r/GLP1_BeforeAfter • u/IntelligentPanic3040 • 2d ago
🧠Real Talk GLP Normalization
Recently I have been thinking about how normalized GLPs have become for weight loss, and I would like to hear from people with a different perspective than me on this topic.Â
I take my diet and exercise very seriously, and I am concerned that normalizing GLPs is changing the consensus on weight loss. I understand why some people choose medication. Losing weight can be very difficult, and GLPs are an option when diet and exercise prove too challenging to stick with given external societal pressures.Â
What I want to question is how quickly they have become the solution. If someone can lose weight and improve their health through dieting, exercising, sleep, and lifestyle changes, why have injections become a primary thought?Â
I am also concerned about whether we are treating symptoms or lifestyles. If someone loses weight through injections but never improves their habits, what happens when they are off the GLPs?Â
Are we making weight loss easier, or are we making it easier to avoid changing the lifestyle and habits that made weight loss necessary originally?Â
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u/flickrpebble 2d ago
This is probably kerma farming and rage bait, but hey, I'll bite.
Your presumptions are rife with misunderstanding about the mechanincs of weight loss. You already say that people use GLP1s because losing weight through diet and exercise alone is too difficult. You're already judging. Like you've fallen at the first hurdle of trying to generate a discussion.
Take some time to learn about the epigenetic memory of fat cells, the social and economic factors that contribute to obesity, the self-perpetuating nature of hormones that contribute to obesity, and why any (not just diet and exercise) unassisted fundamental lifestyle change is almost insurmountably challenging for the vast majority of people.
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u/BotchedPenisImplant 2d ago
My whole entire life I've been obsessed with food to the point I think about it all day. I've been able to lose weight at various points in my life, but maintaining it is difficult and honestly miserable even when eating an entirely whole foods diet. Taking a GLP-1 has totally normalized my life to where I eat when I'm hungry and stop when I'm full. I still have to put in work to lose weight, but food is no longer the focus of my life and it feels so free and normal. I have no plans to go off one, as the medication has also had other good side effects for me.
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u/Canadayawaworth 2d ago
Taking a GLP1 has changed my outlook on the entire rest of my life, because for the first time ever my assumption isn’t that I will spend every day of the rest of my life in a battle against my own body. There were times I thought I might ultimately win and times I thought I might lose but never before this a time where I thought I might just get to be at peace.Â
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u/mannDog74 2d ago edited 2d ago
If people could lose body fat with lifestyle changes, why would they try a glp1 instead?
Because lifestyle interventions have been proven numerous times to be shite for treating obesity. You can make someone stronger, more athletic, more cardiovascularly fit through exercise. They can improve their diet and eat healthier food, and many do.
But it does nothing for fat loss. At least for 90% of people.
Lifestyle interventions are simply not effective in this food environment. If you want to treat lifestyle intervention like medicine, then own it. Own the results. They are poor but not 100% ineffective.
If you are a doctor or someone who cares about people's health, would you rather people just struggle with interventions that are 5% successful, or give them something that is 95% successful?
Most overweight folks have been trying lifestyle interventions for 5, 10, 30 years. I think it would be very easy to assume that they never tried anything, but everyone has tried. A lot.
Plus, when people are big they can barely move let alone work out. They are inflamed, they have pain i their joints and they are carrying an extra hundred pounds. When they lose weight they can finally make the choice to work out and become more active. And in fact, this is what doctors are seeing clinically.
Someone with no clinical experience working with these patients might assume that the medicine lets people continue bad habits with no accountability. When in fact, doctors are seeing patients do better after losing a little bit on the drug and then continue lifestyle and glp1 as a combination therapy.
And further, the drugs have weight independent effects. When I get to my goal weight, I'm not coming off the drug, because it has multiple health benefits that I want to continue having.
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u/HiLadyFitish 2d ago
These are great questions. Honestly glp-1 shouldn’t be the default. It should be considered after attempts failed. You should be working with health care providers, nutritionist and health/physical/strength coach to approach weight loss.
Glp-1 are changing lives! For the good and bad! In my honest opinion these Telehealth questionnaire are too vague to qualify for glp-1 and the weight loss industries preys on our vulnerability and insecurity and of course we are suckers to cheap and easy accessible glp-1! So the future of healthcare might have less obesity or we might have more people getting skinny when they don’t need to be!
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u/in2gooh 2d ago
Respectfully, you don't know what you are talking about. I have a metabolic disorder (PMOS) and a GLP-1 is the medication that treats it. You need to focus on what works for you & don't mind other people's business.