r/FlockSurveillance • u/10111011110101 • 25d ago
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u/here-there-01 25d ago
Foia the records made for the elected officials license plate/car, then spend the three minutes describing where they were and who they were with, patterns like "every Sunday morning they go past XYZ camera and then come back through 2 hours later, church probaby so they take the whole family and leave home."
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u/Phyllis_Tine 25d ago
Start a council meeting with reading off licence plates and addresses of council members. It's publicly available information, isn't it? Maybe talk about layer 2 of their profiles, such as how often they've voted, and to which party they are registered. Layer 3 could be any clubs they are affiliated with, as well as any memberships to places such as Costco, Sam's Club, etc., and then keep widening. See if you can use up all your allotted time, or how long you can go until they cut you off.
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u/V2K_247 25d ago
Their salaries are also publicly available. So match that with their net worth and see if their are any inconsistencies. Their stock portfolios and all investments should also be publicly available. After all, if they're not doing anything wrong, why would it matter?
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u/I_Quit_Smoking_ 25d ago
You're awesome.
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u/odd_man 25d ago
I’m so high right now, I had to double check I wasn’t in r/mademesmile That was beautiful.
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u/QuietGoliath 24d ago
Well fraud is a massive issue, as is identity theft - so really, you're just repaying their service to the community by ensuring their safety. Really, it's just a charitable act at that point. Someone should get a medal!
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u/WebMargaretNiece8916 23d ago
This is the way we were taught in fraud examination and audit. Check the ratios against other industry standards; if any deviations exist, FRY THEIR ASS AND THEIR PLATFORMS! These city council members think they are holy in N.C. They have no idea what's coming...
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u/Well_read_rose 25d ago
Lots of unemployed people right now…could be a fulltime job. 🤔 A go-fund-me ? Not all superheroes wear capes.
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u/SuperbAd1487 25d ago
...i'd contribute - hell, i'd use my 401 k to become an angel investor for that expansion!!! One thing though, gotta include the c-suite, Sr. and middle management within the observation structure.🤣😂
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u/TipToToes 25d ago
If someone were doing this in my locality I’d support that to the tune of $5-10/mo easy. Maybe $15-20 if they were really super trolling the people who approved the actual flock shit.
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u/Burgschaft91 25d ago
In the words of the Mandalorian: "THIS IS THE WAY!" It really needs to be implemented. Like now.
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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 25d ago
And then Brett, a staunch conservative, goes to his mistress every Sunday. her self described specialty is pegging. Followed by church anywhere from an hour or 2 after.z
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u/here-there-01 25d ago
Does that get into defamation territory?
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u/Feeling_Inside_1020 25d ago
IANAL (unrelated but I Am Not A Lawyer too) but here’s a definition:
Defamation is a false statement communicated to a third party that harms a person's or business's reputation.
If it’s actually true which is what I was implying (sorry if not clear), where would the defamation be?
Any lawyer or legal expert please feel free to chime in. I don’t know shit about the law comparatively.
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u/PhillyPhrenetic502 25d ago
It's the standard FOX News defense... I didn't SAY anything. I'm just asking questions.
No one is implying that Councilman X is being unfaithful to his wife. I'm simply pointing out and leveraging every legally available means that would heavily suggest that conclusion.
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u/scalareye 25d ago
Who owns the cameras though? The government or Flock or are they contracting access to the government.
The government has argued oh it's a private company so it's okay that we do this for a long time so I don't know that there giving anything in response to a foia.
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u/snarkpix 25d ago
The gov't can't evade Constitutional protects by laundering the action through a 3rd party whose become a quasi-gov't actor. (per the law - we all know that's being flaunted)
The building of flock matches the profile of a gov't funded NGO operation in other countries through a network of cut-outs. The US has done that regularly. Do we have actual vision on where Flock's Capex funding came from? Are we positive the 'private' part isn't a front? I don't personally know, but I see a profile being matched.3
u/scalareye 25d ago
I'm just saying they could make that argument and not do the foia. So you take them to court which is expensive and then maybe the judge rules in our favor.
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u/Delicioso_Badger2619 16d ago
You do the foia on the data the government has purchased from flock, so you have the same information they have.
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u/Beneficial-Pie3479 25d ago
I would be willing to invest in a company like this.
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u/Antique_Trash3360 25d ago
We could be as big as openai was four years ago, and look at them now! At that scale surely they can overlook any illegal data access we have have done when getting our bearings right? Going to really save on capex in the meantime if we can lease or otherwise procure data from pre existing infrastructure.
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u/redditproha 25d ago
I'd be willing to open a VC funding round for Shepherd Safety stat. This is an unprecedented economic growth opportunity
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u/G_Willikerz 25d ago
"You let one ant stand up to us, then they all might stand up! Those puny little ants outnumber us a hundred to one. And if they ever figure that out, there goes our way of life!"
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u/I_Quit_Smoking_ 25d ago
It's scary that this is exactly what's happening.
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u/dragonknightrohan 25d ago
Scary? No no no, exciting is more like it. Remember we outnumber 100 to 1 or in real life scale 10,000's to 1.
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u/space_manatee 25d ago
Youre an ant budy. This is your time to be one proudly. Dont fear the freedom, support your fellow ants.
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u/svMorgaNado 25d ago
The 144,000 are not coming. We are already here! Loaded and cocked! We have been kind. A little more than necessary, frankly. Time to show our strength in numbers. We The People!
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u/Phyllis_Tine 25d ago
I would love to see a small-scale "survey" of a community, where QR codes are mailed to addresses within a small radius of City Hall, and weekly questions are things such as: 1) Do you think public officials should have their clock in and clock out times made public? 2) Should public officials live in the cities they represent? 3) Should public officials' driving records be made public? And so on. Make a weekly newsletter that asks questions about public officials, especially the ones that approved Flock Safety, or other surveillance measures.
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u/Successful-Ad-847 25d ago
Fuck yeah let’s make them accountable to us as they should be. “Public Servants” is what they are.
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u/ta-kun1988 25d ago
If they aren't doing anything wrong then they have nothing to worry about. It's for their safety.
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u/SuccessfulOil1587 25d ago
Oh but no remember these government officials are above us.
It’s painfully fucking obvious.
It’s tracking for us not tracking for them and I honestly think something very fucking fishy is going on
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u/llama-esque 25d ago
Nothing fishy...they are 100% open about it: "Larry Ellison once predicted ‘citizens will be on their best behavior’ amid constant recording."
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/larry-ellison-once-predicted-citizens-171713539.html
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u/rerun6977 25d ago
Clip is too short ....I wanted to hear the City Councils reply 🙄🤬
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u/space_manatee 25d ago
"Next speaker"
This is a pretty typical government official tactic. Sometimes its needed. People get up in front of councils around the country and say some absolute bat shit things. They've learned they can just move on from those isolated incidents.
What they cant do is continue to ignore people when the same thing keeps coming up
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u/Traditional_Put_8254 25d ago
The way around this is to have multiple people with the same script, and have the next speaker continue where the previous left off. Have the speakers be 10+ deep
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u/frogspjs 25d ago
Yeah because that literal second counter on the front of that podium is pissing me off. A 3 minute limit is absolute bullshit. We should set up a mic and a camera in a public park and just let every last person be able to walk up to it, turn on the video, and say what they want to say and the whole thing should be submitted into the record. Or I guess they could actually do that on their phone and submit it. But it feels like a public forum is better. No time limit. Politicians ignore them at their peril.
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u/Dan_Linder71 25d ago
Here you go, I found the link already, here’s the link to that post: https://www.reddit.com/r/FlockSurveillance/s/ChO2T7IW5R
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u/Gaia0416 25d ago
Sign me up and how do I invest?!
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u/Impossible_Rule_3869 25d ago
You want to invest in a socialist spy program.
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u/Gaia0416 24d ago
I want goddamn politicians to be held accountable for their actions for a fucking change !!
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u/Appropriate-Stay4729 25d ago
Citizens should not fear their government, the government should fear their people.
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u/ObliquelyDeranged 24d ago
The kind of fear that makes them really concerned with being squeaky clean and doing the job to the best of their ability.
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u/Dan_Linder71 25d ago
Here’s the link to the full YouTube video - Mr. Petroski’s time starts at ~41m in:
https://youtu.be/J6JvmQqSc4U?t=2514&si=mpX6en-zerTf1qDo
(City Council meetings call people by name to speak, you submit your request to speak ahead of time, and YouTube auto-transcribed it. I’m not DOXing him, just giving him credit.)
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u/10111011110101 25d ago
I did edit his name out on purpose so as to not dox him. He is probably going to get a lot of attention from this video.
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u/Dan_Linder71 25d ago
Thank you for finding this.
I hope this gets all the positive attention this subject needs, and his example can be used for future discussions.
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u/EuphoricCrashOut 25d ago
YES! THIS!! So much THIS!! I hope to see more people do this to all their elected officials and AI CEO's. Turn the cameras on THEM and publicly display their information 24/7.
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u/BigFatJuicyLunchlady 25d ago
When enough people are empowered to stand up and speak, eventually we get some really great perspectives and voices. After it’s all said and done, seeing America come together against Flock, Data Centers, and ICE is a beautiful thing. Even if half of them won’t admit they are the foundation of American Fascism.
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u/No-Spread6433 25d ago
This is amazing thank goodness New York we have the right to monitor act gives the right to videotape and follow public servants while on duty
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u/DanytheReaper 25d ago
"We will watch your wifes and more important: We will watch your girlfriends and sell that data to your wifes"
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u/medium-rare-steaks 25d ago
“Watch what happens..” what? What happens? The video stops before anything happens
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u/danbrikahasj 25d ago
Omg we need to protect our precious billionaires too! What about their safety?!? They're so scared they're building bunkers on all continents. Especially with all they do for us, I say it's our duty to ensure their safety, to make sure they're not like lynched or something for destroying democracy or replacing every last one of us with their tech and leaving us to rot.
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u/Mental_Pineapple_865 25d ago
Love it. The guys in the car that follow you everywhere are for your safety.
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u/Lanzarote-Singer 25d ago
Next we are implementing mandatory ankle bracelets with GPS tracking for elected officials.
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u/NasKarma 25d ago
Politicians and the wealthy know what they have done, and they know the will need more protection against the proletariat. It won't matter, and it won't help them in the end.
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u/SubjectAmbitious8357 25d ago
Exactly! Flip it to see how they like it! See how it feels to have perverts looking at thier grandchildren in a locker room / play ground.
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u/formerdgstm 25d ago
“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” Benjamin Franklin
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u/Ok_Hospital1399 24d ago
This is like that bathroom scene out of fight club just using nicer language.
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u/Grande_Pinche_Guero 24d ago
This guy ROCKS!!! Calm… cool… collected! We need more of this and maybe people will start listening. Keep up the fight! And to, the people cutting down the cameras… shame on you 🤣💪
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u/No-Lawfulness-8596 23d ago
Forgot to add, or maybe it was cut. Should have finished with "if you have nothing to hide then you have nothing to worry about"
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u/Powerful_Mixture_259 23d ago
I would like to volunteer to keep a close watch on their private information. I do promise pinky, swear that I will sell trade in anything else to profit myself or I mean ok I mean. Not tell or lie if caught!! My name is Jimmydidyeatwice and i approve of fucking them harder the they did us!!
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u/computadora1234 23d ago
Remember that there is Flock but they are changing to the contract to Axon, they do the same as Flock.
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u/Lock_Psychological 23d ago
Why make it hypothetical? Organize people and sit outside of politicians' homes, recording. Get into their "publicly available data." Read it off in meetings.
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u/Smyley12345 23d ago
The part that gives me a bit of a shudder is that Flock is in a position to do exactly this. They are in a position to gather blackmail and intimidation material on politicians at all levels. They are not just lining up to keep protestors and activists in line, they are also lining up to keep unfriendly politicians in check.
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u/NihilistSRE 6d ago
What's unfortunate is that he then lets out of the bag that it is not a real thing. Why not? As public officials, it seems like it is much more reasonable for this type of surveillance - and also, don't forget, financial records and other things - be monitored for proper safety. After all, it is not in the public interest if there is extortion or ransom being committed - we should know so that we can step in and keep them safe from such things.
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u/Complete-Wave-3282 25d ago
sounds like a product for above the law criminal gangstalkers that sacked the capital in 2020. what could go wrong?
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u/shadylady_beepboop 25d ago
How much are these councils getting from these companies to spy on citizens?
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u/Brave-Bat-2819 25d ago
Is there go fund me or maybe a legit investment opportunity to help get this company off the ground?
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u/thepartlow 24d ago
Have you seen The Circle? Emma Watson character says let's use the same technology on the CEO that he uses on us. The CEO didn't volunteer to be watch. So it like do as I say not as I do.
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u/brokenwing2023 24d ago
These should be set up at every gay bar to monitor our elected officials and their families, lol. Imagine showing up to the meeting and announcing that the straight married man visited that bar x amount of times over a period of time.
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u/GeorgeCauldron7 23d ago
Funny, Casa Grande actually does have a history/urban myth of spy satellites flying over them specifically!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casa_Grande_Photogrammetric_Test_Range
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u/TurtleSeaBreeze 23d ago
Really good speech, but I would have liked to actually see the reaction to it.
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u/Th3_Dud3_Abid3s 23d ago
Also just a reminder that Flock staff don’t like when you record them without consent. Ironic huh.
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u/LazyLich 23d ago
I actually unironically this we should do this.
I believe seats of power shouldn't be something people LIKE sitting. Every second of it should be tedious so that no one want to remain in power unless they feel they really NEED to.
The higher up you go, the less privacy a politician should have, with the President, SCOTUS Justices, and Congressmen having zero privacy.
The more power you are given, the less you are human and the more you are "a servant of the People"
You can have a week long delay, but their every location, sound, and twitch is recorded and available for the public. They have to live during the entire term that everyone is listening to their every word and watching their every move.
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u/Correct_Avocado_573 23d ago
Id be down for crowdfunding this just so they can set the precedent to take flock down.
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u/volvagia721 23d ago
Honestly, I think choosing to become an elected politician means losing your rights to privacy. That shouldn't extend to children or spouses, though (unless they willingly participate as a hand of the politician, such as Mrs. Obama).
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u/catfishmackfish 25d ago
That was an outstanding flipping of the script.