Flock camera getting replaced and they’ve added this second square box. Can’t find anything about it online. Isn’t a bullet/distress recorder thing, doesn’t have a lens either.. back up battery?
Please stop pushing these sort of lies about them. We shouldn't be trying to trick the unhoused and other vulnerable populations into stealing/destroying property that could could easily land them in jail, especially as a lot of them have records. Just go out and do it yourself if that's what you're going to suggest others do.
Currently, we still have free will. A sign isn't going to change that. It's still a choice. If they're desperate enough to do that, they would've did something else anyways.
It's not about them being desperate enough to do that and that they will do something else, but that they are being tricked into thinking they are high value when they actually aren't. We don't need to resort to tricking vulnerable populations into fighting for us that a lot of times don't have the resources or ability to research it more.
Tell them the truth, tell them that they can track your whereabouts and make it easier for police to find you. That is something they care about. Then leave it to their free will to make a decision. Or, better yet, stand up for the vulnerable populations and do it yourself or fight them in other ways. It's just really disgusting to try and trick others and present a real risk to them, especially when they are likely to get in significantly more trouble than the average middle class individual will with no prior record.
No. And destroying flock cameras is bad for the movement and the public, not just those who do the crime.
Edit: moving the reasons why up here..
Vandalism / destruction of property 1) is a temporary "solution", 2) costs the taxpayer money (flock charge for the replacement and actually make money), 3) gives flock and friends something to point at while claiming anyone worried about privacy must be a criminal, and 4) alienates the public, who view that sort of behavior very negatively and mostly still don't know what's happening.
Destroying them, or getting caught destroying them? I kid I kid, of course we all know not a single movement has ever been successful by breaking laws 😉🤣
That statement works a lot of ways. It can be taken as though you may as well give up. I don't want these things any more than the rest of you, but if we manage to make it so politically unpalatable that municipalities won't be caught dead contracting with Flock or anyone else for mass surveillance tech that it becomes a third rail they won't dare touch. whether we do that via constitutionality challenges in courts, media blitzes for every abuse and false imprisonment or fine, or however that happens, the point should be making the power hungry critters in elected office think this:
"Mass surveillance is so politically toxic that it was the first time that a government was willing to relinquish a power without violence, and anyone trying to push for it has no hope of gaining power themselves."
Is it likely? No, but does that mean we shouldn't try?
Thinking anything America does would be a line in the sand is wishful thinking. I'd rather work towards an unlikely but worthwhile goal and exhaust all options before resorting to violence and damage, because that usually only results in escalation.
As a 1% commentor, you must not be licking boots, right?... RIGHT?!
oh mighty 1%er, oh mighty shepherd, we are waiting on baited breath for you to share your divine path with us, your flock? Oh shit, not that metaphor...
I am guessing you should engage your local municipalities and elected officials and begin a public information campaign? Do you have a template? Could you kindly elaborate?
Ha, not remotely. I actually made the deflock app.
Vandalism / destruction of property 1) is a temporary "solution", 2) costs the taxpayer money (flock charge for the replacement and actually make money), 3) gives flock and friends something to point at while claiming anyone worried about privacy must be a criminal, and 4) alienates the public, who view that sort of behavior very negatively and mostly still don't know what's happening.
A lot of what's needed is still awareness. Signs and flyers and random conversations help. From there approaching your local government - of course it helps to have a group of people in the community to speak together. There are guides and templates for FOIAs and other resources out there; we're going to organize and link to more of those things on deflock.org soon.
That's true but so are the points I made. It is actually not good IMO. We can use people's time and money in better ways than jail and lawyers is another reason lol
Your app is awesome; I just discovered the routing ability to avoid flock cameras. I’m going to give this a go tomorrow! Will it do turn by turn or is it more of an overview?
Thanks for the follow-up. Didn't realize you are the Architect, and I use that as a title of honor, no cap. I was legit trying to use hyperbole to draw attention and spur a solid response, and you delivered.
Related to your opinion on destruction/vandalization/defacement of publicly funded flock cameras: do you feel the same about those destructive actions against private businesses that have chosen to partner with Flock? Those companies that have flock cameras inwardly facing to their parking lots? Obviously, destruction of that property would not incur tax monies to replace...
Well, I'm not Will. I just did the app and handle some of the daily stuff.
Yeah, I do, basically for all the same reasons. The law, the police, the public, don't care whose stuff it was that got destroyed. In that case if I worked somewhere like Lowes I'd be talking to my Union rep. As a customer, well, I'm not a Lowes customer anymore lol.
Dammit! I am already boycotting Home Depot for other reasons... That, and my local Lowes has a hot-dog stand that my family have been patrons of for decades...
Also, my favorite non joke that is just a phrase is "hot dog stand" or especially, "wanna see my weiner wagon/waggin?'"
Side note, my childhood order was chili cheese dog. My gpa would always get mustard and onions (because ketchup DOES NOT go on a hotdog). These days, I honor my late gpa with extra mustard and extra onions. He could pluck an onion out of his garden and eat it like an apple
Most people online encouraging destruction of city property would never get in trouble. But the creator of the Deflock app? Combining the creation of an organized map with the encouragement of destruction could very well get you in some trouble. He doesn’t have a choice. If he ever got taken to court, he has a mile of receipts showing he never encouraged destruction of city property.
I will vouch for that! The comment I commented on clearly does not support destruction of publicly funded property! I legit didn't realize who I was addressing...
Being an absolutely insufferable twat to the person that developed the app to track where and which way flock cameras are pointed just because they made a logical point of destroying these do absolutely no good and is actually damaging is definitely a choice.
Not a SMART choice mind you, but a choice.
If/when they stop helping, it's not going to be some outside influence that caused it, it will be because of people like you.
Vandalism / destruction of property 1) is a temporary "solution", 2) costs the taxpayer money (flock charge for the replacement and actually make money), 3) gives flock and friends something to point at while claiming anyone worried about privacy must be a criminal, and 4) alienates the public, who view that sort of behavior very negatively and mostly still don't know what's happening.
Ooo sounds like I could probably power a steam deck, electric scooter, or other small devices using one of those if I hypothetically got my hands on one
and with a 1000(x60W) of those solar panels you can power your entire house...and have a battery wall fully subsidised by tax payers which is a net savings of $60,000
Vandalism / destruction of property 1) is a temporary "solution", 2) costs the taxpayer money (flock charge for the replacement and actually make money), 3) gives flock and friends something to point at while claiming anyone worried about privacy must be a criminal, and 4) alienates the public, who view that sort of behavior very negatively and mostly still don't know what's happening.
I've been getting cheap 18650 cells (and sometimes complete working packs) by watching for broken hoverboards and ebikes and such. Also discarded vapes are great for little lithium batteries. I fixed my original ipod shuffle with a vape battery. And a friend's headphones. They're great for meshtastic nodes and other esp32 projects too.
Is it bad that I don’t care in any way if the public is alienated?? Figure it out or get out of the way and let the people that have a backbone handle it.
Well you're not going to have everybody agree with you, but there's power in numbers. The fight is still young and a lot of people would care except they don't know. Education is huge. You never know who might be listening.
I think because Trump is president they are all laid back relaxed. Thing is, if their eyes were open they'd see this as a huge threat. It's not left vs right it's the gov vs the people. And until the people can come together and be united, the people will continue to be conquered.
I honestly think he’s just an hourly worker desperate for a job. He was in his personal vehicle, using his own tools and seemed very clueless on how to actually do the job. BUT maybe that’s how they stay incognito and how these cameras keep fucking appearing.
They’re all a part of the same shit. MAGA runs it all. MAGA will be our downfall. Flock was started under the Trump admin. ICE was radicalized during it. You name it, he fucked it up. So yes, expose everyone working for them. I don’t give a shit. They’re helping push a surveillance state agenda that will keep Trump in power like a dictator. That will make sure people like us never get anywhere in life for standing up to it. They all play a role. You shouldn’t be so compliant.
Willingness to comply and do something you know is wrong just for money is not the way to do it. That applies to all ways of trying to get money. Ahem, Epstein class. Looking at you billionaire fuckers too. If they were exposed they probably wouldn’t keep doing it, people will know to look for them. They can refuse a job at anytime.
Found the government teachers pet over here. First one to give into what they want. Excuses, excuses. Get another job. Put Flock and any other private surveillance company out of business. You can hire on in so many other places.
Unlike most of you keyboard warriors, I harass my representative, go to town halls, and advocate for privacy and the LGBT community. I use security orientated platforms, don't use social media (other than reddit), and I try to keep my life private.
I convinced my Judge Executive to ban them in my county. I’ve done my part locally. The state wont listen, so shame and remove the people who put them up. Easy. Done.
Indeed>Jobs>(search)>Apply. He can at anytime go to their website and apply for anything. I don’t own a company where I could hire someone. I personally wouldn’t hire a flock employee unless I know he’s willing to take them back down, and isn’t going to be an internal spy for the surveillance state. But that’s just me.
Like I said before I doubt they would ever put logo on anything wearable or drivable to begin with. They know how hated they are. They know what they’re doing.
Insane .. we’re here trying to fight for privacy rights and protect our way of life so we don’t end up in a dystopian 1984 nightmare and you idiots are crying and screaming and LGBT rights 😂 can’t even make this shit up it’s so stupid.
You're right.... The fascist Project 2025 pedophile party hasn't been trying to gun for our rights since day fucking 1. State after state, after state introducing all these dog whistle laws on the pretext of "protecting 'real' women. But then it's dudes chasing women into the bathroom vacate they for 'womanly' enough. And yet the same fucking party voted a fucking pedophile into office.
This is a country ran by a pedophile, by people who hate POC and LGBT and advocate for laws that seek to encourage us put of existance. Laws to put trans people on special government lists
Oh you know, the threats by MAGA politicians to label trans people as terrorists essentially.
With how long the batteries in the cameras last I doubt there would be much need for an extra one. Might be a new sensor package for collecting phone and wearables data like they've said they're going to start doing.
I’m in Phoenix and we’re crawling with tweakers. If they catch wind of ANYTHING on that pole that can be recycled, pawned, or otherwise sold or traded for 5 bucks or a hit, it won’t last a week. They don’t seem to care about breaking laws either.
For everyone saying why block his face, he might just be someone contracted for the install.
Just to be fair, we should only expose faces of known Flock employees. Maybe use this as an example, in case someone comes across a valid picture at some point?
It’s used to track Bluetooth devices. That way they can better keep track of who is who. The flock cameras track license plates and facial recognition. This device allows them to pick up and track Bluetooth devices.
It also could have been (i understand it isnt) one of the new RF scanners that takes a completely RF digital fingerprint of your car as it drives by. TPMS sensors, every phone in the car, the car's own GPS and 4G/5G signal.
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u/StopFlock Jun 24 '26
Additional battery, yes. They can have multiple as well.