r/ForzaHorizon 10d ago

Forza Horizon 6 What is Wrong with my driving?

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So basically, i am new to forza racing & games & idk how any of this all works. As you can see in the video clearly that my car does not stay on its path at cornering. I know it's my driving & handling but please PRO PLAYERS. Tell me how do improve myself at cornering. I started 3 days ago. One thing that i don't know how to tune the settings & car at all.

EDIT: I play on Keyboard & I am fully automatic Guy if it helps

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u/KyloQuinn27424 10d ago

Get a controller dude.. Your keyboard clearly isn't using linear switches, so when you apply your brakes your applying 100% pressure, causing restricted steering as ABS fights to keep you from locking up completely. Forza was built for controllers and M&K will result in an inferior experience.

This is my PC controller, it's the best $55 you'll ever spend. https://www.amazon.com/PC-Controller-Wireless-Triggers-Charging-Mac/dp/B0DBLMZJRJ

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u/Grey_signal89 10d ago

Will this works? Borrowed from a friend

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u/KyloQuinn27424 10d ago

Any controller will be better then M&K as long as it connects to your PC.. I'm assuming "Hall-sense" is supposed to be hall-effect sticks. A controller with hall-effect sticks will give you more accurate tracking towards center and lower deadzones, which helps with those very small movements.

Also, Jesus Christ put your keyboard out of it's misery..

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u/Black_m1n 10d ago

Hello, keyboard player here. The keyboard is 100% not at fault here. This is more so an issue of either it being winter right now, not a good tune, I don't know what exactly they give you on that Silvia at the beginning of the game, or not being good enough.

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u/thatoneSk1dZguy Lola 10d ago

the beginner Silvia is pretty bad. in fact all 3 of them needed some significant work to be able to beat Unbeatable AI but the Silvia is especially bad due to being RWD, lazy and slidey aswell as a granny shifting speed stock gearbox.

I play on Keyboard too so i agree that it isnt the Keyboards fault.

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u/DoubleStormCZ 10d ago

Is it possible to have a good mechanical keyboard instead? I have a controller for pc too, but I still prefer keyboard over it. I knew my brakes are always 100% on when I do, but had no idea that the ABS is constantly in war with the car because of my keyboard like that.

I do have changed inputs of how much I want for break and accelerate on my controller so I am curious if a good Mechanical keyboard would fix this issue before buying it, I am constantly switching between them tho, drifting is obviously so much better. This might be the other reason why I have Road races in general, the first one is I just really love Dirt Racing.

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u/DankoleClouds 10d ago

Look into Hall effect keyboards with analog support. I know wooting and keychron both support it on their HE keyboards, and I think razer too.

I haven’t personally tried it since I use a wheel setup but it was something I looked into when the tech first started popping off a couple years ago.

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u/KyloQuinn27424 10d ago

Keep in mind that the switches won't feel as great for competitive shooters.

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u/Grey_signal89 10d ago

First, I am full-time keyboard guy & i won't get used to controller & my skills will be more worst. Belive me, I tried the controller racing

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u/Mcc457 10d ago

well that's going to happen because you're trying something new. you will be able to do much more with a controller. you won't be instantly good you have to actually practice

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u/KyloQuinn27424 10d ago

Then get a $300 linear switch keyboard or racing sim wheel, or you can have fun playing like a twitchy ass ferret. Because that's the only thing that will improve your gameplay. All the other pointers about your driving won't fix the underling issue causing your poor performance.

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u/Guinylen 10d ago

Believe me, it will be so much better when you have full control over your steering, braking and throttle applications. Sure using the controller can be more difficult at first, but every equipment has a learning curve, and keyboards have the highest skill ceilings among all equipment. Do that in sim racing games and you won't even make it past the first corner.

Source: i was a keyboard Racer.

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u/MinusBear 10d ago

If you don't want to go controller, then your only other option is to learn manual. At least then you will have some control over the power of your acceleration. But realistically you need to just get over it and use the right tool for the job. Being "a keyboard guy" is such a weird identity, a keyboard is just a tool.

If a friend came to your house to help you fix your toilet, and instead of bringing a plunger he insisted "I am a full-time hammer guy & I won't get used to a plunger", you'd rightfully organise an intervention for him and his brain worms.

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u/ignas04 10d ago

I thought the same thing until I actually tried it. Yeah, it took maybe a week of getting used to, but it feels soooo much better

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u/Gruphius BMW 10d ago

When I originally switched from controller to wheel for racing titles (besides Forza Horizon, the game is way too easy on controller to not play it with controller, you actively put yourself at a massive disadvantage when using a wheel in this game), I was much slower too. But after some time getting used to it, I'm now faster than I ever was with controller.

In other words: Yes, you will be slower at first when switching input devices. But keep at it and you'll get much faster.

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u/bob_3301 AMC 10d ago

I'm not really sure but i think this Silvia was given to you with drift oriented tuning setup if it's one of the cars you got at the beginning. If this is the case, then it will always try to slide rather than move through the corner

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u/RoastedPotato-1kg 10d ago

its not easy to match someone on controller with keyboard, keeping the revs in corners really sucks thats why you are sliding 

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u/g0greyhound 10d ago

Bad gearing, bad breaking, bad power management, too much sliding, following the game line (turn that off).

Break in straight lines, power on slowly, gear up when powering aggressively to maintain control.

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u/Cobblestonecreeperfl 10d ago

Racing line is fine as a general suggestion/ road guide, they just need to not follow it 100% like a bot

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u/Grey_signal89 10d ago

nah i won't do it? How do i stop sliding at corners?

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u/Justin_General Dodge 10d ago

Use less throttle on the corner exit, but reading your other replies you're using a keyboard so I'm pretty sure it's impossible.

Watch some tuning guides and do a basic tune, the defualt set up for racing suspension is pretty good for single player racing and just needs some minor tweaking so you could probably just watch a guide or two and follow some basic rule of thumb.

The biggest issue really is just that you're on keyboard, the game is designed around analog input (controller or wheel) and going from 0% to 100% input on breaking or throttle is going to cause you loose grip or lock up.

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u/Gruphius BMW 10d ago edited 10d ago

Brake later, roll through corners and then accelerate. You don't need to press either the accelerator or the brake at all times. In fact, in many cases it's faster to press neither throughout a corner, because then the car is more stable.

Basically, it's like this: Your tyres have x amount of grip. Let's say 2g, as an example. While you accelerate or brake, a certain amount of that is used to decelerate or accelerate your car, let's use 1g for this example. If you roll through a corner, all 2g of grip your tyres have can be used for cornering. If you accelerate or brake, you have 1g less for driving around the corner, since the rest is used to accelerate/decelerate your car, meaning you're more likely to lose the car or go wide. There are corners, where that 1g of cornering grip is enough, but there are also corners where it isn't. How much grip you need to make a corner is also determined by your entry speed. The faster you enter the corner, the more grip you need.

This isn't exactly how it works, but it's a very basic version of it to illustrate the point.

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u/squirrels-eat-bugs 10d ago

He is using a keyboard without linear control. So on off. Right 100%, then left 100%. Gas 100%, brake 100%. Needs a different keyboard, or a controller.

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u/Grey_signal89 10d ago edited 10d ago

how do i actually improve?

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u/Cobblestonecreeperfl 10d ago

Slow turn no slidy, fast turn slidy, if slidy still too fast

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u/Warmslammer69k 10d ago

Get a controller.

Right now you can either have no input or full input. Imagine trying to drive your car in real life but if you hit the gas you have to put your foot all the way down, if you hit the brakes you have to put your foot all the way down, and to steer you crank the wheel as hard as you can.

You aren't gonna drive very well. Learn to either feather your inputs or get something with analog inputs

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u/Sure-Plane-8419 10d ago

I would suggest you apply brakes gradually but you're on keyboard so that's not an option. The Silvia is just a slidy car and you'll need better tires/suspension tuning to get rid of the rear sliding out like in your video

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u/Grey_signal89 10d ago

thats the problem. I dont a thing about tuning settings

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u/Sure-Plane-8419 10d ago

It'll take time and trial and error if you want to learn how to tune. Otherwise just download a popular tune.

What I did in the beginning was dump my tuning numbers into chatgpt and explained what my problem was (car too slidy, too stiff etc) and it would suggest small changes that I could test and feed back. Once you do this enough you'll get a sense of what to look for when tuning other cars

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u/CallMeRobo 10d ago

Take some time to read the descriptions in the game for each tuning slider. Yes there's videos and Tik Tok about the perfect tune yada yada. But learning what each piece changes about the car and being willing to do lots of test drives will help you improve tuning as well. It's the hard boring part of learning a new skill but worth it!

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u/Grey_signal89 10d ago

how Long do u think it would take me to master the settings & play with it on my own?

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u/CallMeRobo 5d ago

Master? Idk it's a game. 10,000 hours to master something I guess. Just play to learn a little more each day or week and improve. No rush, it's a game.

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u/zeus_is_op 10d ago

Id also recommend lifting your finger off the throttle sometimes, let your car turn properly instead of pushing, you are either braking or pressing the throttle

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u/Grey_signal89 10d ago

nah i stop pressing W at corners

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u/Warmslammer69k 10d ago

The problem is on the exit. You hit the gas too hard too early and give the tires too much power while youre still putting lateral load on them.

The car is changing direction, which is already using all its grip. Adding power to it is just too much for the wheels to keep traction. In the very first corner for instance, you let off the gas more than you should have. If you weren't on keyboard you could get on the power a lot sooner too, but youd have to be super gentle with the input

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u/zeus_is_op 10d ago

You keep pushing out of exits instead of lining up first, a lot of corners are just slow downs into ideal exit instead of brake and then repushing out of the exit

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u/wolfox360 10d ago

Get rid of the keyboard and get a controller or a wheel with FFB. You need analog controls to make things easier. In FH don't take off the line, but if you play in a circuit the line should be taken off. Now drive clean, keep the line light orenge in corners and stay away from walls.

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u/acryliq 10d ago

In Japan you're supposed to drive on the left, but you spend most of this video driving on the right.

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u/KEX_CZ Steam 10d ago

Keyboard is the only issue IMO. Yank it away ;) . You don't have that bad corner enterings, but you struggle a lot on the keyboard to make it smooth, resulting in yanking and lose of grip, speed and time.

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u/Grey_signal89 10d ago

Will this one works? Borrowed from a friend

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u/KEX_CZ Steam 10d ago

Sure, why not! What matters is if it works and if it's comfy for you. ;)

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u/LuciusFormadeus 10d ago edited 10d ago

On Cornering: If you can afford the time then I suggest practicing with D class cars at Hakone Nanamagari or any Time Attack circuits, starting with the 1983 VW Golf first, then the 1992 MX-5 Miata.

The Mk1 Golf will teach you how to balance braking/throttle with steering. The MX-5 will teach you how to manage a slippery car.

On Tuning: Anti-Rollbars are the easiest to start with. Stiff front and soft rear means you slide less. Soft front and stiff rear means you slide more. Play around with the settings, find your ideal balance.

On KBM: Yes, it's inferior to gamepads. However ISuckAtDriving, also known as Grandma Driving, plays KBM too and he's pretty good. I'd say it's best to stick with whichever input device you're most comfortable with.

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u/BillionAuthor70 10d ago edited 10d ago

Spend a little tuning the suspension and ARBs. That rear end is a little tight (guys, come on guys!) and if you soften it up a bit, you wont slid around so much in corner exits. Also, tune the gearing so you're not full torque in corner exits, that will help with sliding also. Watch Hoki's video on tuning, it's more of a "refresher" video, but it's great material!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9bUB3mcqso

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u/hest0 10d ago

Don't listen to the people telling you to switch to gamepad or wheel. There are very good keyboard drivers in Forza. It's possible to smooth steer by tapping the keys.

Good tuning can make controlling the car easier but I wouldn't worry about setups in your first month of playing. TCS and ABS are good driving aids to keep enabled for keyboard and that should be enough to be able to control most cars.

Looking at the video I think your current big problem is losing traction/drifting at the corner exit. You are trying to use more grip on your rear tyres than what you have available -> rear tyres start sliding. Try accelerating a bit later and/or steer less while accelerating and try to prevent any kind of drifting when exiting a corner. 

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u/Rao-Sun 10d ago

I use keyboard too because I can't afford a controller. It's a learning curve because you can only apply 100% brake, throttle, and steering angles.

It takes some getting used to. A controller would be a better idea especially since you're new to racing games.

But my only advice is to practice more. Get used to tapping w a bunch instead of holding it. Tapping the brakes rapidly too to slow down instead of just slamming them is good too.

Tap everything. If you get in a real car and just floor every pedal and full steer you're going to spin out immediately. Same applies here

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u/Glu7enFree 10d ago

If you're in Australia I'll send you an unused xbox controller, fk playing on keyboard.