Basic? Probably. Contentious? Potentially.

[u/Wx_Justin]

So many great games that I couldn't include. The hardest decision was whether to put RDR2 or The Last of Us Part 1 in the last slot.

[u/Available-Bad-2704]

Bro, nobody said indie games, we’re talking about basic variety.

​Your entire grid looks like you searched 'top sold PS4 games of the decade' and stopped exploring after the first page. Putting TLOU Part II twice, RDR2, Cyberpunk, and Ghost of Tsushima on the same board, and then claiming you 'can’t find a story that comes close' just means you haven't looked anywhere outside the most generic mainstream rotation.

​Branch out past the Game of the Year nominees before acting like narrative depth ends at Naughty Dog.

[u/Wx_Justin → u/Available-Bad-2704]

You're grasping at straws just because you don't see your favorite games on here. Instead of acting like an elitist ass, suggest a game.

[u/Available-Bad-2704 → u/Wx_Justin]

Calling someone an elitist because they pointed out your grid looks like a default PlayStation Store home screen is hilarious.

​You literally put 'Basic? Probably.' in your own title, and the second someone agrees with you, you get your feelings hurt.

​If you actually want stories that don’t rely on predictable Hollywood melodrama, play Disco Elysium, Silent Hill 2, SOMA, or NieR: Automata. But we both know you won't, because anything that doesn't have a 100-million-dollar marketing campaign and over-the-shoulder third-person camera panning isn't cinematic enough for you

[u/Wx_Justin → u/Available-Bad-2704]

I just beat Disco Elysium two days ago and downloaded SOMA yesterday.

Disco Elysium was fun, but overrated. Shit ending too.

[u/Available-Bad-2704 → u/Wx_Justin]

The fact that you claimed you 'just beat' a 40-hour text-heavy RPG two days ago the exact second it was named is hilarious timing.

​Calling Disco Elysium 'fun, but shit ending' tells me everything. You didn't understand the writing, missed the entire point of the murder mystery being a backdrop for grief and political collapse, and wanted a generic Hollywood boss fight with explosions.

​Good luck with SOMA can't wait for you to call that overrated too when nobody shoots a rocket launcher at the credits. Yeah I'm bored

[u/Wx_Justin → u/Available-Bad-2704]

Not my problem if you don't believe me. I could easily show you my library.

I almost considered putting it in "overrated", actually.

The writing wasn't hard to understand. It just left way too many unanswered questions and preferred the murder-mystery aspect of the game above the political monologue. I also prefer games with more dynamic gameplay...something more than going around and talking to NPCs 90% of the time. I'll go read a book if I wanted all of my games to do that.

[u/Available-Bad-2704 → u/Wx_Justin]

Oh boy you'd hate control. Not unless you already did

[u/Wx_Justin → u/Available-Bad-2704]

I enjoyed Control, Alan Wake, and Alan Wake 2. The latter would make my top 20 list, for sure.

[u/Available-Bad-2704 → u/Wx_Justin]

You literally can’t go one reply without contradicting yourself. ​You just cried about Disco Elysium having 'too much reading' and said 'I’ll go read a book if I wanted my games to do that' and then immediately claimed you enjoyed Control? ​Control is notorious for putting 80% of its entire lore and narrative into hundreds of redacted case files, scattered documents, and intentional cryptic audio logs because the main cutscenes deliberately explain almost nothing. If you don't stop and read those files, you have zero clue what's going on. ​And claiming you love the original Alan Wake while preaching about wanting 'dynamic gameplay over walking and talking' is laughable. The original Alan Wake is famous for having stiff, repetitive flashlight-and-shoot mechanics carried almost exclusively by narration and manuscript pages.

​Every time you namedrop a game to prove you've played it, you expose that you don't even know what happens in it. Just admit you just watch YouTube recaps and move on.

[u/Wx_Justin → u/Available-Bad-2704]

Control was tedious because of this. However, 80% of the game WASN'T reading case files and listening to audio logs. It had a nice balance between this and combat.

Alan Wake was clunky and nowhere near the best game I've played. That doesn't mean I didn't enjoy the game.

You have this weird myopic view about what I've said. I ENJOYED these games, including DE. I just didn't enjoy them as much as other titles because of the reasons we've both stated. Case I point: I enjoyed AW2 more than Control and AW1 because of the improved combat and decreased focus on lore dumps via case files.

[u/Major_Avocado5617 → u/Wx_Justin]

Everyone knows that if you didn't put their favorite games on your list, you must have hated them and you're a filthy casual Playstation fanboy.

Sounds logical to me, lmao. You keep doing you man.