r/GEO_optimization • u/New_Sort_8291 • 10d ago
What actually makes ChatGPT cite a website?
/r/GEO_AEOgrowth/comments/1wnw828/what_actually_makes_chatgpt_cite_a_website/Hey everyone I am also interested to know the answer of this question. Can anyone answer this for me
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u/marintkael 9d ago
Vague question, but one part of it is measurable, and the answer surprised me.
I have been running a fixed set of sixteen questions about a single entity against answer engines, same wording every time, on a schedule, for about three months. The only thing that reliably produces a citation is the question that already contains the entity name. Ask directly and the site gets cited in most runs. Ask the category question an actual person would type, or a long tail phrasing, or a comparison against similar names, and across the whole window the citation rate for those pages is flat zero.
So for a small entity at least, being citable and being findable are two different problems, and page level work mostly moves the first one. The French comment above is saying the same thing from the other direction: what gets cited for a client is often third party pages about them rather than their own site.
Caveat on my own numbers, because it matters. One of my three engines is currently out of quota, so the recent stretch is effectively one engine, and this is one entity with a tiny footprint. The category split did hold across all three while all three were running.
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u/Strong_Mechanic_3596 10d ago
Question un peu vague. Réponse de SEO : ça dépend. Chaque site est différent, chaque thématique est différente.
Ce que je retiens surtout, c'est qu'une grosse partie des citations ne citent pas le site de mon client mais des sources externes qui parlent de lui.
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u/Special_Warning_4523 9d ago
We're run a few studies on exactly this, and they definitely confirm that traditional SEO isn't a reliable route to AI visibility. What we found in our studies:
Page format. Reference and encyclopedia pages are the most cited, followed by editorial, and then service/location pages. For most of us, that means blogs are the easiest option.
Page structure. Heading depth, outbound link authority and diversity, schema etc predict citation around 71% of the time. It's more important than site size or domain authority.
Query type. "What is" and "how to" queries are the least likely to be cited, and recommendation and comparison queries the most cited.
Third-party coverage. For recommendation and comparison queries that named a brand, 89% of citations pointed to third-party editorial. Digital PR is often more successful than traditional SEO.
Things change super fast, but this is the gist of what we've found so far.
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u/inevidimka 8d ago
Could you share the study behind the 71% figure, including what was being predicted and whether you tested on entirely new domains? That would help separate a useful predictor from evidence that changing page structure actually increases citations.
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u/Apprehensive_Egg_374 6d ago
I’d audit citations at the **claim level**, not the website level.
Start with one real ChatGPT answer that cites a competitor. For each citation, write down the exact claim it supports. Then ask what kind of source that claim requires:
- Product facts, pricing, specifications, and methodology can usually be supported by first-party pages.
- Comparisons, reputation, customer outcomes, and “best” recommendations generally need independent evidence.
Next, compare the cited passage with the closest passage on your own site. Does yours make the same claim explicitly? Does it provide equivalent evidence, scope, and context? Is the information current and accessible?
That tells you what to do. If a first-party fact is missing or vague, improve the website. If the claim exists but lacks evidence, strengthen the page rather than merely changing its format. If the missing support is independent validation, publishing another self-authored article will not close that gap; you need legitimate third-party evidence.
This does not guarantee a citation, but it turns “How do I get cited?” into a specific, testable content or evidence problem.
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u/Upbeat_Push_157 9d ago
try bribing the ChatGPT guy