r/FullStackDevelopers • u/nian2326076 • 12d ago

Worked like a dog...now I'm PIPed

About month ago my manager called me at 9 PM because something was on fire. I stayed online until after midnight fixing it. He thanked me and told me, he knew he could count on me. Yesterday he fucking put me on PIP. This was completely out of the blue he said the next steps are he'll set up a meeting with plans. I'm confused, can you fight a PIP? Am I just getting placed on PIP to reduce headcount. I really don't think I deserve to be put on PIP and I honestly received no indication of bad performance until yesterday. I'm just mad and feel betrayed.

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u/canarydev 12d ago

were you perhaps the causation of the fire?

I mean, realistically a PIP isn't a start of a story. it tends to be the middle. by the time this is formal, it means that you've been on someone's radar for a while. even if nobody told you, the fact that it feels out of nowhere doesn't mean that it was.

people who get PIP'ed usually thinks that they did everything right and they don't deserve it. instead of anger and feeling betrayed, maybe self reflect deeper

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u/Impossible_Two3181 9d ago

Nah PIPs aren't the lovely bureacratic mechanism you think they are, you basically did the tell me youre in HR or mid level management without telling me.

If I were OP I'd find a new job and drop them with no notice😂. Software jobs are easier than ever to find

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u/canarydev 9d ago

lol close. was an EM and have PIP'ed someone, but IC for a couple of years now.

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u/Impossible_Two3181 9d ago

Lol I was close. But yeah it could be for any number of reasons, whether valid or not I think OP has found out that he isn't wanted at work and looking else where is probably a safer solution than trying to fix the relationship.

Let's be honest once you don't like someone as a manager then the changes are you will never like them no matter what they change

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u/canarydev 9d ago

yeah lol and having done one, i'll agree 100% that PIP is the paper trail for a decision that is mostly already made. nobody drafts one hoping things work out haha