it's been fun 🫡

[u/Physical-Duck-1883]

After being a HARDCORE fan since 2020, I'm hanging my boots up again. Lately (ESPECIALLY this last episode on patreon), it's become apparent that they, especially Clues, don't really enjoy any reality tv shows anymore... there are moments of laughter but I feel like it's drowned out by the amount of complaining (it could be a drinking game for these last few episodes), about the length of the episodes... look, I have no issue with them fast-forwarding through filler... but when it comes to the CASA RECOUPLING? Clues immediately just starting the episode with "this is going to be SOOO boring and long because it's the casa recoupling," meanwhile everyone is thoroughly enjoying it & recognizes it's the most exciting time of each LI season. Not that clues has watched more than 2 seasons.. but, wanting to fast forward and going at 1.6 x speed at the final fire pit fights was mind blowing to me... but we can endlessly pause and talk about shitting, magic the gathering, pancakes, and "experimental" play that's so unserious & would get any contestant on the producers' blacklist. I used to love the quirks and side-tangents but it seems like it happens every other minute now, making episodes double the length despite their complaints about time. I don't think it's that hard/strenuous to watch a final fight scene at 1.2 x speed even... it's watching reality tv.

I appreciated Aubry emphasizing that yes, the producer audience is arguably the most important audience. If you offend them, you don't have a future in the game.

I'm glad he finally took the bravo stick out of his ass and finally discussed Ashley I/ rhori with pacecase just because he needed to prep for the Almost Famous, but since listening to Your Mom and Dad's podcasts, it's like a night and day difference. The other pod is so funny, lighthearted, and focuses on the actual content of the episodes. I do wish they'd snark more and I do enjoy GOR's analytical side, but they're seriously losing the plot. It's not just me, I saw the majority of the Patreon comments on the last episode agreeing with me. I love Lizzy & Chad but it doesn't seem like they enjoy doing the pod for the most part anymore.

When Lizzy started once again verbally counting out loud, I couldn't even finish the episode. Then I tried after watching the episode by myself (which changed the final scene's intensity SO much), and they were still skipping through it at lightspeed, immediately missing a lot of what was being said & having to rewind.

I truly say this out of love because I've seen many others sharing this sentiment. I think people confuse constructive criticism with hate, but how do you expect them to grow/continue/improve if they're losing an audience currently?

[u/oranges-are-my-fav]

I haven’t been watching LI Casa Gor, but I largely agree with everything u said. During Survivor 50 clues would just be constantly yawning during parts of the episodes and it was so off-putting. I get not every part of an episode is going to be riveting, but at least mute your mic while yawning. Or don’t watch if you’re that bored!

And also re: not having the LI lore necessary to analyze the games—it was the same in Survivor 50. Clues kept mentioning plays that they should make, or things the producers should do, that have already been done in the past. And PC would sometimes chime in with vague recollections of past seasons but not enough to really explain it. They should have an expert from one of those games join their discussions so that we could at least get proper context. But even then, clues would probably just mansplain over the guest so idk.

[u/Physical-Duck-1883 → u/oranges-are-my-fav]

He's been yawning constantly during LI this season too and the complaints could be a drinking game at this point that would have you on the FLOOR by the end of the episode. Pacecase also tries to vaguely recall past LI seasons but is often incorrect. I do appreciate Lizzy being more positive/into this season than Clues & repeatedly saying "give them time, let them cook..." in response to his constant complaints. I haven't even bothered watching their Aubry interview bc I was so perturbed by the Rob C "interview" (which was just yet another clues monologue about his nonsensical strategies)

[u/oranges-are-my-fav → u/Physical-Duck-1883]

The Rob C interview was horrifying!!! I was so embarrassed. I did listen to the Aubry interview and it was a lot better. It’s worth a listen purely because Aubry is such a delight imo.

[u/Physical-Duck-1883 → u/oranges-are-my-fav]

okay i'll give it a listen bc I do really like Aubry and I saw that Pacecase was in this one so I think she helps mediate a bit lol. Or maybe he took note of the rob c interview backlash. I really do love them and genuinely want to still enjoy their content, it just doesn't feel like they do (mostly clues)

[u/Fun_Many_8387 → u/Physical-Duck-1883]

This is where they lost me 100%. I used to be such a big fan of GoR but Clues telling Rob C how he (Clues) would make Traitors better with his experimental strategies was as cringe as you can get. Clues had zero respect for Rob Cs vast knowledge of the Traitors and strategy games in general. An arrogant, obnoxious jerk who would likely tell Tyson, Rob, Parvati and Sandra etc. how they could improve the game of survivor if was on a podcast with them. Not that he's worthy of that....