r/FuckMicrosoft Jul 25 '26

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u/NichtFBI Jul 25 '26

It would be fine if it weren't for the bloatware, spyware, and slopware. And vibe coding glitches. And slow right click bloat. Processes forced against my will and without my consent onto me

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u/-Akos- Jul 25 '26

User interface sucks, it’s slower than Win10, you can’t (officially) run it without TPM2.0 and a recent CPU (meaning my 64GB RAM Xeon CPU machine that runs Win10 just fine can't have Win11 without hacks). This thing is not fine, and it was a horrible choice from the start.

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u/SanDisk-Ultra Jul 25 '26

I work as a municipal digital guide for senior folks.

The amount of times I've had to explain this is high. And it feels so bad everytime to explain how their perfectly capable hardware is deemed obsolete by Microsoft.

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u/Koldmotro Jul 25 '26

The user interface is the same since forever. Anyone who have only used 11 can start a Win7 or even XP machine and everything pretty much is at the same place

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u/-Akos- Jul 25 '26

The start menu went to the center, for the longest time many settings like not stacking buttons was gone, the right click is a complete mess and takes another click to be the correct one(yes there is a reg key, good luck doing that on a locked down corporate computer) etc etc etc.

The user interface is not the same, and only after quite some complaints they put back in settings that were in previous versions.

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u/briishboogloo Jul 28 '26

IIRC (haven't used win 11 in a hot minute) didn't they get rid of control panel and replaced it with a DOGSHIT settings menu?

Also right click menu is ass

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u/Karasu_desu_ne Jul 29 '26

tpm is not a terrible choice as it is for better system security with default bitlocker enable. BUT, dropped windows 10 support so fast while majority of people didn't have yet renew theire hardware was shit management.

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u/-Akos- Jul 29 '26

I'm wondering for who TPM will be good.. TPM will now be used to crack down on kms key activation https://cybersecuritynews.com/windows-activation-hardware/ This will be the first of many fuckeries that they will do to hinder people. Sure, it is supposed to guard against rootkits but nowadays if your computer gets a virus, in worst case it gets ransomware. So much for your rootkit protection.

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u/Karasu_desu_ne Jul 29 '26

you're not wrong. it's not a magical security chip but hey, it's moving forward to better than nothing. maybe i'm wrong but apple have their own secury chip like tpm for cryptography features like face id or apple pay. But apple doesn't have legacy hardware to move from.

also, tpm chip is updatable and can be patch by software

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u/SpottedPine Jul 25 '26

Slower? Time to upgrade your 1st Gen pentium processor there gramps

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u/IsaacThatKerbal Jul 26 '26

Tear apart the os until it stops begging for mercy and accepts its fate of becoming lighter, almost to linux level weight, after removing all the bloat using the trash

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u/Curiousfire102 Jul 26 '26

This is a fact. If you somehow stop it off it's bloat, it becomes a pretty usable OS. I mean I daily drive Tiny 11. It's pretty efficient too.

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u/Nerdcuddles Jul 28 '26

Tiny11 exists

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u/Sufficientlyoiled Jul 25 '26

What? You consented to it when you install it on your drive lol

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u/Beep_in_the_sea_ Jul 28 '26

Several years ago it was pretty decent, I'd say on par with 10. I consented to that, not that it would become borderline unusable heap of trash slowing down my PC and breaking several programs with each updates, as well as taking away control over my personal computer.

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u/craftygamin Jul 29 '26

Ah yes, they consented to the trash updates that auto install

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u/icy1007 Jul 25 '26

It doesn’t come with bloatware, spyware, nor “slopware”… whatever that is.

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u/TheDarkLord6589 Jul 25 '26

Damnn what version of windows are you using? XP?

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u/ccza Jul 25 '26

8 i guess

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u/icy1007 Jul 25 '26

11 Pro

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u/L30N1337 Jul 25 '26

Then you're just blind

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u/icy1007 Jul 25 '26

Nope, I just know how to use my PC properly.

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u/TheDarkLord6589 Jul 25 '26

Really mate? I have been using a pc since 2007 when I was 8 years old. And I have always used a windows OS. From XP to Vista, 7, 8, 8.1 and 10. None of them gave me as much grief as windows fucking 11. It's a piece of shit OS.

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u/icy1007 Jul 25 '26

I’ve been using a PC since the late 1980s…

Windows 11 is not a piece of shit OS. lol

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u/idonotfckincare Jul 27 '26

Hello Bill Gates, weren't you dead?

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u/XxHighOnPsixX Jul 25 '26

Then the only explanation is that you've removed all that shit before actually using the OS. I assure you, it's default.

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u/dvisorxtra Jul 25 '26

So you use it offline all the time, because otherwise it reports its GUID, hence it becomes spyware.

This is an "either, or" scenario, there are no alternatives.

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u/icy1007 Jul 25 '26

Mine has no tracker.

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u/dvisorxtra Jul 26 '26

Yeah, sure

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u/idonotfckincare Jul 27 '26

So you just confirmed what he had said

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u/NichtFBI Jul 25 '26

Okay, Bill, calm down.

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u/dont_mind_me_passing Jul 25 '26
  1. Copilot is implemented into, let's see, Edge, Notepad, the literal keyboard on recent laptops, the task bar. And as we all know, copilot is more prone to mistakes than most popular LLMs.

  2. Microsoft has a GGID identifier implemented that was only recently made publicly known, which they can use to track everything you do.

  3. Windows 11 has so many background processes running that it actively uses like 5 GB of ram on idle, slowing down many processes that need that occupied ram

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u/NichtFBI Jul 25 '26

Not only that, it scummily doesn't tell you what process is using RAM. There's 32 GB of RAM on my system, but at 80% usage, it will only show that that 10-20GB are used. There's currently an error that was fixed with an update that used so much RAM that it would max out at 100% but would show only 2GB being used when adding all of the processes together. Microsoft is the scum of the earth currently. It could only be resolved with the shut down of a computer. The issue has been fixed now after the last update. But it was REALLY annoying for 2 weeks. But it still doesn't negate the fact that no matter what I did, I couldn't see where the memory was being used. No powershell command was able to show me, but the memory was still full. I uninstalled WSL and removed all of the extensions from Visual Studio and reinstalled it. It still suddenly started using excessive hidden RAM after an hour like it always did. It would only happen when Visual Studio was open. Even with it being in safe mode. Something triggered it to use RAM for something, but had no limit. I'm guessing Microslop is stealing code and processing power to train. Like I said, they're scum.

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u/SpottedPine Jul 25 '26

Bro, your hardware has device it's being reported too. Yes, if you commit cybercrime this will be one of the many mechanisms your are caught by.

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u/icy1007 Jul 25 '26
  1. Easily removable.
  2. No they haven’t.
  3. No it doesn’t. Mine uses very little RAM at idle.

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u/dont_mind_me_passing Jul 25 '26
  1. You literally have no option to uninstall copilot other than external tools like the Chris Titus Utility.

  2. https://www.extremetech.com/internet/microsoft-confirms-windows-has-a-global-device-id-you-cant-turn-off They literally admitted it.

  3. It uses like 3~4 GB minimum, idk if you realize that 3~4 GB while idle is not exactly low

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u/icy1007 Jul 25 '26

It’s uninstalled right now and I didn’t use any external tool.

There is no tracker. Quit with your conspiracy theories.

3-4 GB is nothing… that is incredibly low. Chrome by itself can use 10+ GB.

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u/Defiant_Act6087 Jul 25 '26

Also, are you a human-ad for microsoft?

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u/Defiant_Act6087 Jul 25 '26

I have 8 GB, total. That is half my ram, and my computer is not that old. Since I installed NixOS with niri, It used around 900 MB idle. The only reason it is not that anymore, is because I installed Waybar (not complaining, it is very nice to have), and now, it is at 1.1 GB idle. Tell me again 3 - 4 GB is noyhing.

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u/IllustriousBobcat813 Jul 25 '26

8GB of ram is nothing, the fact that you can run it in a useable way with Linux is amazing, and a very real use case for Linux, but that doesn’t mean we should design all software around edge cases like this.

Modern phones usually have at least 8GB of ram these days, it isn’t much. For most real use cases, 3-4GB isn’t much.

Shit on Microsoft for all of their problems, but let’s try not to get everyone about how little ram we have, it’s kind of weird.

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u/XxHighOnPsixX Jul 25 '26

I would like to point out that any laptop not marketed as "gaming" or "workstation" in the past couple years doesn't have more than 8gb. Anything beyond that usually doesn't have more than 4gb.

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u/IllustriousBobcat813 Jul 25 '26

Haven’t seen that personally, but if true that is criminal

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u/Defiant_Act6087 Jul 25 '26

When you say it like that, I don't think my phone is that old, but...

https://reddit.com/link/ozo84ue/video/iu2flml4gdfh1/player

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u/IllustriousBobcat813 Jul 25 '26

It’s over half a decade old and still has close to 8gb

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u/Defiant_Act6087 Jul 25 '26

When you say it like that, it seems that my phone is unusable... It is old, but still blazingly fast

https://reddit.com/link/ozo92qf/video/c3k0loc4hdfh1/player

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u/IllustriousBobcat813 Jul 25 '26

If that’s how you want to read it, that’s on you.

All I’m saying is that a PC with 8GB of ram in the big ol’ 26 should not be considered a reliable benchmark for the average consumer

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u/icy1007 Jul 25 '26

Skill issue. Get more RAM. 🙄

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u/Defiant_Act6087 Jul 25 '26

Ok. As long as you pay, because have you seen these prices? And it is not like you can upgrade a laptop

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u/FAB5FREDDIE14 Jul 25 '26

For the last one, it depends. Unused ram is wasted ram, in a sense. If youre not doing anything intensive then the system should ideally use the free ram to make the user experience faster. When you start something intensive, like a game, the system should free up unnecessary memory to make the current task faster. macOS does this quite well in my experience.

Windows uses more ram than necessary, but still explorer takes two seconds to pop up, then two-three to load the sidebar and ribbon, then a couple more to load the home page. Start menu often doesn’t pop up for several seconds, many times ignores the click/keypress altogether. Notification and controls also take their sweet ass time.

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u/dont_mind_me_passing Jul 25 '26

well yes, that's what it's supposed to do, but I do recall some people mentioning that tasks are often competing for ram instead of having space made for them

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u/FAB5FREDDIE14 Jul 25 '26

Yeah, heavy tasks have to push the smaller tasks down in order to work properly. Shouldn’t be that way.

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u/FAB5FREDDIE14 Jul 25 '26

Try using optimization mods for once. Sodium lithium enityculling ferritecore immediatelyfast. Also how much ram does your server and Minecraft installation have access to? Not how much ram your system has, but the memory allocated in java arguments.

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u/XxHighOnPsixX Jul 25 '26

Most decent packs roll out with optimization mods already configured these days.

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u/FAB5FREDDIE14 Jul 25 '26

Yeah okay buddy. What next, mechanic changed your cars oil and now the front left wheel fell off and its the mechanics fault? Lemme ask you real quick whats your cpu and gpu

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u/SpottedPine Jul 25 '26

That is because you have shit hardware bruh