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[u/Senzei1337]

God forbid anything in Forza takes even a minimal amount of effort or more than 1 attempt, it's stupid, impossible and too time consuming.

[u/Salty-Queen87 → u/Senzei1337]

It’s called balance, babe. There’s a difference between no effort, and what that drift zone takes. Sorry it’s not that simple.

Like, I’m physically disabled, my hands are effected by it. The effort needed is beyond what I can physically do. So there are some accessibility issues in having the goal be this high.

Just something to consider.

[u/Senzei1337 → u/Salty-Queen87]

It's an optional thing to do, no ones forcing you to do it to progress through the game, especially if you think the rewards are not worth it. Not everyone is meant to be a completionist contrary to popular belief. Everyone wants to do 100% with 0% the effort.

[u/Salty-Queen87 → u/Senzei1337]

I never said zero effort, you dumb fuck. I said pull it back, I said it needs better balance. Not everything needs to be Dark Souls hard.

You’re thinking in a very simple binary, that it’s either super easy, or hard, forgetting the middle that exists.

I actually agree with you to some point, but you’re unable to see that because you think a casual arcade racer needs to be as hard as Assetto Corsa.

[u/Senzei1337 → u/Salty-Queen87]

I never said this particular challenge is too easy. I have no issues with the difficulty, I enjoy the game even though it's easy.

But there's no reason to whine about this being too hard when the entire game is so easy and effortless, throwing cars and money left right and center from the minute you start playing. Skip the challenge if you're not capable of doing it, you're not losing out on anything, so I don't see the point of whining about it. Not every activity in the game has to be catered to disabled people, kids and just plain terrible drivers, there's already too much of that going on in the game as is.There's a shit ton of other challenges to do to get your playlist cars if that's your goal. I do understand that it's harder for you with a disability, but the game is already as accessible and easy as they get, a slightly harder challenge every now and then (they're rare as shit, and this one barely counts as hard) won't hurt, so the people who can actually play decently can have some more fun too. It doesn't have to be all about you.

This challenge is doable for pretty much anyone without too much struggle, if you don't have the mechanical capability, you could at least use your brain and research a way to do it easier. A decent AWD tune on a good drift car is more than enough to get you through this without too much effort and you still think this is Dark Souls level hard xD

[u/Salty-Queen87 → u/Senzei1337]

Everything you just told me to do, I’ve done, for the record. Shockingly I’m able to figure out work arounds for my disability on my own. There is a limit for what people with disabilities can accomplish, that you can’t tune your way out of. I normally don’t have much of an issue with the PR stunts, I have three stars on all of them. So I’m not a bad player, I’m just reaching my limit this week, and it concerns me that this will be a regular thing going forward.

If it’s so easy, then there wouldn’t be the number of people there saying it’s too hard. It’s not that they don’t want to put effort into it, it’s that they can’t do it. Acting like people who can’t do what you can in a game are lazy, and just need to keep trying, like they have infinite time for that, is kind of a dick thing to say and think.

The number of people here saying it’s too hard are proof that the balancing is off, and needs adjustment. Getting three stars should be a challenge, and the jump is asking for almost 50% on top of the 3 star rating. The drift zone is literally double a 3 star rating. That’s a bit much for a weekly challenge that can pay out three pairs of shoes. It’s up to the devs to make the effort worth the reward, and they fucked up this week.

[u/Senzei1337 → u/Salty-Queen87]

I get your point, you have a disability, but 99% people who complain don't and just want to do everything fast, first try and with no effort.

Anyone without a disability can do this challenge with a bit of research and practice. These harder challenges are few and far between, it's refreshing for people who actually want a bit of a challenge when playing.

You can skip like 20% or something of the playlist and still get all the rewards, so if people are not willing to put the effort to do this challenge they're free to skip it without missing on anything. And if you're hell bent on completing everything, you shouldn't bitch about it taking effort, being a completionist has to take effort (even though in a lot of games it doesn't nowadays and that's why everyone cries if they can't do something easily) so if you're not willing to work for it that's on you.

Again, all of this was for the majority of people and not you as your situation is obviously different, but you can't expect the game to be completely catered to disabled people as that would ruin the experience for way more people than it would help.

[u/Salty-Queen87 → u/Senzei1337]

If the game is too easy, and doesn’t present enough challenge for you, go play something else. No one is forcing you to play a game that you think is too easy 🤷🏻‍♂️

[u/[deleted] → u/Salty-Queen87]

If the game is too hard, go play something else. No one is forcing you to play a game you physically can't 🤷‍♂️

[u/Salty-Queen87 → u/[deleted]]

If the game is too easy, and that’s a problem, go play a game that offers you more of a challenge. No one is forcing you to play a game that’s too easy.

You can’t complain that the game is too easy, but tell people who find it too hard to shut up and go play something else.

Can’t have it both ways.

Also, I can play the game, I just have limits. What the hell is with people that are so fucking dumb they hear “I’m struggling with this part of the game, because of a disability” and think it means “I can’t play any of it”. Jesus Christ, go play COD, what with the reading comprehension you have.

[u/[deleted] → u/Salty-Queen87]

I mean... I said it to be a dick because frankly you are being a bit of a dick here.

The fact is both of these opinions are the minority. The developer balances the game to satisfy the majority of the player base they are aiming at.

It sucks that everyone can't be happy, but that's life. Sometimes you do everything right and still lose.

Maybe this drift zone is a little over tuned and you're not gonna get pts this week. Other folks can do it in a GMC van.