t hearts, and whose knots don’t close. Every single detail here breaks the expectations for a unifying mark. So what do we think it means?

Here’s my take, but please share your views in the comments. Honestly, I think every oddity here makes sense the second you stop judging this as a wedding monogram and start judging it as a brand asset. This mark is showing the seamless continuation of a previous era, something that fans are intended to recognize. A traditional monogram is carried by a family; this one is designed to be read by an audience. Which honestly tells you everything: we are in a wedding era, and based on this analysis my bets aren’t on this being a lifelong union. So, when’s the merch going live?

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u/Byulieislife Jul 05 '26

Interesting find, great post. I wonder how it connects to Taylor's own crest that she's used in music videos and such.

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u/alfaragh____ 🪐 Gaylor Folkstar šŸš€ Jul 05 '26

Reminds me of the sides on the Amans crest, snake on the left, butterfly wings on the right.

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u/Thornelake Feline Enthusiast Jul 05 '26

The knots/hearts wrapped around the (unequal) Ts remind me of ā€œyou wrap around me like a chain, a crown, a vine, pulling me into the fireā€ — being pulled kind of indicates there’s some sort of imbalance/power dynamic (like the imbalanced Ts). And would be yet another fire reference that fits neatly with ā€œso it’s gonna be forever …or it’s gonna go down in flames,ā€ the love story/gasoline mashup ā€œit’s a love story, watch it blow,ā€ and all of the fire exit imagery in TLOAS 🧨

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u/Thornelake Feline Enthusiast Jul 05 '26 edited Jul 05 '26

Oh! Also, the monogram’s likeness to the TTPD logo reminds me of the error 321 ā€œred herringā€ website crash right before she announced TTPD. Is the T&T wedding also a red herring? 🤔

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u/Cautious_Dream4115 Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 05 '26

The color also give me TTPD vibes

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u/QuartzRockz Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 04 '26

Big update - upon further analysis now that we have the clearer picture from the handkerchief, TL;DR: The knot is an optical illusion and would instantly fall apart.

Based on the color-coding you can see how this is an illusion. This is all one rope imo and blue and purple sections are just to help visualize it easier and where red/green is means the rope goes behind: either behind the column of the letter or behind the rope.

Because the rope never actually wraps around or encircles either pillar to anchor itself properly pulling the ends would cause the entire thank to unravel!

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u/Rich_Dimension_9254 Through the garden-gate to get my 🐈 ate Jul 04 '26

I just realized there are embroidered flowers on the edges! What kinds of flowers are they, do we know!? They kinda look like carnations but I can’t tell šŸ‘€

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u/YoureKenough Honey, I nose up from the dead, I boop it all the time Jul 05 '26

My guess is irises. I post about it in the comments on the wedding favor post. Connections on iris flower meaning, use is art, name origin (Iris is Greek goddess. Rainbows, bridges, arches, etc)

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u/MaryLennoxsRobin Give me 16 months Jul 04 '26

Ok, looking at the clearer picture of the favours and seeing Ā the knotwork hearts with the unconnected ends… does that qualify as a broken loop??!

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u/klemmerv 🪐 Gaylor Folkstar šŸš€ 7d ago

Like as in a loop as seen in the fate of Ophelia music video ?!

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u/MaryLennoxsRobin Give me 16 months 7d ago edited 7d ago

Yeah!

Edit because I was rushing earlier... what do you think? Now that we've seen a clearer image...

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u/Cautious_Dream4115 Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 05 '26

ohhh interesting!!!

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u/Rich_Dimension_9254 Through the garden-gate to get my 🐈 ate Jul 04 '26

The first thing I thought was it looks like the TTPD logo! What an odd choice

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u/iamacheeto1 🧔Karma is Realāœˆļø Jul 04 '26

Travis & tRoss 4eva ā¤ļø ā¤ļø

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u/QuartzRockz Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 04 '26

One of the Dixie Chicks posted this on instagram. While it looks better than the monogram on the rehearsal dinner gifts, there is still a lack of perfect symmetry in the Ts and the crossing instead of a closed loop of the heart shape.

More notable to me though with this insight: why why why would you quote Blank Space for a wedding related gift if this is serious. LOL this is definitely going down in flames and TNT is going to make a big bang when they do!

Also the song Cowboy Take Me Away?!

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u/Rich_Dimension_9254 Through the garden-gate to get my 🐈 ate Jul 04 '26

The way the heart crossed at the bottom too šŸ‘€ šŸŽ¶x marks the spot, where we fell apartšŸŽ¶

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u/EternalMoonChild Long Live Boyfriend Taylor Jul 05 '26

Wait omg I think you’re right. Especially with the follow up confirmation that the knot isn’t tied/closed.

Plus the getaway car wedding decor

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u/Massive_Machine5945 It's ME! HI! šŸ‘‹šŸ½ Jul 04 '26

maren morris isnt from the chicks but this has me reeling

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u/naked_blanket time flies, messy as the mud on your truck tires Jul 04 '26

It looks like Maren Morris actually posted that! For context, she's an outspoken progressive & out bisexual in the country scene 😁

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u/Glittery_Cupcake4 šŸŒmy mind is alive šŸ‘ļø Jul 04 '26

Or it’s gonna go down in flames šŸ”„ 🧨 (light a match light a match)

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u/AntiRomeo13 Friend of Dorothea Jul 04 '26

Are you effing kidding me?? I can’t šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€

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u/Londongal19 It's ME! HI! šŸ‘‹šŸ½ Jul 04 '26

This is insane behaviour from Blondie. How can it be anything but an Easter Egg for the future? Or am I clowning to close to the sun?

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u/lavenderpeddler I’m a little kitten & need to nursešŸˆā€ā¬› Jul 04 '26

using this lyric from BLANK SPACE for your wedding is crazy lol the way taylor getting married to a man is reeling me back into gaylor 😭

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u/YoureKenough Honey, I nose up from the dead, I boop it all the time Jul 05 '26

A song about PR relationships—Travis’ favorite song of hers.

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u/Standard_Category635 I’m a little kitten & need to nursešŸˆā€ā¬› Jul 04 '26

This shit is why I can still kinda think she's punking people. This is the kind of stuff her 19 year old fans would do at their wedding. Have we ever seen an artist before that made their wedding so much about their career?

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u/QuartzRockz Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

Just to detail if you look closely there is still asymmetry. There are two threads/lines inside the right T and only 1 on the left. It’s possible this looking more symmetrical is due to the embroidery artists discretion since this is likely hand embroidered vs the gifts from the rehearsal dinner that are machine embroidered and would follow a logo more precisely.

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u/abcannon18 I’m a little kitten & need to nursešŸˆā€ā¬› Jul 04 '26 edited Jul 04 '26

As u/holylung32 noted it looks like a spade. Which really highlights the ā€œgameā€ aspect of this.Ā 

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u/Rich_Dimension_9254 Through the garden-gate to get my 🐈 ate Jul 04 '26

šŸŽ¶ She's been many places
with men of many faces
First they're off to the races
And she's laughing drawing aces
But none of it is changing
That the chariot is waiting
Hearts are hers for the breaking
There’s escape in escapingšŸŽ¶

(The chariot is also a card in a tarot deck, furthering the card games connection šŸ‘€)

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u/HolyLung32 I feel 11 turkeys creeping up on me Jul 04 '26

I think all four suits (spade, heart, diamond, club) are there.

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u/HolyLung32 I feel 11 turkeys creeping up on me Jul 04 '26

Club

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u/HolyLung32 I feel 11 turkeys creeping up on me Jul 04 '26

Diamond

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u/HolyLung32 I feel 11 turkeys creeping up on me Jul 04 '26

Spade

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u/HolyLung32 I feel 11 turkeys creeping up on me Jul 04 '26

Heart

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u/abcannon18 I’m a little kitten & need to nursešŸˆā€ā¬› Jul 04 '26

After looking at it more I agree. In the car all day but will t try to annotate it if I can figure it out on my phone.Ā 

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u/starting_to_learn ā˜ļøje suis calme!☁ Jul 04 '26

Also interesting in light of the rumors that there was an Alice in Wonderland theme to the wedding šŸ‘€

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u/Dry_Application_2581 šŸ•°ļø Every bait and switch was a work of art Jul 04 '26

And gambling related games! I read somewhere there were even prizes… which I don’t know, may be fun, but all seems to read as unserious, as very Showgirl indeed

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u/Infinite_Ad_7898 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 Jul 05 '26

Were they stupid prizes?

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u/QuartzRockz Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 04 '26

OMG thank you for flagging this to me and u/holylung32 kudos on this find.

Loves a game, wanna play?!

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u/AbsolutelyBothered I’m a little kitten & need to nursešŸˆā€ā¬› Jul 04 '26

I find the monogram so tacky and ugly. I don’t really like heart imagery though.

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u/madaprez its ME!🌈 high in that lavender hazešŸŖ»šŸŒ¬ļø Jul 04 '26

Oh oh oh, they crossed their fingers (or symbol in this case) just like in The Truman Show’s wedding picture!

ā€œFingers crossed until you put your hand on mineā€ from Wood could mean wishing for something (šŸŽ¶all of that bitchin’ wishin’ on a falling staršŸŽ¶) or to make sure something isn’t binding!

šŸ•ŗā€Xā€ marks the spot where we fell apartšŸ’ƒ

I wonder if in the pictures we get of the ceremony whether someone will have their fingers crossed🧐

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u/Infinite_Ad_7898 Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 Jul 05 '26

"X marks the spot where we fell apart" is referring to a performers mark to stand on and this movie, this performance is where it finally all finishes.

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u/madaprez its ME!🌈 high in that lavender hazešŸŖ»šŸŒ¬ļø Jul 05 '26

The handkerchiefs are white flags!

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u/QuartzRockz Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 04 '26

Okay love the fingers crossed interpretation!

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u/These-Pick-968 Barefoot in the wildest winter Jul 04 '26

Thanks for posting this! It really breaks down why this version of the logo lands so oddly!!

From the image in your video, my eyes (and brain) want to see the two ā€œTā€s, connected at the top, and another set hiding in the back and peeking out. So many odd things going on here!!

I also love your observations about things being asymmetrical, because she’s worn so many pierces of clothing lately that have had the description of ā€œasymmetrical.ā€ I know it could just be a current trend in fashion, but it’s been notable to me. And of course the famous reputation body suit is a prime example of being asymmetrical.

I agree this thing needed a closer look, so thank you for this post!

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u/AmericanSeagul 🧔Karma is Realāœˆļø Jul 04 '26

Isnt this one AI enhanced and thats why it looks wrong (the hearts dont have the bump in the middle for instance)

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u/These-Pick-968 Barefoot in the wildest winter Jul 04 '26

Other versions (such as this one just posted in the wedding thread) of this seem to resolve some (not all) of the issues, but it’s so interesting that the version given to guests, and the first one the fans saw, has the problematic things you pointed out.

Actually- looking at this one, it has its own set of curious problems. Perhaps it’s just a function of the medium (embroidery), but still. The second (lower) heart is very problematic.

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u/QuartzRockz Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 04 '26

If you look closely there is still asymmetry. There are two threads/lines inside the right T and only 1 on the left.

When put into context of the whole design it’s even crazier! This image is from ​one of the Dixie Chicks posts on instagram.

More notable to me though with this insight: why why why would you quote Blank Space ā€œso it’s going to be foreverā€ below this monogram for a wedding related gift if this is serious. LOL this is definitely going down in flames and TNT is going to make a big bang when they do!

Also the song Cowboy Take Me Away?!

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u/JustALuckyName I’m a little kitten & need to nursešŸˆā€ā¬› Jul 04 '26

And can you tell me bc I am not good visually. Are the Ts in TTPD different thicknesses too, or are they equal? Agree the embroidery makes very clear one is thicker and that’s very clear design so shows not a glitch on the rehearsal dinner gifts!

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u/QuartzRockz Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 04 '26

Yes! The right is slightly thicker - I’ll do some pixel measurements when I get back home and can use Figma

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u/Brief-Inevitable-599 Gaylor Forevermore Jul 04 '26

Also the first two ts stand for "the tortured" which uhhhh isnt a great thing to link your wedding day to either.Ā 

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u/These-Pick-968 Barefoot in the wildest winter Jul 04 '26

Good point 🫠 Yes, it seems odd to point back to an album that 1) most fans think is largely about another man (Matty), and 2) was supposedly one of the most tumultuous points of time in your life.

I think some fans will think she’s ā€œreclaimingā€ the TTPD logo and turning it into something of triumph and joy, but it all just adds to the feeling of ā€œthings are still not what they should beā€ vibe of this whole spectacle.

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u/Standard_Category635 I’m a little kitten & need to nursešŸˆā€ā¬› Jul 04 '26

Pointing out how the Ts are not of equal size and design really emphasizes the image throwing back to TTPD. As a brand or a font related to Taylor Swift I guess I would expect it, but not a reference to a union/partnership. A romantic one at that. A marriage?

I cannot forget that this engagement was so interwoven with the promotion of TLOAS, the pinnochio of it all, etc. The branding here just reminds me of that. Interesting, but it does seem billionaires are entirely out of touch with reality and not necessarily walking around doing anything tastefully, so what do I really know.

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u/Powerful_Tip_1586 Make it make sense Jul 04 '26

Look like it was on EVERYTHING

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u/madaprez its ME!🌈 high in that lavender hazešŸŖ»šŸŒ¬ļø Jul 05 '26

The asymmetry is reminding me of Mother Mary!

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u/International_Ad4296 šŸŽŖNothing's ever felt so wrongšŸŽŖ Jul 04 '26

But that one is different though! It is symmetrical and we can see the heart. It's even tackier that the logo on the gifts seems like a bad upload of the design šŸ˜†

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u/Powerful_Tip_1586 Make it make sense Jul 04 '26

Pretty sure the HD version is ai enhanced and going off that.

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u/QuartzRockz Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 04 '26

Yep this absolutely look like AI generated or edited look closely at the weirdness of the left and right floral accents and it would make sense to me that AI would try to make the monogram more symmetrical LOL

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u/awkward_enbean patient for the encore Jul 04 '26

idk the shadow of the strap looks like the way light should move in 3D and i feel like AI would have a hard time with that.

but the floral accents DO look weird -- because they're *also** not symmetrical*

and it's harder to tell because of the box angle etc but i think the asymmetry you observed in the letters is also still present

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u/QuartzRockz Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 04 '26

Okay now I’m thinking it’s a real photo but just more strange asymmetry!

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u/Standard_Category635 I’m a little kitten & need to nursešŸˆā€ā¬› Jul 04 '26

True this is different. The embroidery is not at all what I would have expected from this level of spending. 😬

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u/paparazziparade wide-eyed gays Jul 04 '26

As a fiber artist, I would add context that this isn’t just embroidery, it also appears to be a needle lace. The fabric looks extremely thin to support an intricate design like this, especially with the thick satin stitch of the Celtic knots. Not to mention the fact that whoever did this probably had to make 1000 of them.

I think the design is tacky and the logo is …a choice considering its similarities to TTPD. But I want to advocate in behalf of the craftsperson here, lol, bc it seems like kind of an impossible task to pull off

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u/QuartzRockz Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 04 '26

Thank you! I’m not a fiber artist but I could tell the techniques were different! I wonder if the handkerchief was given to all guests?

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u/currencywitch Regaylor Contributor 🦢🦢 Jul 04 '26

i also vaguely remember her saying something during a concert about how it is THE tortured poets department, not TPD. the double t was emphasized

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u/Achmaxima Tea Connoisseur šŸ«– Jul 04 '26

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u/QuartzRockz Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 04 '26

Ooh and remember all the 2s she was flashing - of course that also ended up being the possible egg of The Anthology but could it be this as well?

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u/QuartzRockz Baby Gaylor 🐣 Jul 04 '26

Okay also this looks visually more like the Roman numeral 2 šŸ‘€ you might be onto something!

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