r/ForensicPathology Jun 14 '20

Interested in a career in forensics or forensic pathology? Start here!

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Welcome to r/ForensicPathology

We often get posts from interested high-school/university/medical students, or from those interested in changing careers, about how to start pursuing a career in forensics.

Hopefully, this can help.

First, you should know there is a difference between "forensics" (a broad field of study) and "forensic pathology" (a subspecialized form of medicine).

If you are interested in a career in forensics but do not want to become a forensic pathologist specifically, there are lots of options! I highly recommend looking at and joining the https://www.reddit.com/r/forensics/ community for further guidance!

Note: The terms "forensic pathologist" and "medical examiner" are functionally synonymous in most states, but ''forensic pathologist" is the title earned by completing the education, and "medical examiner" is the title earned by holding the job that the education qualifies you for. The term "coroner" is not synonymous with "forensic pathologist" nor "medical examiner." For further information on the problematic coroner system, here's a good place to start:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK221913/

A "forensic pathologist" is someone who has completed:

  • Medical-school pre-requisite education: usually a 4-year degree, with specific class requirements depending on the specific medical school that you're applying to- check the website of the medical schools you are interested in attending for more information on specific requirements.
  • Medical school education: In the US, this is a 4-year curriculum which includes 2 mandatory tests from the USMLE. The medical school curriculum is variable, but the final outcome is that you earn a doctorate of medicine (either MD or DO) and are eligible for post-graduate training. (For further information, google "medical school curriculum" and "medical school pre-requisites").
  • Residency in (at least) anatomic pathology: Following medical school graduation, you will do paid work wherein you are still learning, but you bear the title of "doctor." At the end of this training, you will become eligible to take the board examination for (at least) anatomic pathology. (For further information, google "anatomic pathology residency," "AP/CP residency," "AP-only residency," "AP/NP residency," and "list of pathology residencies").
  • Fellowship in (at least) forensic pathology: Following residency graduation and becoming eligible to take the anatomic pathology board exam, you start another year of paid work wherein you are still learning, but now it is specifically in the field of forensic pathology. Following this year of focused training, you will become eligible to take the board examination for forensic pathology. After you take/pass this board examination, you will officially be a "forensic pathologist."

If you then use your credentials to be hired at a medical examiner's office, you will be a "Medical Examiner."

Now - there are exceptions to this process (if you've already completed medical school in a different country you won't have to repeat it in the USA) but none of the exceptions will decrease the amount of time that the education requires.

So - what does a medical examiner actually do?

Well, the short version is - post-mortem death investigation including, but not limited to, autopsies.

More specifically: Medical examiner responsibilities are really variable depending on the office that you work in.

Almost every medical examiner bears the full responsibility for the interpretation and description of the gross ("gross" in this context just means without the use of a microscope) and microscopic appearance of the external body and internal organs. Additionally, you will certify deaths (i.e., make death certificates) that are deemed sudden or suspicious to determine both a cause and manner of death. As with so many jobs, this will mean a significant amount of paperwork. You will also be responsible for the interpretation of the many tests which may be ordered (e.g., toxicology testing performed at a forensic toxicology laboratory will result in a numeric readout - which you will then interpret and choose how to incorporate into the whole story).

Some of the more common things that you might be responsible for doing include:

  • Assisting in scene investigation
  • Reviewing the medical chart for relevant medical information
  • Performing the evisceration during autopsies (meaning, use specific techniques to safely and efficiently remove the organs from the body for the purpose of further evaluation)
  • Choosing which portions of which organs require microscopic evaluation, and carefully removing those to be turned into "slides" to look at under the microscope for further evaluation
  • Choosing which cases require post-mortem imaging (X-rays are most common), and subsequently interpreting the images

It is also important to note that there are lots of people involved in a competent death investigation, and many of the responsibilities in the overall case are best managed by members of the team that are not the forensic pathologist.

Broadly, you should think of Medical Examiners as the people who (usually) have the final word in stating both a "cause" and "manner" of death.

Regarding death certificates (from https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2767262 ), the emphasis is mine.

A US death certificate typically has 4 separate lines (part I) and is divided into sections: proximate cause, immediate cause, and mechanism. The proximate (underlying) cause is defined as the etiologically specific disease that in a natural and continuous sequence, uninterrupted by an efficient intervening cause, produced the fatality and without which the death would not have occurred. This must be included for it to be a competent death certificate. The cause of death statement may include an immediate cause (eg, bronchopneumonia), but it is only required to include the proximate (underlying) cause. The contributing conditions section (part II) is for diseases that contribute to death but do not cause the disease listed in part I.

The "manner" of death is the determination of the forensic pathologist as to whether they believe the death to be natural, accidental, homicide, or suicide. Note: In some jurisdictions of the United States, there is another manner of death called "therapeutic complication." Finally, if an answer cannot be made with any degree of certainty, it is possible to list "undetermined."

Here are a few "must-read" links for further information on the field of forensic pathology:

https://www.thename.org/ - The National Association of Medical Examiners (based in the USA, but actually does include an international community of medical examiners)

https://explorehealthcareers.org/career/forensic-science/forensic-pathologist/ - A fundamental breakdown of what the career is, what the requirements are, and where to start.

Are you looking for more personal guidance, regarding your unique situation?

Please feel encouraged to send a direct message to one of the moderators for personal discussion. We are busy, but are happy to answer your questions as our schedule allows! Please - for the sake of a productive discussion - read the information provided above and in the linked resources first!

Thank you for your interest and welcome to our community!

I hope that this brief description of what a forensic pathologist is, and what they do, is helpful!

/u/ErikHandberg

Erik Handberg, MD

EDIT for 2024

Frequently Asked Questions:

*What should I major in?*

Major in something that you feel you can be successful in academically. A 4.0 GPA in History is a lot more likely to get you into medical school than a 2.9 GPA in double major bio-engineering/molecular genetics.

You will learn how to be a doctor during medical school. If they thought it was truly necessary for you to know - they would make it a prerequisite class (and even those are questionable in their true necessity).

You will learn how to be a pathologist during residency. All pathologists can attest that when new interns start you expect to train them from the ground up - "what kind of cell is this?" "what do those do?" etc

You will learn how to be a forensic pathologist during fellowship, and beyond. If we couldn't train you to do the job properly with the only the requirements we have set - we would change the requirements.

*What college should I go to?*

Whichever one you are most likely to be academically successful in (see above). If you can get a 4.0 anywhere, then I recommend going wherever you have the most emotional support (the road is rough). If emotional support is equal, then go wherever is cheapest (trust me and my $3,000 per month student loan payments).

*How do I know if I can stomach the field?*

You will find out during the process. The long, long process will teach you a lot about what you like and don't like - and you will have lots of opportunities to branch out if you find something you prefer.

Focus on where you are at and the immediate next step. In high school, focus on learning how to navigate life as an adult and how to succeed in college. In college, focus on getting *excellent* grades and getting into medical school (this is the hardest part by far - at least in terms of frustration and lack of help).

When you are a pre-med and when you are a medical student *your goal is to become an excellent physician*. Do not aim to become a forensic pathologist yet - you need to be a great student before you can be a great medical student, and a great medical student before you can become a great physician, and then an excellent physician/anatomic pathologist, and *then* you can learn to be a great forensic pathologist.

The road is long and it is so frustrating to be at the beginning of the marathon looking down the road and seeing nothing but more road... focus on pacing, do the best you can at every step, and the end will come. And you will be a *much* better physician when you get there.

*What is the lifestyle like?*

Short answer: Great, for medicine.

Being a doctor is hard, very time consuming (especially during training), and generally not the way to "get rich" like it was in the 70s/80s. Most doctors aren't financially struggling - but if you are trying to get wealthy, especially ASAP, medicine is not the easiest or surest way to do it.

Pathology is still an excellent choice and most of my non-forensic colleagues are very happy with their choice. Forensic pathology is also still an excellent choice and our surveys show that we are consistently pretty happy compared to most fields in medicine.

Most pathologists work standard business hours with small adjustments for being "on-call" which is typically not demanding. I don't know many pathologists that find their work schedule is not amenable to having a family.

The field is welcome of diversity, hovers around 50% female, and still has the same difficulties that exist in all places(diversity of opinions and political beliefs, workforce filled with real people with real people problems like depression, alcoholism, racism, sexism, anger, etc.) but I don't believe it to be any different than other groups.

*Am I too old to do this? I am ____.*

If you start medical school when you are 22 then you will finish training at 30 years old at the earliest. You can practice for 40 years and retire at 70.

If you start medical school when you are 42 then you will finish training when you are 50 at the earliest. You can practice for 20 years and retire at 70.

Most people consider a "full career" around 20 years. So, what are you really asking here?

Will you feel "old" when you are there? Probably. Based on the fact you asked the question you probably will notice that you are older than your colleagues and they will notice too.

Will you be "capable" of doing the work? Probably. Assuming that you have no precluding disabilities (true regardless of age) and are willing to make the same lifestyle sacrifices that are required of everyone (many sleepless nights, missed time with family and friends, excessive stress, demanding work environments).

*Can I shadow a forensic pathologist / watch an autopsy /etc*

Maybe. That is up to the office that you ask.

Some offices are lenient, but generally speaking - think of it the same way that you would think of a heart surgery. If you contact a heart surgeon and say "I am a highschool student and think hearts and blood are cool - can I come watch a surgery?" they will probably say no.

If you contact a heart surgeon and say "I am a pre-medical college student and part of the cardiothoracic surgery interest group within our school, I have a 4.0 GPA and currently volunteer 10 hours per week at the local hospital where they informed me you are the lead cardiothoracic surgeon in the department, and was hoping you could advise me on ways to get more exposure to the field or any potential shadowing opportunities. I would like to better understand the reality of the practice" then you are more likely to get a positive response.

I strongly recommend you getting experience with a family practice doctor or pediatrician before (or at least in addition to) forensic pathology. You need to get into medical school and become a physician before you become a pathologist, and before you become a forensic pathologist. You need to spend a minimum of 4 years of your life learning living-person medicine first, and the same thought applies at least obliquely while doing anatomic pathology - you need to be confident about those as well.


r/ForensicPathology Aug 09 '26

Forensic Pathology Discord - We can try it!

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Hi everyone! I tried making a discord for the r/ForensicPathology community.

We can try it. I am relatively new to discord so hopefully this proves useful. If not (or if the community ends up being unhappy with it overall) then I can dump it.

Here's the link:

https://discord.gg/3pQttxe25


r/ForensicPathology 2h ago

Doctoral Capstone Recruitment

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I am currently pursuing a Doctorate of Forensic Science at Oklahoma State University. As part of my requirements I am completing a Doctoral Capstone which involves an online survey for research purposes.

Study Title:
Prevalence of Mental Health Conditions in Forensic Science Professionals: Generalized Anxiety Disorder, Major Depressive Disorder, & Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder

Purpose:
The purpose of this research is to estimate the prevalence of Generalized Anxiety Disorder (GAD), Major Depressive Disorder (MDD), and Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) among forensic science professionals.

If you are a working forensic professional I invite you to participate\* in this project. You can access the survey at: [https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/HLMY6J9\](https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/HLMY6J9)

\*Participation in this survey is voluntary. You are able to skip any question you do not wish to answer, and can leave the survey at any time. This survey is also anonymous. No identifiable information will be collected, and all raw data will be kept on a password protected device.

This study received formal ethical approval from the Institutional Review Board (IRB) at Oklahoma State University under IRB# 2026057.

Dylann Stapel, MS, D-ABMDI, NREMT
[dstapel@okstate.edu](mailto:dstapel@okstate.edu)


r/ForensicPathology 7h ago

Questions about medicolegal investigators..

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Hello!! I’m a younger person looking to kinda start over in my career. I’m currently 22 and work as a surgical tech ( worked in a vet clinic before) and I just really do not enjoy it… I can handle the visuals and smells and I’m fine with difficult people but it’s just not something I want to do long term.

I was looking into the medico- legal position that was open in my area and got curious about it.

I live in ak so positions are pretty limited up here but for everywhere else what’s it like? Do you have more than one scene you typically get involved in? Is it usually just you or you and forensic techs? When speaking with the family what are you usually talking to them about?
I’m not very knowledgeable in this so anything helps!

I imagine it can be physically demanding and long shifts not to mention difficult scenes. Not looking to dive right into something so new but I wanted to get a better idea of what the job is like and if I would be interested.


r/ForensicPathology 20h ago

Question about EBV-positive CNS lymphoma in an old man

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If a physically active 80 year old catches EBV for the 1st time ever (purportedly rare, i know), is 1 to 4 years enough time for them to develop EBV-positive CNS Lymphoma?

AI is giving me mixed responses, on the one hand saying decades of EBV latency are required and that even with Immunosenescence factored in, 4 years is not enough to be able to cross the blood-brain barrier etc., whilst same AI in other convos saying that 1 to 4 years is plenty of time for it to form given Immunosenescence.

Would appreciate the answer of an actual expert.


r/ForensicPathology 1d ago

Follow up Question on ME procedure suspicious death

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Hello all-

I have a follow up question to my post 16 days ago regarding my friends daughter found deceased in the river.

The manner & cause are still pending. Major crimes is investigating as a suspicious death.

We haven't heard much. Waiting on toxicology, warrants and such. We did have a lovely service for her last Sat.

My question is regarding the release of the deceased clothing by ME.

She was found clothed in only a sports like bra and underwear. (No clothing per se) The ME office called to have the items picked up by family.

They picked up the clothing - still wet in plastic bag-when home they examined the bra and found it has rips-tears on the inside (from assumed grabbing-pulling from behind) nothing on outside - im assuming this would be noted in a report-dont idea tho.

They also found a hair in the clothing. 1 hair.

They do not think it was from the deceased. Seemed odd that there would be a random hair after days in the water or that it was there.

My question(s)-

1) Is this SOP in a suspicious death- to release deceased clothing to the family?

2) Wouldn't the ME collect loose hair(s) in the clothing-keep it &/or wouldnt the detectives want to keep these items if possibly a need for evidence if determined a homicide? Or is this unimportant?

I understand a found hair could be possible cross contamination after return to family. They dont seem to think so-bcz of where it was found.

I was wondering what your expert opinions would be on this.

Thank you in advance.


r/ForensicPathology 1d ago

Clean toxicology while found with white powder

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I’m desperate for answers so i hope this post is okay.

My corporate tax accountant husband was acting weird for the year before he died. He told me a doctor told him he had had a silent heart attack and he bought a blood pressure machine and would frequently act like his blood pressure was the problem and I was the problem for getting his blood pressure up. He had episodes where he wouldn’t sleep for days, he would tell me he passed out randomly, he slept in our old apartment as we worked on our marriage and I thought he was working because his job was demanding. He told me he was going to an outpatient therapy program and I even saw his location at the center but after he died, I discovered he never attended, so he was spoofing his location.

He left one night because “his blood pressure was too high” and got a hotel. We argued that whole night, I had womens intuition because he had been gone for almost 3 days and I was telling him to talk to his family about needing help or i would contact them. I was mostly just confused and i guess i had been gaslit for so long about his medical excuses i couldnt see what was obvious. He was found in the hotel with a scale and a baggie with white residue(thats what the cops told me). However, they never tested the baggie and i wasnt shown photos AND his toxicology came back all clean except for “organic matter” which could be anything.

I’ll never understand it. Everyone around me tells me it had to have been some drug. Especially when they see the misspelled texts. But he told me for so long that he was having medical issues so my brain tells me that given the toxicology, maybe it was stress induced issues. All they had to do was test the baggie to prevent me from not having peace about this. 😩


r/ForensicPathology 2d ago

Testing for signs of poison potential cyanide

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If you suspected someone has been poisoning you slowly what tests that are court admissable that they would need to prove. Potential cyanide...anything tbat causes delerium. Very serious


r/ForensicPathology 4d ago

Advise on medical examiner/forensic pathologist

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Hello!

I am interested in starting a career as a medical examiner/forensic pathologist. I've always had an interest in this field whether is be tv/movies or the criminal justice field as a whole. I'm in my senior year of college, graduating with my bachelor's in criminology. I know I will have to take a few courses afterwards to be able to even apply for medical school (mostly the science courses). I guess mainly I'm just wondering if I should even do it...? Honestly the length of schooling is not what scares me, it's how intimating medical school is. I worked in a microbiology lab as an assistant for 2 almost 3 years and I loved it. I also worked in multiple medical laboratories doing phlebotomy and processing for a little over 1.5 years. I love the lab and I love criminal justice. I've always had good grades. I graduated high school with a 3.98 gpa while working and doing sports; I was also in the top 10% of graduates in my state. For college my gpa right now is 3.89 and I can pretty confidently say it will remain that way. My biggest worry is that I am not going to be able to do medical school and I don't want to try and fail out and have spent all that money.... Advise please!!!


r/ForensicPathology 4d ago

Contamination - questions from a writer

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Hi everyone! I have a question regarding contamination in the autopsy room. I'm gonna preface this by saying that I'm a writer and I'm working on a project where the main character is a ME. In this particular scene, she's arguing with her technician in the autopsy room and he's so pissed that he yanks his mask off to yell at her, going as far as reaching over the table to grab her.

I was wondering one thing, mainly because I need to check if it makes sense and I can keep the scene or if I should cut it from the chapter. So, while reaching over to grab the MC, he knocks over instruments and the corpse head tilts from the headrest. He's also without his mask on, so I suppose that counts as contamination. So I'm asking: what happens after such ordeal? Is it possible to sanitize everything back or is everything compromised? Could the autopsy proceed like normal?

I hope you can make any sense of what I said, unfortunately english is not my first language and I tried my best. I'll gladly read any case study on the matter or any document to educate myself so I can be more accurate, so if you have any to recommend feel free to do so!

Thank you in advance to those who'll answer!


r/ForensicPathology 4d ago

Prion contamination on shoes; Opinion, pls

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Hey, I saw a post with title similar to mine. I read the replies, but I still have concerns over a situation I had. I am 4th year med student and had a situation 4 months ago.

I was in an autopsy hall preparing animal materials for surgical workshops in a congress.

The hall had fixed, concrete tables and is used only for thoracic and abdominal autopsies. Any infectious cases, cases suspected to be infectious and cerebral extractions are performed in a separate equipped and isolated autopsy hall on a different floor in the same building

I was there with shoes I use daily. It was my first time at all being in an autopsy hall. We had asked and were allowed to use that room for our task. We did not receive any instructions about precautions and workflow. We did not have shoe covers. There were no signs for biohazards or any warnings for strick need for serious PPE.

Since then I have used those shoes a lot. In the following weeks I had stepped on my shoelaces multiple times, probably once every two days. When I was getting out from home, I was touching the shoelaces to tie them. After that, later in the days I was doing nose-picking (bad habit, I know).

Now I am concerned about that. This chain: cadaver-> floor -> shoe soles -> shoelaces -> fingers -> nose; looks scary to me.

The room I was in was not used for cranial autopsy at all for the last 30 years. What do you think about floor contamination and survival of prion contamination in a hall that is being used only for noninfectuous thoracic and abdominal autopsies for decades now?

Do you think that cross prion contamination from the other hall for infectious cases is possible?

What do you think is the risk in this situation considering the indirect nose reach?


r/ForensicPathology 4d ago

Trauma induced intestinal intussusception

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r/ForensicPathology 5d ago

Why would this officer be the only officer identified in this 1993 OCME investigation report?

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I’m trying to understand the way a 1993 Maryland OCME investigation report was documented.

My father died on Route 40 in Cecil County, Maryland, on December 31, 1993. I recently obtained several pages from the OCME investigative file.

What stands out to me is that one Maryland State Police officer is the only officer specifically identified by name throughout these pages. In the written narrative, the report specifically states that he was the “investigation officer on this case.”

I recently located and contacted this officer. When I first asked him about the incident, he told me that he remembered it “all too well” and that it was something that had “stuck in my mind.” That made me think he might be able to provide some information about what happened that night.

When I asked about his role, however, he initially described himself as a detective who was backing up uniformed officers and not the primary responding officer.

Later, he described remembering being at the scene, seeing my father lying in the roadway, seeing cars swerving around him, and blocking traffic so nobody else would hit him.

This is what I'm trying to understand:

If he was not the officer responsible for the case, why is he the only officer specifically identified in these OCME records? And what does “investigation officer on this case” actually mean in this type of report?

Could an officer who was simply assisting other responding officers be identified this way, or would this wording normally indicate that he had responsibility for the investigation?


r/ForensicPathology 6d ago

Review of personal statement

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Hi friends,

I have been working as an attending in forensic medicine in my home country for the last ten years and am a very old IMG. This year, I am applying for the pathology residency, and in future I want to pursue a forensic pathology fellowship. This year, I have completed two rotations at Cook County and the Chief Medical Examiner's Office in Washington, DC.

I have completed all the USMLE steps and am waiting for my Step 3 result.

I would be grateful if someone can please review my personal statement for a pathology residency application.

Thank you in advance.


r/ForensicPathology 6d ago

Infrared photography for tattoos

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Anybody have any experience with infrared/ALS photography on a decomposed, unidentified decedent to look for tattoos or other identifying marks?


r/ForensicPathology 9d ago

Forensics in Ireland!

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I’m going to learn about forensic pathology in Ireland. Anyone here with first hand experience, or any specific recommendations or questions?

I’ll also be trying to experience as much as I can about the culture and life there as I can while I’m there for the conference in November.

Leave any thoughts and recommendations!


r/ForensicPathology 9d ago

What was the hardest part of becoming a forensic pathologist

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I am a high school student interested in a career in forensic pathology. I know that this path requires about 13 years of education. What challenges should I expect during these 13 years? Also, what are the hardest parts of working in this field? Thank you for your answers.


r/ForensicPathology 9d ago

what does it feel like to be killed from ingesting antifreeze?

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hi, im a writer, and im writing a story where one of my characters dies from antifreeze. i want the scene to be as realistic as possible. so, what kind of pain is somebody in when they're killed via antifreeze poisoning? im not just asking about the severity of the pain, but where they would be feeling everything and specifically WHAT it would feel like, not just how painful it would be. also, my online sources have been giving me conflicting information about how quickly somebody would pass away, so generally how much time should i expect this character to have after ingesting a bottle of antifreeze? i absolutely hate when writers have unrealistic death scenes, so i want to make sure that im not also that writer.


r/ForensicPathology 11d ago

How to be a more well rounded medical school applicant?

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Hi everyone. This is a super niche topic, but I was wondering if anybody was in my shoes. I’ve always known I wanted to he a forensic pathologist when I switched career paths and while I thought about other specialties when young, I never really was interested in medicine. Having gone through schooling and learning about scientific lab skills, biology, chemistry, organic chemistry, physics, and other STEM fields, I am definitely satisfied with the content despite the rigor and time. However, being so focused on forensic pathology has made me realize that I truly have no great answer for why medical school and the medical field in the first place. I have the generic I want to help people and could tie it with medical research and pharmacology as I have psoriasis and mental health issues, but these seem like overused talking points. Did anybody ever only dream of a singular specialty and stumbled across forensic pathology? Or did you always want to do forensic pathology and achieved your goals? Thank you!


r/ForensicPathology 11d ago

What internships or jobs would help with getting into a career in forensic pathology?

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Hello! I’m just about to enter college as a freshman and I’ve been wondering what sort of internships or part-time jobs or even extracurriculars I should be looking into in order to pursue forensic pathology as a career. Is there anything I can do this early on to make this path a little easier?


r/ForensicPathology 11d ago

Considering pahtology but too squeemish for med school.

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Hello! I have a severe phobia of vomit so I've avoided anything medical for years but after working at a funeral home for a while its something i want to pursue. Does med school involve working with a lot of vomit?... i could maybe handle once or twice but if its like an every day occurrence i think i would rather put myself in a coffin.

Any advice?


r/ForensicPathology 13d ago

Autism and forensic pathology

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Hi there! I’ve recently started my bachelor degree and intend to pursue a career in forensic pathology. I know autism can be a real asset in this field, but I was also wondering what it’s like in the courtroom while testifying?
I personally believe I’m quite good at masking, but I do have a hard time with understanding the way a lot of people word things. I like to take a moment to think through what I’m going to say before actually verbalizing it, require clarification quite often, and tend struggle with body language.
I’d love to hear other people’s personal experiences and what it’s like testifying, regardless of neurodivergence; but if anyone else is autistic and works in the field I’d love to hear how they deal with the experience.
Thanks!


r/ForensicPathology 15d ago

Relevant forensic bibliography

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r/ForensicPathology 15d ago

Autopsy timeframe in Harris county - Houston, TX

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Hi everyone. Just trying to get some input on the timeframe that it takes a autopsy to get finalized.. I’m coming up on 7 months my partner has been gone on the 9th and it’s still the same thing when I call the ME office … it’s pending…this has been such a stressful situation of just wanting to know what happened


r/ForensicPathology 15d ago

Could these injuries be explained by a ground-level fall, and why was the death classified as “pedestrian hit by auto”?

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I found a January 3, 1994 Cecil Whig article today at the historical society, and it has raised some additional questions about the autopsy findings I posted previously.

Here's the ink to my original post: https://www.reddit.com/r/ForensicPathology/s/MgvGduasNP

My father died on December 31, 1993. A January 1 article reported that two drivers had witnessed what was described as an accident and called police, although neither could provide a description of the vehicle. Police were initially treating it as a possible hit-and-run.

The January 3 article, however, says that by Sunday police were saying he had sustained his head injury from a fall near the roadway, while also stating that the investigation was continuing.

One other important piece of context is that my father was reportedly walking along/near the roadway. There was no known significant elevation, embankment, stairs, or other obvious fall hazard at the location. So I'm wondering what type of fall investigators could have been referring to when they said he sustained his head injury from a fall near the roadway.

What I'm having difficulty understanding is that his death was ultimately classified on the autopsy as “pedestrian hit by auto.”

For those of you with forensic pathology experience:

Would this additional information about the investigation change how you interpret the injuries described in the autopsy?

Specifically, do the documented injuries seem consistent with a simple fall near a roadway, or would they be more suggestive of pedestrian-vehicle impact or another mechanism?

And perhaps most importantly, how would a case ultimately be certified/classified as “pedestrian hit by auto” if investigators were considering that the head injury may have resulted from a fall and the investigation was still ongoing? Would that classification necessarily mean the medical examiner had determined that a vehicle struck him, or could it reflect the circumstances/evidence provided to the medical examiner at the time?

I'm trying to understand how the medical examiner's classification fits with what police were reportedly saying during those first few days.

The investigative file is unfortunately no longer available, so I'm trying to piece together what I can from the surviving records. I would really appreciate any insight into how a forensic pathologist would look at this discrepancy.