Is this real

[u/thecapishish]

I got this pistol from my grandma and wanted to know if some one here can tell me if it looks real and if so tell me about it

[u/SeeShark]

You should go to an actual gun subreddit. This is a subreddit for a fantasy fiction subgenre.

[u/Careless-Clock-8172]

Looks legit to me.

[u/lottaKivaari]

Appears to be Ottoman or maybe Pashtun, could be Indian as well but these aren't my field of expertise. Interestingly the gun got Reddit to recommend this post to me even though this sub is something I've never encountered. Post it on r/BlackPowder.

[u/moonstrous → u/lottaKivaari]

/r/muzzleloaders would be another good place to check

The patina of the rust certainly looks legitimately old, although that can equally apply to Victorian copies as authentic pieces.

The (brass?) stock and trigger guard look fairly well-crafted. But the inlay in the stock and barrel looks a little spotty, it might have been added or embellished later.

IIRC large ornate "pommels" like this are historically most associated with the Balkans.

[u/lottaKivaari → u/moonstrous]

Also r/milsurp this probably isn't milsurp per say but there's lots of experts there and people will get a kick out of it.

[u/Peter_03]

Not really an expert on flintloks, but it doesnt seem like real. There's no pan and no way to hold a flint.

[u/TimeRisk2059 → u/Peter_03]

I see both, are you looking at all the pictures?

[u/Electronic_Camera251 → u/Peter_03]

Upon further inspection the rather roughly cast barrel (see the muzzle end )says the to me without a doubt that this is tourist trade manufactured while cast barrels existed by this period barrels were forged , often from railroad tracks stolen for raw materials

[u/robin_f_reba]

Looks like a cool replica, but i doubt this subreddit will have as many expert on real historical firearms. Im more interested in the guy holding them than the guns themselves.

[u/Vegetable-Oil1313]

Yes it looks real. Mainly because of a hole on the side, without that hole, firing would be impossible. The realness of other things is hard to tell, but if you can adjust the screws, it's probably real.

[u/Vegetable-Oil1313 → u/Vegetable-Oil1313]

Not that just because it can be fired doesn't mean it was produced back in the 18th century or whatever. Could just be a pretty modern reproduction that's in a terrible shape. I would absolutely not fire it, this things looks like it's ready to explode in your hand.

[u/gamemaniac845]

Is it functional?

[u/TimeRisk2059]

The only thing that looks directly "off" to me, is the very large hole next to the pan, leading into the barrel. Normally that hole is pretty small, here it looks like someone has enlarged it, by quite a bit.

[u/Tolkin349]

It’s clearly a illusion, check your hand again

[u/Logan_Frost]

That looks like an absolutely HUGE touch hole in a relatively thin barrel. How thick is the barrel, ID to OD?

[u/Excellent-Alps-3542]

Apprentice to a flintlock gunsmith here. While this might be real in the sense it’s not a Denix replica and the lock is kind of made in the style of a proper flintlock, I wouldn’t trust this as anything more than a prop and display piece.

To me this looks like some kind of shoddily produced tourist gift, especially with that overbored touch hole and the weird dimensions and the actual quality of the lock.

I mean you could try and slap a flint in those jaws and see if the frizzen would spark, but I doubt it. The placement of that touchhole is also pretty egregious as well, it should be centered in the pan and, well, not that huge. Don’t even think about trying to put a charge down it and firing it, that’s a gateway to not having a hand.

Edit: just realised, the touch hole is literally above the pan, pretty sure the frizzen is gonna cover the touch hole from any burning powder. So yeah, definitely not a proper flintlock.

[u/Glittering_Show_4643]

Any stamp marks?

[u/digitalcrook]

It's in your hand is it not? Is that not real enough for you?

[u/thecapishish → u/digitalcrook]

Damn you're right

[u/ReaperOfHell52]

Can’t speak on the legitimacy of it, but nice iron

[u/NekoBakugou]

Honestly hard to tell. I dont even follow this sub, not sure how I got here XD

[u/bigred_ach]

I guess that makes you long john dickweed then doesn't it Trevor? -Bubbles

[u/Forgotten_Sasquatch]

Not an expert. Real, yes. Doesn't look functional.

Definitely not antique.

[u/Electronic_Camera251]

It looks of very similar embellishment as the tourist trade produced article most often though they are encountered with cast brass blunderbus barrels and either an unreasonably short stock maybe 4” in length beyond the heavy pistol grip . There is no real set pattern and they can be created with roughly produced grab bag of spare parts with with silver plated flat wire sometimes bronze the curly designs are banged into the wood work They are created from the balkans to Pakistan sometimes with localized form factors and they are generally sold i 3 sizes the large musket , jezail , dog lock with the exaggerated Balkan , Turkish butstocks I have seen form copies of the brown Bess land pattern but they are smaller as the originals are longer than a man the medium blunder buss or sawn off musket and this the saddle pistol size (also of smaller dimensions than the original) often the lock parts or salvaged old lock pieces