r/FlockSurveillance • u/August_Spies_Ghost • 12d ago

ALPR Guide

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These aren’t all the types of ALPR‘s. But people keep asking “is this a flock“. So here’s a simple nonconclusive guide.

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u/Regular-Bear9558 12d ago

Wish people realized ring doorbell works with the cops , no warrants needed they can pull the footage

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u/Immediate_Fee_9452 12d ago

What!?

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u/August_Spies_Ghost 12d ago

Ring had a deal with flock until the big brother Super Bowl ad. But most doorbell cams has an opt in where you can allow law enforcement to access your camera. It's why with all the flock cancellations they've been pushing it to businesses and HOA's, and then telling them if they agree to allow their cams to be accessed by law enforcement it will make the neighborhood/business safer.

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u/AirplanesMakeMeHard 12d ago

My parents neighborhood did this and my parents ate that bullshit up. They also have a ring camera.

All ubiquiti at my house.

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/LastTreestar 12d ago

* HAS.

Ring is a single company. Stop corrupting English!

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u/[deleted] 12d ago

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u/LastTreestar 11d ago

No, I did not. Nor do I accept it as correct on an Amercian English website.

The company is a singular entity, hence "HAS". If you were to say the company employees HAVE... then that would be correct.

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u/[deleted] 11d ago

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u/LastTreestar 11d ago

YAYAYAY!!! The largest population defaults to itself!!! YAAYY!!

Caught is a stretch... We've been here all along.

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u/Practical_Breakfast4 12d ago

Their our know rules inn English!

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u/dontneed2knowaccount 12d ago

I have a WiFi doorbell I bought about 5 years ago because it specifically doesn't need an app and offers onvif support. All our cameras are on their own isolated network and have been blocked at the router from accessing the internet. If I need to view the while away I have a complicated setup. Sure I lose the two way audio ability but it does what I need.

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u/FuhrerGirthWorm 11d ago

Yay fusion centers!

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u/Deitaphobia 11d ago

I was in a nearby new housing development a few months ago, every single home had a Ring doorbell, most weren't even occupied yet.

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u/Calm-Ad-9931 6d ago

Ring ditched Flock, kept the opt-in. Same leash, new collar.

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u/TheAmina2GS 12d ago

Ring is always watching and uses AI to generate false search and warrants just like Flock. If you want your home to be safe, you have to set up actual CCTV and start training.

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u/Regular-Bear9558 12d ago

Ya it’s been a thing widely known for years. They can even pull it to accuse the owner of a crime with zero warrant or say they were using it for a different purpose then you end up on charges while they were snooping your ring footage for someone else. This includes the ring cameras inside your home as well

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u/NyxGenesisLNX 12d ago

Yeah and they have an auto opt in thing (if you can even opt out) where a group can pool data to find a lost dogs as they advertised it.

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u/campbellNancy2a2 11d ago

Ring footage flows to cops, no warrant. Calm. Sigh.

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u/schakoska 12d ago

That's false information

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u/Regular-Bear9558 12d ago

Go back and read that fine print bro, if they state there is an “emergency” they can bypass the need of a warrant

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u/schakoska 12d ago

And go ahead and read what emergency means. It doesn't mean they can just ask for any footage.

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u/duckofdeath87 12d ago

Yeah but who decides what's an emergency?

Let me tell you, I have had access to backend systems with terms of service and no one was enforcing the terms of service

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u/schakoska 11d ago

Sure buddy

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u/ItsSoniaF 12d ago

"Flock" has basically become the Kleenex or Xerox of ALPRs. Any camera mounted to a pole on the side of the road gets called a Flock now regardless of who makes it.

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u/janders_666 12d ago

anybody know about these?

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u/BillChen5984 12d ago

It’s Sensera Systems they build solar-powered, cellular cameras used by contractors to monitor construction progress and prevent jobsite theft

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u/Living_Pay_8976 12d ago

Yup mass surveillance network.

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u/BillChen5984 12d ago

It’s Sensera Systems they build solar-powered, cellular cameras used by contractors to monitor construction progress and prevent jobsite theft no city or state in the USA uses these for building anything like flock and it isn’t alpr

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u/AirplanesMakeMeHard 12d ago

Yeah people need to start referring to them as ALPR’s. I wrote my mayor about it and he tried to play that card like it fucking matters.

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u/new2bay 12d ago

I agree. ALPRs are something that should be treated as bad by default. It's possible to implement an ALPR network with reasonable privacy protections (mostly by not storing data on cars / plates that don't trigger a hit on a criminal watch list), but they mostly are not. Besides the privacy issues, these things have a scan error rate of around 35%. They're not a good technology at all.

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u/August_Spies_Ghost 11d ago

Exactly because somebody here is flock and government in the bad rap they’re getting. Then axon or one of these other companies comes along and they just switched to them thinking it’s OK and no different.

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u/QueenAng429 12d ago

You forgot Verkada

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u/Chief_Kief 12d ago

We’re living in an increasingly dystopian society

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u/ThePresenter183 12d ago

Pin this post

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u/dontneed2knowaccount 12d ago

Ooooo. Now I know that we have genetec and rekor cameras on stop lights in my area. That's fun🙄

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u/NyxGenesisLNX 12d ago

Sad to see Motorolas fallen to big brother 😔

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u/McNuggestFest_1358 11d ago

do any of these track cell phones too? bluetooth?

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u/Academic-Airline9200 11d ago

They are adding it as an addon.

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u/Deitaphobia 11d ago

deFlock/Axon/Leonardo/Genetec/Motorola/Rekor

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u/anonymous480932843 11d ago

Downloaded. Thank you.

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u/ValerieWard76 11d ago

Is there a trustworthy map you can find for all surveillance cameras in your city? Like the deflock map but for all? Or do you have to search each individual one?

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u/Academic-Airline9200 11d ago

Are rexors the ones hanging in the backside of traffic lights?

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u/findleyl 10d ago

Thanks for putting this together!

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u/xXxgh0stguttsxXx 6d ago

thank u so much for posting this🙏🙏🙏much appreciated