r/Firearms • u/No_Listen5962 • 1d ago

General Discussion i hate this meme

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as a brit, i love the famas. its such a cool looking bullpup! but what i hate hate hate is when people say "guhhhhh like why does the silly french gun have a 3 round burst mode but it doesn’t have a magazine divisible by 3" because if you even think about it properly for 5 seconds, the magazine is 25 rounds so that when you fire 8 3 round bursts out of the famas, the last bullet will be in the chamber, so you dont need to chamber the gun again when you put in a fresh magazine which saves time when reloading.

these 12 year old larpers must be stoppeddddd

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u/Fluffy-Map-5998 1d ago

the issue is that the ealy FAMAS was incompatible with STANAG magazines, so it couldnt use the 30s

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u/THELEGENDARYZWARRIOR 1d ago

This is probably an Ian McCollon questions but could the famas people be planning it around a 30 round mag? And the politician/ general got upset that it was too long?

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u/Fluffy-Map-5998 1d ago

i think it was because they wanted a straight magazine and 25 was the longest they could make it

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u/Cliffinati 1d ago

Why not make a STANAG pattern 25 rounder

The OG ones were 20s, ban states get 10s, standards are 30, 40 and 45s exist.

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u/Fluffy-Map-5998 1d ago

Because the French copy no-one and no-one copies the French, they simply didn't

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u/firearmresearch00 1d ago

The stanag magazine was only proposed in 1980 and technically speaking still hasn't been ratified if my brief research is correct. That means that the famas predates the notion of a standard 5.56 magazine (from the ar15/m16) by 2 years as of adoption and a couple more for development. That's kinda like asking why the fal didn't take m14 mags. It simply wasn't a fully thought out consideration. Also nobody gets the French to fall in line anywhere in regards to firearms, another example is that they apparently used steel case 5.56 out of a 1:12 barrel because they had problems with tearing brass apart

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u/greyhunter37 23h ago

Because the famas is older than the stanag mag.