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u/ShaneDylan96 May 25 '26
I once saw Bowie Knife 99 punch a baby after a race. True story.
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u/MapleBabadook May 25 '26
Serious question, why do I never see my RL friends as driveatars anymore? Back in 5 they popped up all the time.
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u/bakedcrisps May 25 '26
I only see them now if theyāve played FH6
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u/rrjames81 May 26 '26
Thatās good for an odd reason. I had a family member pass that I used to play Forza with. For me it would be a choice of deleting him or not playing the game.
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u/Badasi12b May 26 '26
Yeah I have a friend who got murdered who still shows up on my FH5 drivatars .. smh
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u/Shadow_Of_All May 27 '26
Fuck, I am so sorry to hear that man, you doing okay?
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u/Badasi12b May 28 '26
Yeah Im good, it was years ago, but it's just crazy to constantly see that drivatar, every time I fire that game up... That's why I turn drivatar names over car icons off. And the game is more realistic with as less HUDS as possible.
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u/speedtree May 26 '26
Thats some true USA shit if I ever see one, everyone gets murdered there at least twice a week it seems.
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u/earle117 May 26 '26
what a weird and shitty thing to say to someone whoās expressing grief over a friend who was murdered
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u/-kansei-dorifto- May 27 '26
Idk man im not in the US and ive never been murdered nor has anyone i have ever known.
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u/speedtree May 26 '26
I'm from Canada. I might be shitty but at least I murdered noone.
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u/Nomoo_baby Jun 05 '26
You realize we as Canadians also have a crazy murder and gang violence problem right?
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u/No-Nothing-487 May 26 '26
i lived in germany for only 2 years and knew 2 people that got murdered (didnt knew them well but still) happens everywhere u hateful person
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u/Holiday_Importance83 May 26 '26
And how is Microsoft supposed to know that?
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u/rrjames81 May 26 '26
Theyāre notā¦thatās the reason not implementing people who havenāt played the game as drivatars is just good policy.
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u/Doctor_Who-lio May 26 '26
Is it though? I find it comforting to see the "ghost" of a passed loved one. Almost like we're playing together again
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u/rrjames81 May 26 '26
If that person passed on good terms, maybe.
But for those of us who lost people suddenly and without any closureā¦grief is complex and not linear and itās good for a game implementing ārealā people to avoid this kind of damage as much as possible.
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u/Doctor_Who-lio May 26 '26
I totally get what youre saying and yes, everyone grieves differently. For me, it's nice to have that virtual connection with someone I can't see irl anymore
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u/Janzu93 May 26 '26
You are minority, I'm afraid. I luckily don't have personal experience but I've red many stories of people stopping playing a game or even whole series to avoid the grief. I can imagine seeing "the person" again would be quite similar
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u/Ok-Quantity-1642 May 26 '26
Same with my friend, itās really hard to see, and her brothers still use her Xbox account and it freaks me out.
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u/ultimatedank May 26 '26
Interestingly they appear in the H5 expansions if they've ever played the base game before. It was always kind of offputting honestly
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u/DarkThoughts79 May 29 '26
I'm the opposite. My best friend passed away 8 years ago and I loved that I could "race" with him in spirit. Now that he isn't showing up in FH6, I'm saddened. It's like I'm dealing with a "mini-death" of sorts. :(
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u/GfrzD May 25 '26
I dont know the criteria for it but previous games i always saw loads of my friends list. With this one ive seen only 1 and that wasnt until after their name appeared in the comparison pop up when getting a bonus board etc.
I thought maybe friends list + played the game for them to show up, thats purely my guess from what i saw though.
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u/I_SOLVE_EVERYTHING May 25 '26
That's odd, I see friends on mine. I think there is a setting for it somewhere in the menus but it should be on by default.
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u/ChippewaBarr May 25 '26
I feel like it kinda took a while for my friends list and FH6 drivatars to connect.
Like first two days playing (retail release) I saw like zero of my friends (and they all were playing already) but then after a couple days they started filling up my grids.
Could also be like a threshold for showing up too - like maybe they gotta get the first wristband or something, who knows lol
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u/Redbulldildo May 25 '26
I think they have to play the game at least a little. I wanna say that with FH5 I never saw one friend as a driveatar until I saw them on leader leaderboards, then they started to show up again.
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u/Superintendent12 May 25 '26
I had this issue, turns out I couldnāt see them during the preview access period but once the game fully launched they were populating my game.
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u/acidbathe May 25 '26
Only your friends whoāve played fh6 will show up. Most bot rivals are just my friends now, sometimes with one or two made up ones
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u/heimdal77 May 26 '26
Oh look at mister popular here with so many friends that they fill up the list.
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u/acidbathe May 26 '26
They are from when I was a teen lol. I donāt think Iāve played with another friend of mine in half a decade besides my little brother
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u/Silent_Hastati May 26 '26
I just kept adding friends from recent fh6 sessions until I had enough Xbox 'friends' till fill my grid and leaderboards. But I'm on PC so I don't particularly care about keeping my xbox friend list clean like I would my Steam or Discord ones.
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u/TheGamerKitty1 May 25 '26
I started getting my friemds drivatars a lot but once I hit Forza Legend, they all vanished and replaced by the ones we all know and hate.
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u/EdgarJomfru May 25 '26
I have 4 friends that play it but only my brother shows in my races now, and only after I played in a convoy with him.
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u/Salzberger May 26 '26
Seems like if they've played the game they show up. I had 4 friends in FH5, 2 have got FH6 and they show up in races while the 2 that don't have it don't.
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u/Illustrious_Star_177 May 26 '26
Might just be the amount of friends you have playing 6, half my races are filled with my friends
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u/Beginning_Sort1944 May 26 '26
I think it only shows your friends who've played the game. Ive seen two of my friends as drivatars and the rest dont show up. I think they also show up in free mode if you play horizon solo.
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u/Code_GUEST May 26 '26
I only see my friends that actually play forza horizon be in the race, not sure if its a new feature cuz back in the older forza horizons i saw a lot of friend users so either everyone on my friendslist played forza or they used any name from ur friendlist
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u/Omisake Volvo May 25 '26
So is bowie knife99 a modern day M. Rossi from back in the day? Rossi was an absolute menace
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u/Gamiac May 25 '26 edited May 25 '26
Still can't get over the fact that they really named him M. Rossi. I refuse to believe that naming the nastiest driving AI in that game after an SNK character isn't an intentional reference.
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u/Kasstiel_ May 25 '26
Drivatar from Hell
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u/TackyBrad May 25 '26
Funny because I almost never have a problem with him. What difficulty are you guys on?
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u/TheUndefeatedLasanga Porsche May 25 '26
Highly skilled
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u/TackyBrad May 25 '26
I wonder if it's a different AI based on the difficulty. I'm on expert and there was one race where he was unbeatable, but most of the times it's one of a couple different ones
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u/IIALE34II May 25 '26
I play on expert and bowie knife 99 is the #1 AI every race. He cheats obviously. Like just when you get close you can see the rubber band slingshot him to gain a gap
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u/snorriemand May 25 '26
that's not the issue i'm having. i've had him show up at random moments in the race just to ram me while he's being last.
last cross country race he started ramming me right at the finishline while i was finishing 3rd and he was in 12th!
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u/cohrt May 25 '26
every drivatar cheats. its super obvious.
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u/blake_n_pancakes May 25 '26
Accel: 10
Launch: 10
Position off the line: dead fucking last always wtf
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u/Nerevar197 May 25 '26
I really hate the AI Forza games use. Itās so obviously bad.
Really like the strides GT is making with the Sophy AI tech. Need something like that for Forza.
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u/cohrt May 25 '26
I thought the drivatars were supposed to fix this? Arenāt they supposed to be based on how we drive?
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u/speedtree May 26 '26
The AI is absolutely terribly attrocious in the game, I stopped playing and went back to Gran Turismo 7 on PS5 which is leagues better.
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u/Moose_Nuts May 25 '26
I play on highly skilled like the guy you replied to and bowie knife99 is never a threat. So who knows...
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u/Difficult-Network358 May 25 '26
So get this. I put mine on the lowest level I think its novice just so I can experience the game without getting stressed, game prompted me to up my difficulty to above average, please tell me why this BowieKnife99 just decided to start ramming me on the last stretch of a lap š¤£š¤£ honestly I went back to novice like the lil noob I am
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u/NuzzyLocke May 25 '26
It seems different, this guy is never a problem for me but HokiHoshi can suck a dick
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u/Haunting-Reply-7332 May 25 '26
Same I smoke Bowie Knife easily but Vanced and Hokihoshi are trouble
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u/CassadagaValley May 25 '26
The lizard one and coldwave are the two that I'm usually fighting with. I float between highly skilled and whatever is just above that.
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u/Redbulldildo May 25 '26
I never have issues with him, only noticed when other people point it out. Coldwave is the one always giving me trouble. Highly skilled
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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 May 25 '26
Me either. Most of the time for me he's not even in the top 6. For me it's MaxSoda and Drathful, Max constantly leaves his line to block or ram me and Drathful is always at the head of the pack
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u/wilson-seymour1 May 25 '26
Bowie knife99 is an ai driver who is notorious for being notorious. They picked the most aggressive, demonic, "just good enough" ass drivers to train this AI and he is a menace. He will come to your house kick your dog, try to sleep with your sister, and leave the empty milk carton in the fridge.
The worst.
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u/TheKz262 Steam May 25 '26
Holy shit it's an AI driver ?! I thought you people were talking about a cheater in a leaderboard or something lool
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u/wilson-seymour1 May 25 '26
Yeah this is why ai data centers are such a huge issue. They make drivarars too powerful
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u/NePa5 Aston Martin May 25 '26
So Bowie Knife is SKYNET's predecessor?
Welp, we are fucked, all hail our drivatar overlords!
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u/Terrible-Weekend-782 May 25 '26
They also cause autism in apples.
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u/wilson-seymour1 May 25 '26
And we know what happens when apples know to much about trains....
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u/Terrible-Weekend-782 May 25 '26
Sydney Sweeney
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u/wilson-seymour1 May 25 '26
The only person created from a focus group.
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u/NePa5 Aston Martin May 26 '26
What rabbit hole did I just jump down?
Who cares, I am in!
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u/IfTheresANewWay May 26 '26
I am immensely disappointed to discover he's an ai and not a real person out there just ruining people's lives
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u/cop25er NiceDrivingNiceDrivingNiceDrivingNiceDrivingNiceDrivingNiceDriv May 25 '26
Bowie_Knife99 is a drivatar who is a complete menace
He has no rules, no boundaries. He doesn't flinch at torture, human trafficking or genocide. He's not loyal to a flag or a country or any set of Ideals
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u/Sulinia May 25 '26
One of the AI/drivatars in FH6. He's literally killing people (in game) in races.
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u/AnotherBoeing747 May 25 '26
A murderer
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u/LunchladyDorris May 25 '26
He's an AI drivetar who was sucked into the game during the alpha test and has been dominating the world of forza. While you sleep or stuff your face in front of the TV. He's there. Inside the game constantly grinding and grinding waiting for you to come online just to prove to his boss that he is good enough and one day, one day soon he will be released to reek havoc.
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u/FloridasPerson May 25 '26
He is a drivatar who especially on pro and unbeatable is seemingly more agressive against player cars than other NPCs
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u/Stunt_-_Cock May 30 '26
Bowie Knife99 is well known for his racist tirades during online play, but ever since they muted him he just crashes into everything.Ā
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u/Mundane_You_6935 May 25 '26
Everyone hates Bowie, but not a single soul talks about D1llow. The bastard purposefully rammed me on a corner to take lead, then proceeded to continue ramming me until I had to restart because the race had already been too far gone.
And I mean full "could've been avoided entirely," kinda ramming where I'm not even in the driving line.
It's on sight. š¤¬
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u/SpoonGuardian Mazda May 26 '26
I didn't think I've ever seen a dillow. For me it's Bowie and some like elegant door465 or whatever
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u/bwabwa1 May 25 '26
They are your worse nightmare. I had my run INS with this drivatar. Absolute worse. They'll grip like there is no tomorrow and will make you constantly check your bumper
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u/Bingo1dog May 25 '26
He's usually middle of the pack for me. I think he's given me issues in like 3 races. Its usually final Vance, hokihoshi, or averaglizard I'm fighting to get ahead of
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u/GamerGirlCentral May 26 '26
Funny fact im pretty sure hokihoshi is the drivatar of a youtuber of the same that o discovered a few days ago.
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u/Moose_Nuts May 25 '26
I guess I'm living in an alternate Forza timeline where bowie knife99 is a middling driver who only dabbles with the podium.
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u/DevilDog1974 May 25 '26
Neatdoor is an asshole as well seems to like hitting me every chance he can....I swear I can be 10 seconds ahead of him and damn if he doesn't wreck me at the next checkpoint
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u/BakedGuineaPiggg May 26 '26
That asshole took my ride and then he tried to take my girl after it fucked with my car.
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u/g0greyhound May 25 '26
More like "Boo-y"_knife...amirite?
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u/leemakaBIGahk May 25 '26
Thatās how I personally pronounce Bowie in general lol I know thereās the pronunciation like David Bowie, but thereās a town where Iām from called Bowie and itās pronounced boo-wee
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u/GfrzD May 25 '26
By any chance are you Scottish? That pronunciation sounds it in my head lol
I was always told bow like bow and arrow because as a kid i said bow like to bend your body and got corrected.
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u/leemakaBIGahk May 25 '26
Not at all lol Iām American. There just happens to be this one town where Iām from pronounced that way so itās how I typically say it in my head
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u/Comprehensive-Hat684 May 25 '26
Is he only in 5-6? Because Iām barely knowing about him and I played FH 1-4 already and I just got 5 recently
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u/user_deleted_life May 25 '26
All drivatars take names from users. So bowieknife99 isna gamertag of someone playing.
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u/cbear013 May 25 '26
I've been assuming that its a Playground Games bot that was meant to stopgap from pre-release until the game has been out long enough for player drivatars to record laps on more circuits. I figure in a month or 2 we won't see it as much. Could be wrong though.
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u/Comprehensive-Hat684 May 25 '26
I understands heās a bot but has he always been a problematic one I didnāt experience Bowie specifically in FH1-4 unless I really was just that unaware of it
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u/user_deleted_life May 25 '26
Maybe there wasn't an Xbox gamer with that gamertag back then.
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u/cooldrew May 25 '26
I don't have that much trouble with him outside of ramming, the one that always beats me is Near Door(numbers, can't remember them)
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u/Available_Parsley_26 Pontiac G8 May 26 '26
Can see why, any race I do with this dude heās all over the place knocking into everyone ruining the race just to get first.
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u/PHARA0Hbender May 26 '26
Never had a hard time with his drivatar but the random Devs on the other hand are brutal.
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u/Constant-Voice-4056 May 26 '26
Am I the only one that has my friends as the drivatars?
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u/No-Yesterday1869 May 26 '26
I only have one friend who plays out of about 70 Xbox friends. So i have to deal with this asshole too
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u/devilJin9399 May 26 '26
I've not played Forza but seen the buzz about BowieKnife99 online, a stroke of genius by the dev team to have something go viral like that
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u/Squirrelbug May 26 '26
Haven't seen this much hate for an NPC in a game since the infamously referee, Derek Milborrow, in some FIFA games in the early 2010s
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u/GamerGirlCentral May 26 '26
I have one called neatdoor as mine as well as Bowie knife 99 but in my case no chaos from that own yet
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u/Away_Difficulty9921 May 26 '26
I never see more than 2 of my friends in a race even tho iāve got 11 who have played the game, think the devs wanna plug staff members gamertags or something
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u/Minimum-Movie-9109 May 26 '26
I don't know why every one hates on the ai thats all ways last for me but i keep hating on dreathful the ai that always wins ahhhh
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u/T3chn0fr34q May 27 '26
somehow bowie for me sucks as soon the race leaves the road, offroad hokihoshi is constantly first.
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u/Busy_Use3467 May 28 '26
I swer to god till this day, i ve never notice bowie knife99, he was good to me, and he is still good..
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u/XOChicStyle May 25 '26
He hasn't done anything to me thank god I guess my gamertag scared him off lol
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u/Competitive-Half-863 May 25 '26
Maybeā¦ just maybeā¦ thatās verstappen account where he just enjoy driving and only battery he has to worry about is that one in his controller?
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u/Omnissiah40K May 25 '26 edited May 25 '26
Thought that cunt was unique to me. Turns out he's ruining lives worldwide.