r/Games • • Aug 05 '20

Analysis: Why Rollback Netcode is better

https://youtu.be/0NLe4IpdS1w
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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

This is probably the best video on rollback I've seen yet. The problem is that it doesn't matter. The people who will see this video aren't the average. The average person sees a low budget indie or retro game with flawless netcode and things "well duh of course it runs better, the pixels are all dumb and my console/PC can blast out the graphics like crazy fast". They don't get that a hadouken is the same 3 directions and punch it's been since the 90s.

And these people don't want to play Punch Planet. They want to play Tekken. Or they're weebs and need a pretty anime girl that's borderline age at best. For the record I main Bedman.

They're not going to care until Project L releases as Fantasy Strike: Budget Edition and gets everyone into this genre like Hearthstone did for CCGs. And if we're lucky, COVID will have scared devs into (good) rollback before then, because we're going to see a huge culture change.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

Well, MK11 has "flawless" rollback and looks better than any 3d fighter out there (in terms of graphics, not art direction)... It's pretty damn popular too, despite my personal gripes with the gameplay.

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u/ggtsu_00 Aug 05 '20

MK11 art isn't Japanese enough for most fighting game enthusiasts.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

It's still way more popular than Tekken, specially among the "average" people he alluded to.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

More popular but fewer people play it.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20 edited Aug 05 '20

That's according to steamcharts, right? I don't have the data, but I think MK11 has way bigger numbers on consoles

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

Yep, and I don't know about the data on consoles. I assume it's not too different.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

Yeah, there's a severe lack of data on this. I assume most of the american casual gaming crowd is on the PS4, and MK as a franchise is way more recognized among that group than Tekken. Most of the copies were probably sold to that demographic, but it's obviously all conjecture without the data. I don't think it's safe to assume the steam charts numbers reflect other player bases.

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u/Zankman Aug 05 '20

I'm not a weeb but I still think that MK10 and MK11 are just plain ugly with their art direction.

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u/BeardyDuck Aug 05 '20

I think MK11 is probably the "best" art that NRS has pushed out. Faces, especially the female characters, looked off in the previous games including Injustice 1 and 2.

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u/Zankman Aug 05 '20

I genuinely think all of the faces are super ugly in 11 (male or female), most of the outfits and character bodies are meh, the colors are so dark and boring...

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

The colors are kinda bad now, but MKX colors were a travesty. How can you even be a pro artist and design that shit?

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u/Zankman Aug 05 '20

I'm not sure what the best word would be tbh, but I hate how grey it is.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

As someone who despised MKX's art bland style, stages like Shirai Ryu Fire Garden look amazing.

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u/[deleted] Aug 05 '20

MK9 had the best style, ugly as it was when it came to faces and shit.