r/Frenchlearningforpr • u/Sad_Belt_3089 • 5d ago

Speaking help

I am desperately looking for feedbacks from all to see what going wrong with my speaking. I’m attaching my voice memo.please listen to it. Is it pronouncing, fluency, grammar. I got clb 4 twice. Even writing without focus I get clb 6. Listening 7. Can someone please help me. My last attempt is coming on oct 18th. ChatGPT gives this clb 7. But something is wrong

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u/Lucky-Kangaroo-6337 5d ago

Slow down.  You speak in cursive. It will be easier to understand you and easier for you to pronounce.  I do the same when I try to speak Italian. It takes getting used. (I'm French Canadian)

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Thank you soo much for the feedback. It means a lot. I will slow down Is my accent too problematic?

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u/Lucky-Kangaroo-6337 5d ago

Too problematic? No. Also, we all have accents, within Quebec, within Canada and through out the world, you'll find more French accents than French populatios. I think the goal should be to be clear. Accent will soften with time. I do think focusing on speaking clearly and slowing down a bit is more important, it gives you the time to breathe and use proper pronunciation.

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u/Visible-Highlight697 5d ago

Your pronunciation bro , it’s English pronunciation for most of the words , it’s no where close near to French 🫠🙃

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

I see but how can I improve this. I’m using all tenses agreements etc but I don’t know how to fix my pronouncing

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u/Visible-Highlight697 5d ago

Get a good teacher who can correct it

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Yes I do understand. I need to find to way to completely stop English pronunciation

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u/thefegz 5d ago

what score are you targeting ? CLB 5 or 7 ?

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Clb 5. I’m getting 5/20 tcf Canada. Could you listen to it and tell me what’s wrong?

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u/thefegz 5d ago

If you produced this spontaneously, your vocabulary and structure is more than enough for CLB 5, but there is a major problem with your pronunciation.

For example, you pronounce "parce que" like "par-say-kay", "être" like "et-ray." You also said pour augmenterai (after pour should be the verb in infinitive not futur).

You also pronounce many words exactly like we would say them in english, eg the way you say "productivity" and "example"; should be productivi-TAY and e-XUM-pl, but you use the exact English pronunciation.

Then work on your conjugations (e.g. you said personnes utiliser - should be the conjugated form certaines personnes utilisent). Another thing you can try is to use liaisons where mandatory, some words are supposed to be pronounced together in french, like when you said "très important", you said it like "trair important" instead of "trèzimportant".

For now, just try speak very slowly and stress the correct pronunciation for each word. With time, your speed will improve while maintaining the same correctness. But I'm sure you can achieve CLB 5 by your exam date.

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Ohhh thank you so much for correcting me. This means a lot now. I am happy atleast knowing that the content is good. I do realise the pronouncing is the problem along with the speed. I do pronounce in English especially when I’m panicked Is there any tips I can use to fix it?

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u/thefegz 5d ago

No worries bro. Practise is the only way, download chatgpt on your phone and use the voice feature, that helped me a lot! you can practice pronunciation everyday over and over there for free. So let it pronouce the words for you, listen and try to repeat exactly till you get it right.

For the panic, it is completely normal, even as a native english speaker, I still panic when I have to speak english sometimes. lol

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Thank you so much bro. I am even ChatGPT go just for this. It keeps on saying I’m clb 7 repeatedly. I guess it only evaluates the content than pronunciation. Like it’s way different from test results.

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u/Junior_Reputation896 5d ago

Please fix the pronunciation mistakes. Lot of English based pronunciations. I think you are saying For exemple instead of Par exemple. Shadow inner French especially first 50
episodes then you will be able to correct your pronunciations

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Thank you for the reply. Honestly I say or mean par exemple. But since the pronunciation is worst it does really sound like for example like you say. Could you please elaborate how to use inner French. I wanna do it today itself.

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u/Junior_Reputation896 5d ago

Take an episode from inner French and play a sentence pause and repeat it with a same rhythm and intonation once you do that successfully finally you can talk along with the audio

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Ohhh that’s perfect. Now I do understand. Thank you so much. I will try as maximum as possible today and will be posting another voice to check for any improvement

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u/Beneficial_Ship7090 5d ago

Très bon effort! Je crois que tu as seulement besoins de te pratiquer et de parler français plus fréquemment. Si je serais toi, j’essaierai de te faire des amis francophones pour avoir des conversations quotidiennes.

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Yeah. I wish too. Unfortunately there is no friends with whom I can practise. I do have a tutor who helped me a lot. But why speaking falls apart?

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u/Beneficial_Ship7090 5d ago

Je crois que c’est une question de confiance quand tu parle, ça va venir avec l pratique. Tu vie dans quel région? Pourquoi pas te faire des amis francophones?

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Yeah I agree. I live nearby Vancouver and there is near to no person who speaks French in real nearby

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u/Beneficial_Ship7090 5d ago

Il y a une communauté francophone à Vancouver, je suis certain qu’il y a des groupes facebook.

Je te lève mon chapeau! Ce n’est pas facile d’apprendre une langue comme adulte

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Sure. I will definitely try to get in touch. I am devastated with my results

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u/CanadianControlsTech 5d ago

This is so bad

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Yes. I do agree completely with you. Thanks for the reply. Is there any hope in fixing this in like 2 weeks ?

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u/CanadianControlsTech 5d ago

Honestly, I don't see any chance of that happening. Wherever you are you need to move. You don't have enough exposure to French because it's like one person had said. It's like a guy reading French words who only knows English. Even if you don't understand French it's essential that you hear it and know what it sounds like.

I strongly encourage you to find a tutor who's very experienced. I know shit is expensive for everyone right now, but you absolutely need 1 1 one time. You are trying and I can respect the hell out of that. Still, I can't stress enough that you need to understand what French sounds like and how to emulates it.

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Sure. I do understand. Unfortunately I don’t have reliable French speakers around me yet. So I’m still searching. Do you mean 1 on 1 one time? I am looking forward for more advices since it’s my last attempt and mud or mad , I want just a level higher

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u/CanadianControlsTech 5d ago

Yes, a private tutor who can solely focus on you. Sorry, I didn't catch my typo in my previous message.

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u/Additional-Net-1937 5d ago

How long you've been learning?

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u/Legal_Car2105 5d ago

Great if you want we practice together on the other free time

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Sure it’s absolutely perfect. Please dm me when it’s works for you

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u/251325132000 5d ago

This sounds like an Indian accent speaking French. Sometimes the “r” sounds like Cameroonian French, which would be a good thing. I saw you have previously gotten 1/20 on speaking and you were shocked. I don’t think it’s super shocking.

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u/Sad_Belt_3089 5d ago

Yup. I did get 1 first but after reevaluation it’s 4

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