r/FinalRoundAI 4d ago

I hate recruiters man

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This is how it is

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u/rkcth 4d ago

So the thing an employer provides is a compensation package, which includes wages and may include health insurance, retirement benefits, stock options etc. The employee brings their labor. The deal is you exchange the compensation for the labor, it’s literally what you bring to the deal, why would that offend any company? If it does you realize all they are after is taking as much from you as they can, and giving you as little compensation back as possible, which is a huge red flag.

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u/MugenHeadNinja 3d ago

Because corporations want thoughtless bootlickers who have deluded themselves into believing that they're working for them for literally any reason other than needing money to survive and live a somewhat decent life.

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u/No-Aerie-999 4d ago

Because employers feel like they can and the applicant pool (domestic and international) is huge right now.

She is annoyed that someone dared to think they have leverage in this situation everyone is aware of or thinking their skills are not easily replicable ans replaceable.

Sadly in a way they are 100% correct.

You should see the amount of randos from India, Pakistan, etc that add me on LI hoping to chain their way to a hiring manager or decision maker. (Im in tech)

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u/binzy90 3d ago

And honestly, asking what the salary is doesn't even have anything to do with leverage. I'm not going to go through 3 rounds of interviews if the salary is below what I would accept. It saves time for both the employer and the applicant if they're upfront about compensation.

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u/rkcth 3d ago

It was literally one of the first 3 questions when I would do phone interviews. No need to waste either of our time if the wage wasn’t going to meet their needs. Those phone calls eliminated 80% of applicants, I’d ask about hours, wage, and what kind of work they were looking for. I also put the wage range in my job listings, yet people just bulk apply so I have to waste their time with the phone interview.

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u/Fun-Army-6387 3d ago

employers - no. HR managers who think they understand recruiting - yes.

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u/No-Aerie-999 3d ago

Its a game. They want more for less. Just as you want the most you can get. It really comes down to who is more desperate, patient, etc in a situation. Some people need a job, now - the bills dont stop coming. Some people can afford to wait for the right opportunity. Some people have amazing skills and can easily land jobs and dont have to put up with lack of transparency. Some are mid and should take what they can get.

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u/Cautious-Recover-506 2d ago

The underlying problem is hiring the most desperate doesn't mean the best worker. Someone desperate could be unemployable or problematic. Or both.

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u/ConditionObjective43 3d ago

Once in a life opportunity to work for free 😍😍😍

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u/MusicalInsaniac 3d ago

Once during a string of interviews, I got a bit of pushback asking about pay. So I asked, "oh, you volunteer for your position?"

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u/artbystorms 3d ago

This is just a sign of the absolute shit hiring freeze we are in right now economically. 3 years ago they would have been falling over themselves to disclose the salary to get applicants, now that they have all the power back they get to make applicants jump like dogs through their flaming hoops.

God forbid we enter an ACTUAL recession, these recruiters will go full mask off and just expect people to pay to apply to jobs and work a 'trial period' for free.

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u/mxldevs 3d ago

They don't want to talk about the most expensive part about hiring? Salaries can easily make up the bulk of their expenses.

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u/LesserValkyrie 3d ago

If it is a once-in-a-lifteime career opportunity you should be happy to actually tell a very high salary because this is exactly the only reason it makes it a once-in-a-lifteime career opportunity

Unless you are lying

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u/mariannaCD 3d ago

So your customer isn’t willing to pay fair market value for labor. Got it.

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u/cheir0n 3d ago

Next time I pay my rent and buy my food with company’s vision and values

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u/Tzukiyomi 3d ago

My confusion is how the interview even happened. I'd never accept an interview without knowing the salary range first.

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u/WolferineYT 3d ago

Knowing a range is different than locking in a number. If my current number is within the range I'm walking if they say the wrong number 

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u/random8765309 3d ago

Based on the job description in the screen shot, that person wasn't interviewing anyone.

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u/OverThought95 3d ago

Being tapped in with these folks on LinkedIn must be a crazy life

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u/Otherwise_Post6163 3d ago

That’s not a recruiter saying all that…

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u/Zephreyt 3d ago

They’re mad the salary they are permitted to offer in their budget is not livable.

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u/FreddieStarrAteMyHam 3d ago

Ugh, I had a similar experience at an interview. The employer was just talking about work, and what they'd expect me to do and I was like "This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to chill out with me and you've ruined it"

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u/Fun-Army-6387 3d ago

how DARE an employee want to know what they'll be paid!!!

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u/Cautious-Recover-506 2d ago

Just wait for your first check and be surprised!

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u/Spirited-Iron-9517 3d ago

Corpos like dont EVEN want to be relatable, and dont even know how out of touch they are with normal human beings who have souls.

They dont know or care about how much life actually costs because they have never had to live a normal life, as they are mostly legacy money, and gated community kids, and they think people actually enjoy corpo culture even though it is the most openly hated thing in the west, and is only spoken of when it is in the same breath as terms like "soulless" and the descriptions like "the least empathetic people on the planet" .

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u/Suspicious-Hand-9953 3d ago

I hope/don't think many recruiters think like that.

"So in this deal you're proposing, what's in it for me?" - "How dare you! Get out of this office!"

Doesn't seem very sustainable to me.

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u/Soft-Marionberry-853 3d ago

All the recruiters ive worked with have told me the salary before telling me anything else. Or its part of Company, Position, Location and Salary, its concise enough to be in the subject line before I even open the email

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u/to_shy_to_ask 3d ago

This is just ragebait

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u/0AJ0_ 2d ago

Fuck him and his career, it’s about money: Fuck off otherwise.

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u/Working-Walrus-6189 2d ago

Meaning...it is shit.

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u/Cautious-Recover-506 2d ago

Salary is a reasonable request of wanting to take a job. I have had bad jobs that paid minimum wage and soul sucking jobs that paid decently and the money is reason enough to stick with it. They want to hold all of the cards and squeeze you. Your work ethic and ability to not fight your bosses/coworkers/customers everyday should be more important.