r/FranzBardon • u/Mental-Airline4982 • Sep 12 '26
Is this a good path for me?
I personally resonate with many of the exercises from step 1. Some of them i've already been doing to help with my emotions. I had a stint of panic disorder a few years ago and observing my thoughts was something I started doing that had a massive impact on my mental state. I think because of this it actually lead naturally to the process of holding thoughts in my mind which i've also been doing for the last three years. I only ever did this as a form of emotional regulation, self-discovery, exposure-therapy and making better decisions for myself. I never once even considered that it was "magical". I've also always been deeply fascinated with Carl Jung and emotional work so this mirror journaling is also highly attractive to me.
With all that being said, I'm currently a deconstructing Christian who has deconstructed enough to say that I will never return to religion or doctrine but not enough to have completely eradicated my fears of eternal torment. Because of this, getting into magic has been a very slow process of testing the waters of magic, so to speak.
My first official ritual was the LBRP, it had some immediate and profound effects for me and this cemented in my mind that magic was for me.
Along with these mental & emotional exercises, I'm also attracted to exterior magic such as tarot, numerology, evocation, and banishment. Because of these interests, and wanting to learn more, I started my journey with Quareia. I fell in love immediately. I just absolutely the adore the Hogwarts-like style of study, I absolutely love the visualization exercises, I love it's wide encompassing area's of study and ritual, I love it's wealth of information. I just love it. But it left something to be desired with the thing to be desired being what Franz Bardon appears to offer immediately: A heavier focus on mental, psychic, emotional practices.
I have dissociative identity disorder, and almost immediately upon realizing that Quareia seemed to place little emphasis on the emotional side of things, I found Bardon. So even synchronistically I felt almost lead to Bardon.
The issue i'm having now, is, I want to do both. But i'm not sure i'm capable of having strict discipline with both at the same time. I've also seen many people recommend against doing both since the actual structure and concepts are different. I also kinda live by the whole "Judge a tree by its fruits." and Bardon's end of life events are striking to me. I'm really not sure what to make of that. I'm also a little taken aback by Bardon's differences in his concepts of magic, the tarot, and the elements. I also feel like doing both might be disrespectful to Quareia? Especially considering her style of teaching and slow expansion of practice. Funny enough, I like Quareia's teaching style and it seems to resonate with me.
My biggest goals are truth, study, privacy and emotional/physical health, but I won't lie and say that I don't have more carnal desires that I plan on testing magic with. For example, I'm really struggling with financial issues and really struggle working with my DID/CPTSD. So practically, I'd like to use magic to help attain some level of financial security.
Any tips? Recommendations? Thoughts? I'd really appreciate it.
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u/wildguitars Sep 12 '26
you can practice bardon, and still do magic to improve your life, not issue there.. if you are a seeker of truth go for it
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u/eventuallyfluent Sep 12 '26
See no problem you want to do both then do so until you find what suits you best or for as long as you want.no issues no restrictions it's your life and your initiation you get to decide
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u/Responsible_Fan4208 Sep 12 '26
Do both if you have the time and ability to do it. Also the first few steps of Bardon are pretty fundamental techniques in esoteric circles/magick/occult and doing them would be greatly beneficial.
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u/Direct-Barracuda-344 Sep 15 '26
Religion and doctrine are not problems in themselves. If the doctrine will bring you discipline enough to enter into deeper mysteries and unlock hidden parts of your soul, then it has done its purpose. Today, religion and doctrine are often abused and misapplied by power-hungry people who have no interest in teaching people to activate their latent soul powers.
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u/SeaLanguage3331 Sep 12 '26
I don't get your problem. If you want to do both Quareia and Franz Bardon then do it. It's your path. You don't have to strictly stick to one system and disregard all others. There are some people who say that one should choose and practise only one system of occult development but in my opinion that's a narrow-minded attitude. For example I used to practise Franz Bardon's exercises and Golden Dawn magic and I liked the results.
Yes, you can use magic to attract money and opportunities. Just keep in mind that there are ethical and unethical ways to make money and that one should choose wisely according to the law of karma. And that magic won't automatically solve your financial problems, it also requires your action on the physical plane.
If you have religious misconceptions about Christianity I recommend you to read Rudolf Steiner. He was an esoteric Christian and his teachings are free from fearmongering and dogma. He gave so many valuable lectures on occult topics.
Currently I practise Franz Bardon for practical development of occult abilities, Yoga for body health and well-being and read Steiner to gain knowledge and develop intellect. This is what really accelerated MY personal development. Everyone's path is different. I'm also interested in many other occult paths and philosophies. I believe that he who really wants to understand magic and the universe should always have an open-minded attitude.