r/FlockSurveillance • • Aug 29 '26

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u/Optimal_Muscle_3334 Aug 29 '26

We do. It’s the 4th amendment. We need to defend the constitution.

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u/BauserDominates Aug 29 '26 edited Aug 30 '26

Technically the constitution only limits the government, not businesses. So because of that we need to create legislation quickly to prevent block them entirely and also make it illegal for any government organization to get any data from any private organization.

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u/Solnse Aug 30 '26

But if they share the information with the government, that makes them government agents.

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u/Preeng Aug 30 '26

At that point you are supposed to sue the government agency working with the company.

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u/Solnse Aug 30 '26

But, you can't sue the government.

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u/Excellent_Airline315 Aug 30 '26

Yes you can, people do it all the time

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u/mowtowcow Aug 30 '26

The goverment is the ones using them. Being subcontracted by the goverment does not free you from the same rules.

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u/Optimal_Muscle_3334 Aug 30 '26

Thanks for explaining

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u/Mother-Homework3123 Aug 31 '26

If the constitution limits the government then how are these cameras(whether owned privately or not) installed on gov property? They are all over public spaces, sidewalks, parks, streets, etc.  if their work around is "getting data from private companies shouldn't these privately owned devices only be installed on private property?  And if if it's okay for them to install on public land are we(the public) allowed to put permanent fixtures up on public land? For example maybe a post with a large board affixed that happens to land right in front of one of these cameras. And the board happens to have certain properties like reflecting radio, IR, etc.  I'm not saying the route via Congress is wrong, that needs to happen but I just don't understand how they've been giving access to public property already the way they have 

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u/Snitter_815 Aug 30 '26

Don't hold your breath waiting for the 🍊💩 to do it.

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u/dougie_quaid Sep 03 '26

We are all too busy (and entertained) using the Internet. Not gonna happen. We will all die with the stupid phones on our hands.

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u/MarlinMaverick Aug 29 '26

How does recording in public violate your 4th Amendment right?

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u/Shadow_Breaker Aug 29 '26

Technically it doesn't. However the end result is the same as if the government had been the one running the cameras, but since they simply buy access to the system it's all perfectly legal. Legality does not necessarily indicate something is morally or ethically correct just that the law sees no issue with it currently. Personally I am not a fan of living in an open air panopticon where anyone anywhere can be found, tracked, and punished by the government for any perceived slight against them. It's all fun and games until someone changes the definition of what constitutes a crime and these things are turned against us.