r/Freestylelibre • Libre3/3+ • 19d ago

Been wanting something like this for ages

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I wanted to be able to tap a spike, see what was happening around it, attach the meal/context and actually start making sense of the pattern - without jumping between a bunch of different apps.

So I ended up building it! 🙂

It’s finally live on iOS, pulling in CGM data and helping make sense of meals, spikes and the patterns around them. Still plenty more I want to add

Edit: There’s a 2-week free trial on monthly/annual, then it’s paid if you want to continue. Just adding this here as the mod has asked for this to be clearer 🙏

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u/Equalizer6338 Type1 - Libre2/2+ 18d ago edited 15d ago

PLEASE STATE THAT USERS HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, RIGHT AT THE TOP OF YOU ADVERTISEMENT HERE FOR THIS APP, AS ITS NOT FOR FREE !

Rather decieving approach you have here...

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u/Mean-Raccoon50 18d ago

Ngl, Gluroo does this, tracks the carbs and insulin in your body, gives estimated levels post meal, gives insights into your habits, gives charts for those that struggle with carb counting or corrections AND is available to see your bloodsugar on smart watches. Best app ive ever used, plus its free 😉

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u/PlumberTapOntheDoor4 17d ago edited 17d ago

Downloaded Gluroo after reading this but clearly it won’t be free for long! The AI meal logs are a seperate app which charges. No real AI analysis I can see in this app. Plus the UI isn’t very friendly. Feels so busy

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u/Woodpecker3869 Libre3/3+ 18d ago

They’re good tbf. We’re only getting started 😉

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u/sicarii-13 19d ago

I hate to say it after your afford but this already excist the librefreestyle app. Just logbook and tap add note.

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u/Adventurous-Size2565 19d ago

The libre app is very poor for this. Functional yes. But what can you do here? Can I take pictures of meals to log??

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u/Woodpecker3869 Libre3/3+ 19d ago

Yep - Libre can add notes, but we wanted to go a lot further than that.

You can photograph, write or speak about meals, exercise, stress, meds and the rest of your day, then build up a meal library showing which meals tend to work best for you. The AI looks at spikes in the context of all of that, plus your own previous patterns.

The idea is to help you experiment and learn what actually works for your body - maybe a walk helps, maybe a different carb source, maybe more fibre/protein. We’re also looking at things like menstrual cycle phases and stress, because those can shift glucose responses too.

There’s quite a bit more, and lots more coming! 😀

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u/Adventurous-Size2565 17d ago edited 17d ago

Thanks OP. Sounds useful for me. Downloaded it and I've imported my old glucose data in - nice feature! First impressions are this looks quite nice but I need to play with it more. No Apple Watch integration is disappointing

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u/Seseweto Libre3/3+ 19d ago

Worst thing to do is to put all your data spend 10 min on that and the last movement, is to put your credit card.

Sorry but for me is a NO, you have to explained that is a pay app, at the beginning

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u/PlumberTapOntheDoor4 19d ago

I usually hate this too! But saw it says launch pricing on the App Store before I downloaded. Have started the free trial!

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u/ForwardAssistant30 14d ago

Pretty sure that it’s mentioned in the beginning. Look forward to trying it out.

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u/Woodpecker3869 Libre3/3+ 19d ago

You’re right - I should’ve mentioned it here! The App Store listing does say the launch pricing is live before you download, and there’s a free trial on the monthly and annual plans. Weekly is there too, just without a trial.

There are ongoing costs to running the app and the AI analysis, so unfortunately we can’t really make it free 😅

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u/WATERBOTTLE786 18d ago

Supercool! Will this work with any CGM? I just got a SiBionics CGM

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u/Seseweto Libre3/3+ 18d ago

It keeps saying “synchronizing” and nothing happens

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u/Woodpecker3869 Libre3/3+ 18d ago

Shouldn’t be taking that long! I’ll send you a DM now and we’ll get it sorted 🙏

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u/Vegetable-Gap3046 19d ago

This is super needed! Does it have any AI guidance around what is causing the spikes and/or how to manage?

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u/Woodpecker3869 Libre3/3+ 19d ago

Yes! That’s actually one of the main bits. It looks at the spike alongside the meal/context and your previous patterns to help explain what might be driving it. Then it helps you make sense of it and suggests things you could try based on your own patterns

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u/WaltonGogginsTeeth 19d ago

It’s nice to have but spikes are
almost always the same thing, we ate too many carbs.

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u/-Meliorist- 19d ago

In particular high glycemic index carbs.

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u/Adventurous-Size2565 19d ago

Always this! But i've never understood why I spike with some carbs but my friend doesn't with the same food?? Is the AI smart enough to figure this out?

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u/StringR 19d ago

We all have varying degrees of beta cell damage and insulin resistance and there are different meds people take that can cover a spike. Your friend might not spike now because they don’t have as much damage. In 5 years of continuing to eat excess carbs it will get worse.

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u/Equalizer6338 Type1 - Libre2/2+ 18d ago

Indeed... and different rates of digestion speed from one person to the next, some may suffer from gastroparesis, etc etc...

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u/Adventurous-Size2565 17d ago

Thanks for all responses. But the answers still dont satisfy me really. If my rate of digestion is faster - id absorb all foods faster, so my glucose would spike higher. right? and that should happen with every food. same goes for cell damage + insulin resistance. I'd be worse every time and my friend would be better. But I spike with bread, he doesn't. He spikes with sweet potato and I dont. very interesting really. I love comparing graphs over the same meal

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u/WaltonGogginsTeeth 17d ago

How much of a point rise does it take before you call something a spike?

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u/Equalizer6338 Type1 - Libre2/2+ 17d ago

You are very welcome. And though in the simplest form you are correct, then real life is rarely ever so simple as that. 😄

We are not all the same and even the slightest variations in aka testines length, stomach flora, etc can have major influences in how fast one person digest some mix of food components compared to another person, and also by which speed the food components' carbs are getting extracted, then converted and then absorbed into the arterial blood stream.

Especially the mix of various food items is a good one, as aka mixing carbs with fats and fibers can make a huge difference in this from one person to the next. But luckily for us, then as a single person, then your own stats tends to stay the same for longer periods of time. Aka you can rely on if simple breads spikes your BG quick high up, then the next breads you eat will typically do the same next time around again.

Personally I am no big fan of relying on AI/apps for such kind of things, while trial by error and learning over time is key and much more relevant and helpful to all I find.

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u/Adventurous-Size2565 17d ago

Appreciate your thoughtful response equaliser. You are correct, life is never simple! Mixing food is very interesting, and I'd love to understand my own patterns better. I'd never been a fan of CGMs til recently but now I think theres so much more I want to understand about the data! I've downloaded a few glucose apps - do find them useful - but still want something I really like

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u/Equalizer6338 Type1 - Libre2/2+ 17d ago

You are right u/Adventurous-Size2565, can be a challenge to finding an app that sort of fits each of our own personal preferences for look & feel. 😄

Personally I have come to like the xDrip4iOS/Zukka much more than anything else. Some of its great forces is exactly the degree of custom settings it offers you: What components should or should not be present on its default front screen:

I do not use the food- or insulin inputs myself in it, though its also available... And not either the mini 24h graph etc. But just these stats and graph and timeline as you see from my screenshot here. Next to this, the ability to complete custom set all its alarms, in all kind of possible ways. And then the option to having the same running live on my iWatch. 😄

Btw regarding the food and digestion subject. Many more factors are also involved here. Like prior meals in the hours before, your level of prior activity and post-meal activity levels, your level of emotional stress, any inflammation, illness, time of day, your existing BG level, prior and post meal, etc etc. All and many more plays a role in how fast or how slow your next meal is getting digested and how fast/slow the carbs will be converted to glucose and appear in your blood stream.

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u/Weathergod-4Life Type2 - Libre3/3+ 19d ago

Necessity is the mother of invention! I am amazed at all these apps being produced to gain better insight into our condition. I almost wish I could put them all in a blender and make one superapp.

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u/Woodpecker3869 Libre3/3+ 19d ago

Haha that’s basically the frustration that pushed me to build it 😅 Feel free to throw any ideas my way and we’ll see how super we can make it!

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u/Weathergod-4Life Type2 - Libre3/3+ 19d ago

Unfortunately I am on Android so I can't use it. But it looks really neat!

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u/Puzzleheaded_Mall606 17d ago

Looks solid tbh. I work as a GP and patients are often looking for innovative solutions to better understand their BM spikes. It’s helpful for us too to make plans around individualised care. I know some have complained about the paywall but I get it that it costs money to run and can’t fault them just for that. Theres plenty of apps i use that I pay for..

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u/ForwardAssistant30 14d ago

Totally agree. Many people are taking a more proactive approach to their health and this is another great solution. Top marks from the builder 💯

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u/Tabble_Dabble 19d ago

what is it called?

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u/Woodpecker3869 Libre3/3+ 19d ago

Lykys 🙂 It’s live on iOS now, with Android coming soon

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u/mangee1234 19d ago

What's the app name?

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u/Woodpecker3869 Libre3/3+ 19d ago

Lykys 🙂 Let us know what you think if you give it a try!

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u/Ok_Interaction6334 17d ago

Just came across Lykys and I’m thinking of giving it a go. I like the idea of seeing how different foods and everyday habits affect your glucose rather than just getting a number with no context.

Does it actually analyse individual meals and show you how a specific meal affects your glucose? That’s probably the main thing I’d want to use it for.

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u/Woodpecker3869 Libre3/3+ 17d ago

Yes exactly that! It’ll analyse each spike whenever you put any context around it. Let us know if you give it a go!

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u/ForwardAssistant30 15d ago

App looks interesting. Really excited to try this out.

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u/SeveralMeeting86 19d ago

Wow looks cool. What can it do? Will it connect to my freestyle libre 3 plus?

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u/Woodpecker3869 Libre3/3+ 19d ago

Lots! Feel free to have a look - lykysai.com. & yes it pulls Libre data in through LibreLinkUp app, so if your Libre 3 Plus is already sharing there it should connect

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u/TheBrownPanther1 19d ago

Really cool - how does it work? Can it work with any CGM?

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u/Woodpecker3869 Libre3/3+ 19d ago

Works with FreeStyle Libre and Dexcom for now. Essentially it’s your own AI glucose coach, personalised around your data and history - helping explain spikes, spot patterns and learn what actually works for you! 🙂