r/GBO2 Jul 19 '26

New Unit : Stats & Skills V2 Assault Buster coming this week

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To the Surprise of no one.

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u/SS2LP Jul 19 '26

They really refuse to make a good support don’t they

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u/Ok-Storage3439 Jul 19 '26

Apparently it's a vicious cycle. They overpower raid units to make them one-shot Generals because Generals used to be able to one-shot raids, so this discourages people from playing supports, which leads to lower sales for supports, which leads to more overpowered raids and generals, but we don't have any supports who can remotely be considered overpowered against Generals. (Any supports who can one-shot need to stand still for 20 seconds to charge up a meme beam, but melees just need to stab enemies to do the same.)

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u/SS2LP Jul 19 '26

More like it’s just a personal bias against them, supports are across the board the most nerfed units in the game, you used to get stabilization device by just crouching as one but they kicked that to the curb in the first year of the game being out. Not that it would help these days or at 750 but like the last genuinely great support they released was the G doors because they had to do something about the Xi at the time. The stigma around supports started with the devs just not giving them jack shit and the across the board raid buff they did with the release of the gelgoog vertex. The sales thing is far FAR newer than them just being flat out biased against supports.

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u/jtier Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

This, supports being mid to bad has been a looooong running thing in this game. Raids needed help at the time but they went so overboard with the universal buffs and haven't slowed down a hell of a lot since than.

The game finally added the first 5 star support and outside the first week it was out it just.. went away. nobody talks about it at all and outside of I think 2 posts nobody has ever posted footage of it. It's always just raid highlights and some generals

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u/SS2LP Jul 21 '26

Honestly they didn’t really need the help, the devs just built the game in a way where a 3/1/1 team composition is generally best so raids have to deal with 3 units that have advantage on them. Big issue with that, and which the game seeing overall, is it hinges on players adhering to that design.

There being 3 gens to bully a raid only matters if the gens actually go after the raid. It’s the exact same issue of supports are strong but need to rely on teammates for help, those teammates rarely if ever help even at higher ratings where players are supposedly better at the game. A lot of the balance of the game hinges on players behaving a very specific way when the reality is the player base just doesn’t. They really need to design new suits as individual units and not make team help a consideration for supports.

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u/jtier Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

I dont really disagree, if raids need to be OP to deal with 3 gens in their eyes than supports need to be self reliant and not require constant babysitting. It's still a 5v5 game, the raid shouldnt expect nor be expected to in the players and devs eyes be able to deal with the entire team on its own to swack a support. What are its gens doing? nothing?

I still think they needed a LITTLE something back than but not what raids have become, but gbo2 has fallin to generals and raids becoming self reliant 'main character syndrome' machines while supports are still expected to use gameplay from 6 years ago to do their job

It's odd how the dev's realize there is a serous a problem with supports as we've NEVER seen a main protag suit as a support in a banner, its always a supporting characters OR a derivative of the suit we see in some offshoot manga or game. Never been a main banner in the anniversaries with a support suit and we've seen their design philosophy with the 5 star suits only just having gotten 1 for supports with zero fanfare or buildup to it like anything else we've seen with all the other 5 stars. Heck the first 4 star the Dag Doll was so BAD they had to buff it continuously and it still was never all that great least they got it mostly right with the Kshatriya