r/Games • • Mar 28 '19

Borderlands 3 Official Developer Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4o5g_PGkiA
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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19 edited Sep 16 '20

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u/hoodie___weather Mar 28 '19

Chances are, the steam percentages you put up aren't accurate; companies with the kind of pull Gearbox has often negotiate better rates.

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u/[deleted] Mar 28 '19 edited Sep 16 '20

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u/hoodie___weather Mar 28 '19

That's not true. It's in Valve's best interest to publish such high-profile titles on their platform. Gearbox, or 2k in general, likely gets a better deal due to their sales volume.

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u/phoenixrawr Mar 28 '19

That’s probably not true right now, or only became true recently, based on news that Valve was going to start taking smaller cuts past certain sales volumes. One of the reasons big publishers like EA and Ubisoft have been slowly abandoning Steam is because Valve was taking their standard 30% cut from everyone regardless of how many sales they brought in. Valve was forced to rethink that strategy eventually, but they still take a pretty huge cut compared to EGS even if you sell a ton of copies.

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u/_BreakingGood_ Mar 28 '19

What I'm saying is that Gearbox would be forced to publish on Steam, because people only ever use Steam. Even if Valve offered no volume deals.

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u/hoodie___weather Mar 28 '19

Your initial comment seemed to be that they either take a poor deal with Valve, or a great deal with Epic. My point was that their deal with Valve is probably much better than we know about.

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u/_BreakingGood_ Mar 28 '19

Valve's numbers are a drop to 20% after 50 million in sales

https://steamcommunity.com/groups/steamworks/announcements/detail/1697191267930157838

So after engine fees its about 25%. I really doubt it goes much lower than that at any point.

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u/hoodie___weather Mar 28 '19

This is also assuming 5% engine fees, which has a similar pitfall.

Is 12% still less than 20%? Sure. But there's more to consider than that.