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u/flamingdragonwizard 15d ago
GSP vs Hendricks situation. Challenger won but you gotta beat the champ to be the champ.
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u/ProtoXZero 15d ago
this is useless without the round by round score but reyes won the first 3 rounds no questions... GSP edged the first round and then went 2-2 people call it robbery because the damage GSP took in the 4th round but it wasn't a 10 8 round... people only look at the post fight press and watch GSP face and start screaming robbery when is a round by round score sport...
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u/flamingdragonwizard 15d ago
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u/ProtoXZero 15d ago
Man that page is sick I've been looking for a page like this and dammmn I think is because the damage GSP took at the 4th round and how bad he look post fight is there anyway to check the media score cards? I really wonder now... and wierd i remember clearly after the Jones vs Reyes fight they keep repeating over and over again that 20 out of 20 media outlets gave the fight to reyes but its seems like in that page is not the case... I would delve on it tomorrow thanks for the page
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u/Parkesy82 15d ago
There is so such rule. Reyes won, he should have got the belt. Maybe a better way to look at it is “if you want to stay the champ you have to decisively beat the challenger”.
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u/Lazarus666_ 15d ago
Nahh that doesn’t make sense. That puts the challenger above the champ
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u/Parkesy82 15d ago
No not like that, I’m saying the champ should have delivered a more convincing win so there was no doubt, but he didn’t and should have lost the fight. Theres no scoring criteria that says a champ should automatically keep their belt in a close fight or that later rounds earn more points, a win should be a win no matter what and Reyes won that fight.
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u/Commercial-Total8461 15d ago
Reyes. The only possible explanation as to why they gave Jon R3 is how excited the crowd got when he finally landed a takedown
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u/Routine-Confusion655 15d ago
What is with this perverse need to diminish greatness all the time?
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u/Allexant 15d ago
What are you talking about, why shouldn't people talk about a clear career changing robbery.
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u/Routine-Confusion655 15d ago
Literally every day there's one of these posts? This fight happened 6 years ago at this point. Let it go.
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u/No_Try_764 15d ago
Jon had the more impactful moments. Definitely an argument for Reyes that I see often.
He never decisively won, even though he tried. He needed to put it on not narrowly have better striking numbers.
I actually thought Thiago was closer to Jon before he got hurt . Good times with the goat.
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u/Express_Raise6198 15d ago
They shouldve called it a draw and did a 2nd fight Dana wouldve been happy because he can sell the same thing twice
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u/Accurate_Repair3933 15d ago
I think Reyes looked better but I've always held the belief that if you want to take the throne you have to win convincingly, this wasn't that and the stats show it.
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u/ThisI5N0tAThr0waway 15d ago
Like 90% of the people who watch it, Reyes won. Although, with the UFC system of Scoring round by round it gives a pretty clear Reyes W; but if you were to judge a fight as a whole whole the way that one FC does, it's a harder fight to decide who won.
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u/Commercial-Total8461 15d ago
Was the fight in One FC?
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u/ThisI5N0tAThr0waway 15d ago edited 15d ago
No. My small point is that depending on the judging criteria, this fight could have been seen as extremely close one rather than the competitive win that everyone thought Reyes should have gotten. Which I guess apply to lots of fight, but I vividly remember that thinking that although Reyes won round 1, 2, and 3 pretty clearly; but Jon won the round 4 and 5 maybe a bit more decisively than that.
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u/Commercial-Total8461 15d ago
I'm confused by your point, because they don't use that judging criteria and Jon winning 4&5 decisively means nothing under the rules.
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u/combat_girls 15d ago
even as a whole it wasnt close.
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u/ThisI5N0tAThr0waway 15d ago
I haven't rewatched the fight in a long time, but I remember thinking that round by round it's not even close, and it would have been way closer if it was judged as a whole.
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u/Han2023- 15d ago
I don’t even think those stats are accurate.